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Any “sold a pup” experiences?

  • 10-10-2020 8:32pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭


    The farm sayings thread got me thinking about the above. Most of my farm dealings have been positive experiences but lots of tyre kickers too! Have you any stories of buying something that didn’t live up to expectations?


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    Mossie1975 wrote: »
    The farm sayings thread got me thinking about the above. Most of my farm dealings have been positive experiences but lots of tyre kickers too! Have you any stories of buying something that didn’t live up to expectations?

    Bought a horse as a disabled rider . The seller was a front for a dealer and was chronically lame . Had been abused in its past so terrified of men too . Had to destroy it within 6 months .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Mossie1975 wrote: »
    The farm sayings thread got me thinking about the above. Most of my farm dealings have been positive experiences but lots of tyre kickers too! Have you any stories of buying something that didn’t live up to expectations?

    Not a pup as such but I bought two ducks at the 15th of August fair in Kenmare a few years ago to add to my menagerie.

    Opened the transport cage to leave them out in the run and they both took off like they were fired out of a catapult over the hill and never to be seen again.

    I told my Dad about it afterwards and he reckoned they could have been heavily disguised homing pigeons.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    Bought a ram, ram got sick within 6 days, pneumonia. Rang breeder who had said he'd been vaccinated. Come back and I'll loan you 2 ram lambs as cover. Ok. Lamb 1 pneumonia within 10 days. Lamb 2 went so lame he couldn't walk. Rang breeder, bring them back, I loan you two more. Next two, lamb 1 pneumonia within a week very nearly died. Lamb 2 get's meningitis and does die, after I spend hundreds on him with vet at breeders request. Out of all five they tipped **** all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,215 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    My dad bought a ram at a fair years ago. It died the next day. At the next fair he went to the seller and said your ram died. The seller said , sorry son your ram died.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,123 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Bought a handle for my small grinder on e-bay for €1.50. Opened the box and it was in bits. You'd think coming from China, the quality would have been better. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Bought a handle for my small grinder on e-bay for €1.50. Opened the box and it was in bits. You'd think coming from China, the quality would have been better. :D

    Any sign of the virus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Bought a handle for my small grinder on e-bay for €1.50. Opened the box and it was in bits. You'd think coming from China, the quality would have been better. :D

    Jesus patsy, a small grinder is thinner than a pint glass why would you need a handle?

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,123 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Jesus patsy, a small grinder is thinner than a pint glass why would you need a handle?

    Safety. Ended up using a long M10 bolt instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Bought a bull a few years back off a large breeder, was given every guarantee under the sun when buying him. Had him home a few days and spotted a very large wart on the tip of his rod, rang the breeder and he pretty much told me to f off for myself. I gave the vets 200e to remove it and he bulled 2 cows after and then he broke his rod. I made sure he didn't sell any bull around here after. A miserable fcuker that I'll never forget for it. I was only a young lad starting out at the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,810 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    The parents used buy loads of crap sold door to door; home alarm that broke after a year, insurance, fire extinguishers...all the bucks that sold those wouldn't be seen for dust afterwards... not to mention ****ty farm gates.

    Never entertain anything offered door to door, it's rarely anything good.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,215 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    The parents used buy loads of crap sold door to door; home alarm that broke after a year, insurance, fire extinguishers...all the bucks that sold those wouldn't be seen for dust afterwards... not to mention ****ty farm gates.

    Never entertain anything offered door to door, it's rarely anything good.

    That's the good thing about covid, none of these salespeople calling around. Although I did have one lad called at milking time last week. Are you supposed to drop everything to talk to them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,215 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Bought a bull a few years back off a large breeder, was given every guarantee under the sun when buying him. Had him home a few days and spotted a very large wart on the tip of his rod, rang the breeder and he pretty much told me to f off for myself. I gave the vets 200e to remove it and he bulled 2 cows after and then he broke his rod. I made sure he didn't sell any bull around here after. A miserable fcuker that I'll never forget for it. I was only a young lad starting out at the time.

    I bought 10 calved heifers, lost most of them to ragwort poisoning. When I went back to the seller, who was my cousin, he said not my problem. Went to court, I won. Was at too much of a loss to let it go as I'd culled cows when I bought these in so was down alot. Same as you when I was buying them, they were the best thing since sliced bread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    Bought a Vauxhall cavalier back in the day think it was early 90s turbo diesel, looked lovely drive lovely but was some heap of ****te, car was badly smashed before I bought it, stuck back together badly and was a death trap, I had to scrap it sold the engine out of it ,At least the NCT put a lot of these death traps off the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭endainoz


    whelan2 wrote: »
    I bought 10 calved heifers, lost most of them to ragwort poisoning. When I went back to the seller, who was my cousin, he said not my problem. Went to court, I won. Was at too much of a loss to let it go as I'd culled cows when I bought these in so was down alot. Same as you when I was buying them, they were the best thing since sliced bread.

    That's a strange one, did they not know to avoid the ragwort or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,215 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    endainoz wrote: »
    That's a strange one, did they not know to avoid the ragwort or what?

    They were put into a field that had been sprayed and wasn't left long enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    My first car. A Renault “megavan”
    Nothing mega about it at all.
    Rims were made of cheese and would buckle at the sight of a pothole.
    To make things worse the wheel nuts would weld themselves to the rim so you couldn’t change the inevitable flats. Called out a lad to help me and he broke a good Teng ratchet trying to get one but off.

    Turbo went twice and clutch died on the motorway.

    All in the space of a year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭Grueller


    My father in law sold me a pup!!!!!!
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    Turned out to be the best sheepdog we ever had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,018 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Guy I bought a bull off got a fancy replacement beforehand that lasted all of 20 mins. He took a heart attack coming off the trailer and out into the field. Incredible. I felt so sorry I gave him an extra €500 (got ya!) but that did happen the bull.
    The best replacement failed away to nothing when he put him with cows. He reckons previous owner pumped him with eggs and all sorts so when he was on a grass diet he didn’t cope. Had to get rid again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Bought a horse as a disabled rider . The seller was a front for a dealer and was chronically lame . Had been abused in its past so terrified of men too . Had to destroy it within 6 months .

    Sorry to hear that.

    Have to ask - did you get a full vetting done by a horse vet?

    Absolutely necessary when buying a horse. That and bring along someone who knows what to look out for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭MfMan


    https://culchiecomps.com/

    As per seen in IFJ - a scam presumably?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭Belongamick


    Bought a cow who was due her third calf off a well known farmer in the area. My family had a bit of hard luck with cows and this seemed ideal - owner even agreed to keep cow until she calved.
    Cow arrived with calf and all was well for a couple of days until she was clearly unwell. Vet called - milk fever. Could not save her in the end - approached seller who did not want to know. Calf made a very good animal but it was tough to take the attitude of the seller.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    Bought a cow who was due her third calf off a well known farmer in the area. My family had a bit of hard luck with cows and this seemed ideal - owner even agreed to keep cow until she calved.
    Cow arrived with calf and all was well for a couple of days until she was clearly unwell. Vet called - milk fever. Could not save her in the end - approached seller who did not want to know. Calf made a very good animal but it was tough to take the attitude of the seller.
    That was just more bad luck really, seller not at any fault in this instance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,215 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Cows don't normally die of milk fever,do they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,123 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Bought a cow who was due her third calf off a well known farmer in the area. My family had a bit of hard luck with cows and this seemed ideal - owner even agreed to keep cow until she calved.
    Cow arrived with calf and all was well for a couple of days until she was clearly unwell. Vet called - milk fever. Could not save her in the end - approached seller who did not want to know. Calf made a very good animal but it was tough to take the attitude of the seller.

    Fair is fair. Cow getting milk fever had nothing to do with the seller. Just your bad luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭cjpm


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Cows don't normally die of milk fever,do they?


    they would if they weren't treated in time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Jd310


    MfMan wrote: »
    https://culchiecomps.com/

    As per seen in IFJ - a scam presumably?

    No don't think so they've been about a right while at this stage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Only ever witnessed one case of milk fever, cow laying prone on ground. Rang the Vet who said to get calcium from a nearby dairy farmer and inject it under her skin until he arrived. Vet administered calcium Intravenously - in no length of time she came to, got up and walked away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Bought a ram that turned out to be gay. He rode the hole of the older ram but no interest in the girls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭older by the day


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Cows don't normally die of milk fever,do they?

    It keeps the knackerys going at least six months of the year. I think a lot of vets use the disease when they don't know what killed the animal


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    A long story as short as I can make it :)

    I bought my first pbr heifer many years ago at the tender age of 19. She was 18 months old and was going to be the foundation of my new pbr herd. When I went to look at her she was in a well bedded shed and the seller and I went into the shed to have a look at her. She was a nice quite heifer and the seller walked up to her, put a halter on her and tied her to a gate. She had great length, deep in the rib and a good end although her tail was set a bit high but I allowed her that. Anyway I bought her, loaded her on the trailer and headed home. Unloaded her into a pen in the shed when I got home later that night that I had made especially for her so that the other cattle wouldn't annoy her. I gave her a few nuts in a bucket and few forks of hay. Early the following morning I went to admire my new purchase and she ran to the far side of the pen, no worries I said to myself she is just nervous cause she is in a new place. I rattled a bucket of nuts but she wouldn't come near me so I left them in the corner and headed to work. Later that evening when I got home from work I walked to the gate with a bucket nuts and she came full force at me. In my innocence/stupidity I thought she was still upset with the move to a new place. I leaned over the gate to drop in the bucket of nuts and she hit the bucket with her head before it touched the ground.

    I phoned a friend who was a local livestock farmer to ask his advice. He came to have a look at her and as he was walking up to the gate to look at her she hit the gate a full force. He recommended that I phone the seller, return her and get my money back. I phoned the seller when I got back to the house (no mobile phones in those days) but no answer. I phoned him the following day several times from work and he eventually answered. I told him what happened and he said that he never had a problem with her and she was quiet when he showed her to me. He reminded me that he put a halter on her when I looked at her and basically it wasn't his problem. My friend suggested that I should get my Vet to have a look at her. I phoned my Vet the following day, told him the story and within seconds he said that she was probably injected with Rompum or a simular drug by the seller but he would examine her in the crush to rule out any anatomical problems.

    I had to get my brothers to help me get her into the crush cause she tried to jump/plough through every gate. The Vet gave her the all clear but he said that there wasn't any option to have blood analysis done for livestock although it was available for bloodstock at that time.

    TBH I was distraught after paying IR£1750 of hard earned money for her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Bought a ram that turned out to be gay. He rode the hole of the older ram but no interest in the girls.

    I've known a few roosters who thought they were hens ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,215 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    It keeps the knackerys going at least six months of the year. I think a lot of vets use the disease when they don't know what killed the animal

    Are you thinking of tetany?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    Base price wrote: »
    A long story as short as I can make it :)

    I bought my first pbr heifer many years ago at the tender age of 19. She was 18 months old and was going to be the foundation of my new pbr herd. When I went to look at her she was in a well bedded shed and the seller and I went into the shed to have a look at her. She was a nice quite heifer and the seller walked up to her, put a halter on her and tied her to a gate. She had great length, deep in the rib and a good end although her tail was set a bit high but I allowed her that. Anyway I bought her, loaded her on the trailer and headed home. Unloaded her into a pen in the shed when I got home later that night that I had made especially for her so that the other cattle wouldn't annoy her. I gave her a few nuts in a bucket and few forks of hay. Early the following morning I went to admire my new purchase and she ran to the far side of the pen, no worries I said to myself she is just nervous cause she is in a new place. I rattled a bucket of nuts but she wouldn't come near me so I left them in the corner and headed to work. Later that evening when I got home from work I walked to the gate with a bucket nuts and she came full force at me. In my innocence/stupidity I thought she was still upset with the move to a new place. I leaned over the gate to drop in the bucket of nuts and she hit the bucket with her head before it touched the ground.

    I phoned a friend who was a local livestock farmer to ask his advice. He came to have a look at her and as he was walking up to the gate to look at her she hit the gate a full force. He recommended that I phone the seller, return her and get my money back. I phoned the seller when I got back to the house (no mobile phones in those days) but no answer. I phoned him the following day several times from work and he eventually answered. I told him what happened and he said that he never had a problem with her and she was quiet when he showed her to me. He reminded me that he put a halter on her when I looked at her and basically it wasn't his problem. My friend suggested that I should get my Vet to have a look at her. I phoned my Vet the following day, told him the story and within seconds he said that she was probably injected with Rompum or a simular drug by the seller but he would examine her in the crush to rule out any anatomical problems.

    I had to get my brothers to help me get her into the crush cause she tried to jump/plough through every gate. The Vet gave her the all clear but he said that there wasn't any option to have blood analysis done for livestock although it was available for bloodstock at that time.

    TBH I was distraught after paying IR£1750 of hard earned money for her.
    What a terrible thing to do to a young lady starting out, A friend of mine was like yourself decided to get in to PB Suffolk sheep, jesus they nearly robbed him the only one that made money out of them was the vet. They all had big single lambs with a massive head and had to be cut out of them never again he said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭Grueller


    kerryjack wrote: »
    What a terrible thing to do to a young lad starting out, A friend of mine was like yourself decided to get in to PB Suffolk sheep, jesus they nearly robbed him the only one that made money out of them was the vet. They all had big single lambs with a massive head and had to be cut out of them never again he said.

    Base price is a lady.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    Grueller wrote: »
    Base price is a lady.

    Thanks edited post above and apologies for any offence caused to all parties.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    kerryjack wrote: »
    Thanks edited post above and apologies for any offence caused to all parties.

    The sex of base doesn't change the sentiment of your post. No offence caused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,215 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Base , how did it end up did you have to keep her?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,364 ✭✭✭arctictree


    A neighbour of mine bought 2 dozen ewe lambs off a lad. Come scanning time half of them turned out to be wethers! I know buyer beware and all that but seems like downright dishonesty to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Base , how did it end up did you have to keep her?
    Yes, I put her in with other cattle and she settled a bit after. She stopped charging at me but when you went into the field to herd she would get up (if lying down) and move away from the rest of the herd. Her calves were sharp too and I never registered any of them. She was a very expensive suckler cow but I learned a valuable lesson.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Aravo


    arctictree wrote: »
    A neighbour of mine bought 2 dozen ewe lambs off a lad. Come scanning time half of them turned out to be wethers! I know buyer beware and all that but seems like downright dishonesty to me.

    It's dishonest alright but the neighbours fault also.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭popa smurf


    Bought a caravan, a few bits that he didn't point out to me. I didn't know much about them at the time, cost 6k probably worth about 5k but maybe got off light from some of the story's I have heard about caravan dealers. OH got it in the head to buy one so I blame her when anything goes wrong with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Jd310 wrote: »
    No don't think so they've been about a right while at this stage

    So how do they make their money? A raffle in other words, with people subscribing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    I bought a MF 188 to draw silage, first load the bolts bolting the the PUH under the back axle pulled out, then the engine didn't warm up someone had taken the thermostat out, I put in a thermostat and when the engine warmed up, the oil pressure dropped, Hence my motto
    '' If you can't afford it new, you can't afford it at all''
    It was only for crop spraying and drawing silage, I worked it on for years as it was, after fixing the pick up hitch and throwing away the thermostat of course, It must've been years here after


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭keepalive213


    Around 2006 I bought an old petrol Seat Ibiza from a dodgy dealer near Finglas which promptly started to over heat.
    I thought id chance it to work as I had no other lift, from Ashbourne to Sandyford Ind Est, Beacon court.
    It made it there just going on fire as I neared the gate.
    I left it where it calved in the Industrial Estate, sold it as it was, an eastern european lad on the job bought it off me. He slept in it for a week or 2, emerging every morning for work.
    One Friday it was towed away and arrived back the following week with a newly fitted engine.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    arctictree wrote: »
    A neighbour of mine bought 2 dozen ewe lambs off a lad. Come scanning time half of them turned out to be wethers! I know buyer beware and all that but seems like downright dishonesty to me.

    Same thing happened to me at the mart in 2015. They were the first store lambs I bought.

    Auctioneer announced them as all ewe lambs and I didn't take that much notice until 2 months later when a cousin came over to help pick out a few for the butcher. He advised keeping a few and leaving them to the ram.

    Which ones do you want to keep, he said?

    Any of them, I said, they're all ewe lambs.

    Almost on cue, one started wee-ing from its belly!

    We checked and 10 out of 17 were wethers. It worked out though and the 7 ewe lambs we kept all went in lamb. That was our first year back farming after 14 years away. 4 of those 7 are still here.

    I still smile when I think of seeing the wee coming out of the ewe lamb's belly!

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Grueller wrote: »
    Base price is a lady.

    Ohhhh that's pushing it....
    female def
    Lady........eeeeehhhh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Ohhhh that's pushing it....
    female def
    Lady........eeeeehhhh
    I scrub up quite well :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,810 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Bought a ram that turned out to be gay. He rode the hole of the older ram but no interest in the girls.

    Offer him to the crowd that bought Benjy the bull.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Base price wrote: »
    I scrub up quite well :)

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭lefthooker


    Dodged a bullet a few weeks ago. I'd been looking for a jeep for about a month after the head went in my own. There was nothing good local so when a clean looking example appeared on a franchise dealers site we inquired. The money was right, just passed its DOE and with low mileage, only drawback was the location, 2 & 3/4 hours away. We asked the dealer for an in depth detailed review of the jeep and said if we were travelling that distance it'd be with the intention to bring it home so it better be 100%. We were assured it was so we hit the road

    When we landed the bodywork wasn't as good as described but acceptable for the age and more than adequate for a farm jeep. When we started her there was no throttle for the first 10-15 secs and the engine management light was on. We stopped and started her and locked and unlocked her to see if the light would go out. Nope. She was clean enough underneath and nice to drive but intermittently lost the throttle. We brought her back to the garage and told the seller of the issues and that we wouldn't be taking her. He was shocked as she had only passed the DOE two days earlier. On the way home my friend said I was blessed that the light came on in his yard.

    The next day the dealer rang and said he had his mechanic check it out and that it was a stuck EGR valve, a cheap €70 fix and he'd drop €500 off the price and meet me half way on the road. Alarm bells rang again, he was prepared to lose €500 on €70 fix. Thanked him but decided to pass. That was three weeks ago and its still for sale at the higher price


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