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Schools closed until February? (part 3)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Can’t even click and collect now yet Norma is thinking of sending kids back. The whole schools are safe thing seems to be the hill she is willing to die on.


    She will have the highest bodycount of any minister in the history of the state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    In fairness I think that poster resents the situation it would put them in, not their colleagues. I would feel exactly the same way.

    Oh no, I totally understand that, I'm sorry Wordess, I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. I meant it as more of a 'please remember not to be mad at your colleagues' It is easy - as has been shown many times on this and other threads - to lose focus on who is really at fault here. Not parents, not colleagues, not ourselves, not principals, not students


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    combat14 wrote: »
    Johnson lists a series of phone companies that have agreed to offer free data or internet access to some children who will be doing classes from home.

    Crickets from ours of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭touts


    Twitter is exploding with outraged students who suddenly realize they might have to do some work for the next 6 months.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 138 ✭✭Endintheclowns


    lulublue22 wrote: »
    Special schools won’t have anyone to help out though - John Boyle on Ireland am indicated transmission rates ( not surprisingly ) in special schools slightly higher than in national schools. Yet all good to open with such high levels of community transmission not to mention the school transport issue.

    Special needs kids are usually transported to school by contractors working for Dublin bus usually in mini buses. Are the drivers and SNA's on the buses going to be vaccinated before the kids return because i wouldn't want to be driving a minibus with 7-8 kids onboard with the virus so rampant at the minute.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭Benimar


    combat14 wrote: »
    could always stop remote teaching for years 1-5

    Jaysus! Can you imagine the vitriol out of some posters?!

    Teachers only doing 17% of their work, put them on the PUP now, and make them work every holiday between now and 2040!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,538 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    km79 wrote: »
    Teachers would have to travel to work every day as normal and teach all their classes remotely from the school building
    No other way around it

    Yup and principals will push for all staff to be in at normally working hours id bet


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    touts wrote: »
    Twitter is exploding with outraged students who suddenly realize they might have to do some work for the next 6 months. might be exposed to a rampant and far more contagious virus, bringing it home to their loved ones.

    Fixed it for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭j@utis


    Why hasn't this topic's title been changed yet to "closed till April"???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Yup and principals will push for all staff to be in at normally working hours id bet

    Would actually be entertaining to watch our school wifi try to cope with that!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭alroley


    Yeah I'd say we'll be in school all day teaching 6th in person and the rest on zoom from our classrooms. So schools are very much open and not closed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,801 ✭✭✭jimmytwotimes 2013


    If LC going ahead is this much of a priority they shud all be vaccinated in March/April rather than risk missing exam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Norma is thinking of the money pumped in last summer
    She knows full well schools are gone until April at best, trying to salvage her financial package in some form


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭combat14


    alroley wrote: »
    Yeah I'd say we'll be in school all day teaching 6th in person and the rest on zoom from our classrooms. So schools are very much open and not closed.

    already got an email from our principal to say school wide open today for teachers to come in etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭combat14


    GCSEs and A-levels cancelled in Northern Ireland

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rte.ie/amp/1188019/


    from the admin up north that cant decide on anything ... says it all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 Barbeapapa


    My LC student is not afraid of doing some work for the next 6 months. She is afraid of a leaving cert like every other year despite the fact that they have not nearly finished any of the courses for their subjects and now there is even less hope of completing the course and they are still insisting it will be LC as normal. She's a consistent, hard worker but anyone would be daunted by this. The LC exam needs to be adjusted in light of how much school was missed and disrupted, that's all most seem to want.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    combat14 wrote: »
    already got an email from our principal to say school wide open today for teachers to come in etc.

    What?! Come in and do what exactly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,832 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Its about reducing numbers, I don't see the issue with exceptions been made to 6th years and special schools. The vast majority of students still won't be on the move, while the most vulnerable and most important in our education system are still looked after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    Barbeapapa wrote: »
    My LC student is not afraid of doing some work for the next 6 months. She is afraid of a leaving cert like every other year despite the fact that they have not nearly finished any of the courses for their subjects and now there is even less hope of completing the course and they are still insisting it will be LC as normal. She's a consistent, hard worker but anyone would be daunted by this. The LC exam needs to be adjusted in light of how much school was missed and disrupted, that's all most seem to want.

    You’re absolutely right but wouldn’t be counting on it. DES wouldn’t organise a p*ss up in a brewery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    She will have the highest bodycount of any minister in the history of the state.

    She won't make any decisions or accept any responsibility. Heard her on the radio before kept saying but we are following HSE/Nephit advice. She'll stick blindly to that and pass the buck, she may as well not be there. In fact lets sack the government and let Tony run the show


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭lulublue22


    Special needs kids are usually transported to school by contractors working for Dublin bus usually in mini buses. Are the drivers and SNA's on the buses going to be vaccinated before the kids return because i wouldn't want to be driving a minibus with 7-8 kids onboard with the virus so rampant at the minute.

    School transport is a huge concern - I would be worried about schools from the perspective of contacts and community transmission being high . I would worry about special schools in terms of transmission within the school and medically vulnerable children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    What?! Come in and do what exactly?

    Possibly to pick up materials or anything they may need for online teaching?

    My principal emailed the same. I won't be going near the place until I know what is happening.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    Waterford Whispers News on fire again

    "If only we had a year to prepare for this"

    Accompanied by picture of government :pac:

    “Hospitals, oh we would have had them properly resourced. We wouldn’t have had everything open around Christmas, are you joking me? Schools? We would have had extensive home learning supports in place immediately if we needed to shut them down a second time,"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,801 ✭✭✭jimmytwotimes 2013


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    What?! Come in and do what exactly?

    Move yourself up the ladder for a middle-management position?

    Some principals acted disgracefully during the last lockdown, they haven't had personality transplants since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭scrubs33


    Yup and principals will push for all staff to be in at normally working hours id bet

    I imagine the managerial bodies will be quite happy for this to happen. I haven’t heard a peep from them about the current situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭combat14


    scrubs33 wrote: »
    I imagine the managerial bodies will be quite happy for this to happen. I haven’t heard a peep from them about the current situation.

    if college students can do online all year long leaving certs will be able to do it for a couple of weeks too... whats the big deal crack on with it they are not exactly babies....

    health and safety has be number 1 at present the government has lost control of this virus at present....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭uli84


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    What's not happening in your house??

    Learning/teaching won’t happen except looking for 3 hrs at rte


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭lulublue22




    https://twitter.com/marietcasey/status/1346810464945238016?s=21



    Yet it is fine to send special schools / special classes and LC back. You really couldn’t make this ****e up.

    ETA she tweeted this in reply to a tweet re proposals to bring LC back to school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    combat14 wrote: »
    GCSEs and A-levels cancelled in Northern Ireland
    from the admin up north that cant decide on anything ... says it all
    It's not like they had a choice to be fair. Can hardly hold their exams if the rest of the UK isn't.
    combat14 wrote: »
    if college students can do online all year long leaving certs will be able to do it for a couple of weeks too... whats the big deal crack on with it they are not exactly babies....

    health and safety has be number 1 at present the government has lost control of this virus at present....
    I'm failing to see the logic of bringing in 17-19 year olds into schools for the sake of 4-6 weeks which they can easily use for exam preparation. Infection rates are currently highest in the 19-24 cohort, bringing in LC students is asking for trouble.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,944 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Is she actually for real!!!!!!!!!!

    First of all you could have say 120 students in a year group who will be in various different mixes of classes during the day due to subject choice so not only 24 students mixing.

    Secondly not only few staff in school because if students in Principal, Deputy, Year Head maybe 15-20 teachers in see how numbers are adding up?

    Do they come in for only 1 class for 6th year then have to stay all day as might live an hours drive away and need to do classes for other year groups?

    As we know virus very widespread at moment so you could have half staff + half students absent due to Covid/close contact. So then do you need another few teachers to do S&S as students can't be left on their own.? So students in but not with their actually teacher as out so probably end up just working on what teacher sent in anyway as not there and other half at home anyway isolating.

    Then what 3 days? Is it going to change every week so all subjects are covered?

    I hope to god the someone in cabinet has the cop on to tell her how this plan is not going to work.


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