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Dublin bus crash

  • 03-10-2020 9:16am
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    Registered Users Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭ stephenjmcd


    Hopefully everyone on the bus has no serious injuries.

    Just by looking at the video and direction of travel looks to me like the driver tried to avoid the other car which had come to the attention of Gardai earlier. Referred to GSOC

    https://twitter.com/PaulDeighano/status/1312316921442902016?s=19


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,322 ✭✭✭ Polar101


    Two people in intensive care according to Irish Times, unfortunately. Edit: the people in the car, apparently

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/eight-people-injured-as-bus-and-car-collide-in-dublin-city-1.4371515


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭ stephenjmcd


    Polar101 wrote: »

    Just saw that, the two in the car which had come to the attention of Gardai. Must have been doing some speed to cause that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,322 ✭✭✭ Polar101


    https://www.thejournal.ie/ballsbridge-bus-5222462-Oct2020/

    Journal story says there were only four passengers on the bus (and the driver of course). Route 7 bus.


  • Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭ Contrails


    Alot of pictures doing the rounds on WhatsApp. Won't be forwarding on many of them. Close up shots of the cab exterior where the drivers blood is very visibly dripping down the side of the cab and on glass on the ground. I just find that so invasive and disrespectful.

    The bus was pulled into Donnybrook sheds about 20 minutes ago. A very sobering sight. Especially since I've driven it many times, fleet number GT8.

    Hope for a speedy recovery for all involved. Innocent driver on duty and fare paying passengers onboard going about their business. They deserved better than what they got last night.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭ GT89


    Contrails wrote: »
    Alot of pictures doing the rounds on WhatsApp. Won't be forwarding on many of them. Close up shots of the cab exterior where the drivers blood is very visibly dripping down the side of the cab and on glass on the ground. I just find that so invasive and disrespectful.

    The bus was pulled into Donnybrook sheds about 20 minutes ago. A very sobering sight. Especially since I've driven it many times, fleet number GT8.

    Hope for a speedy recovery for all involved. Innocent driver on duty and fare paying passengers onboard going about their business. They deserved better than what they got last night.

    Very insensitive but I guess drama is what sells on social media. Whoever took those pictures is a disgrace too getting joy also. Clearly trying to seek attention out of others misfortune.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭ dashcamdanny


    Contrails wrote: »
    Alot of pictures doing the rounds on WhatsApp. Won't be forwarding on many of them. Close up shots of the cab exterior where the drivers blood is very visibly dripping down the side of the cab and on glass on the ground. I just find that so invasive and disrespectful.

    The bus was pulled into Donnybrook sheds about 20 minutes ago. A very sobering sight. Especially since I've driven it many times, fleet number GT8.

    Hope for a speedy recovery for all involved. Innocent driver on duty and fare paying passengers onboard going about their business. They deserved better than what they got last night.

    Seen the pics as well.

    About time they started making buses safer to crash in. No belt for the driver is madness. As soon as he/she gets thrown from the seat, there is no control.

    Unions? What are they fighting for?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,870 ✭✭✭✭ whisky_galore


    "Car which came to the attention of Gardai".

    For what, tax not in date?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭ Jamie2k9


    Seen the pics as well.

    About time they started making buses safer to crash in. No belt for the driver is madness. As soon as he/she gets thrown from the seat, there is no control.

    Unions? What are they fighting for?

    Never noticed the seat belt thing, is there honestly no belt on DBs and legally what loophole are they using to get away with it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭ dublinman1990


    What an horrendous accident. I hope everyone involved has a full & speedy recovery from their ordeal.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭ GT89


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Never noticed the seat belt thing, is there honestly no belt on DBs and legally what loophole are they using to get away with it?

    Probably not one for the same there's none for passengers either as the bus is limited is to 65kmph


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭ dublinman1990


    Was the bus on the 7 from Brides Glen or the 7a from Loughlinstown?

    RTÉ News was reporting that the bus was on the 7a when it crashed last night.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,636 ✭✭✭ Midnight_EG


    "Car which came to the attention of Gardai".

    For what, tax not in date?

    Driver and 8 other people seriously injured and THAT'S the part you pick up on to make a joke about?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭ MJohnston


    Driver and 8 other people seriously injured and THAT'S the part you pick up on to make a joke about?

    I don’t think the poster is joking, merely commenting on the very vague nature of that statement.

    I’m assuming it was a stolen car, and that’s what the description is about.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭ dublinman1990


    The driver is suffering from 2 broken legs & a broken hip. That is awful for him. I hope he gets well soon. :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 Truthvader


    The driver is suffering from 2 broken legs & a broken hip. That is awful for him. I hope he gets well soon. :(

    Yep - and for some the best they could come up with was to get it out on whatsapp or twitter. So proud


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭ 91wx763


    Driver and 8 other people seriously injured and THAT'S the part you pick up on to make a joke about?

    In fairness I think the post was more about the vague statement made by the gardee shickaloneys after incidents like this when anyone can work out that there has been serious crime going on as usual.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,683 ✭✭✭✭ punisher5112


    Sure they won't see time....

    The laws are so fcuked up here it's actually sad.


    All the best wishes to our colleague and I certainly hope recovers well asap.

    Wasn't that long ago you could get some buses doing up to 115km/h or more at times....

    As the buses are 36km from base they don't need a tacho and seat belts aren't required either and to be honest nobody would use them anyway as there are standing permitted.

    Nearly sure it's 36km, been long time so could be slightly off.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭ devnull


    Having seen what the vehicle was like when it was being moved to Donnybrook it must have been quite some smash of almost unimaginable force, a real horror crash. No doubt that it's going to be sent for scrap. Can't remember seeing a bus in such a bad way after an accident.

    I'm not surprised the driver is seriously injured after that. My thoughts go to him and his family and also to all of those who have been affected by this incident. I hope that everyone involved makes a speedy recover as possible and get through this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,683 ✭✭✭✭ punisher5112


    devnull wrote: »
    Having seen what the vehicle was like when it was being moved to Donnybrook it must have been quite some smash of almost unimaginable force, a real horror crash. No doubt that it's going to be sent for scrap. Can't remember seeing a bus in such a bad way after an accident.

    I'm not surprised the driver is seriously injured after that. My thoughts go to him and his family and also to all of those who have been affected by this incident. I hope that everyone involved makes a speedy recover as possible and get through this.

    The AX in town was it last year when a van collided and then it went into the building....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭ GT89


    I've heard some say that the driver was lucky not to come out in a wooden box. Sounds somewhat like a similar incident that happened in London last year that time the driver was not so fortunate.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-53934215


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,314 ✭✭✭✭ Cookie_Monster


    So what happened. Car hit bus and then bus hit fence/tree?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,683 ✭✭✭✭ punisher5112


    So what happened. Car hit bus and then bus hit fence/tree?

    Yes


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,870 ✭✭✭✭ whisky_galore


    91wx763 wrote: »
    In fairness I think the post was more about the vague statement made by the gardee shickaloneys after incidents like this when anyone can work out that there has been serious crime going on as usual.

    Exactly. Like "known to Gardai" = scumbag.

    Funny how people make overt jokes about 100s of people getting killed in China and other far flung places but of course that's OK on Boards.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 21,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭ bk


    That is an absolutely horrifying looking crash. I haven't seen the pictures others have described and I don't want to, just the pictures in the papers look terrible. I really hope non of the passengers were in the first few rows of the upper deck!

    There is an article with more info, I won't link to it as it is a paper with a poor reputation.

    Seemingly the Gardai saw a suspicious car, the Gardai tried to stop it, but it speed off, the Gardai didn't pursue them because of traffic in the area. They are looking into if the car ran a red light.

    Seemingly the driver of the car was up and out straight away and not even in hospital now! Fecking typical. Female car passenger, bus driver and two passengers all in hospital.

    My thoughts are with the bus driver and passengers and their families. I hope they will all be ok and make a speedy recovery.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 43,433 Mod ✭✭✭✭ magicbastarder


    bk wrote: »
    Seemingly the Gardai saw a suspicious car, the Gardai tried to stop it, but it speed off, the Gardai didn't pursue them because of traffic in the area.
    a little OT, but i was once witness to a car crash which happened during a pursuit (the garda car was a good 30s behind the people they were chasing, i don't know if that's relevant); but i was surprised as i thought the above condition would apply. happened on griffith avenue at about 4pm a few years ago, lots of schoolkids around. thankfully the car hit a tree (after hitting another car) and not a pedestrian.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭ GT89




  • Registered Users Posts: 759 ✭✭✭ testarossa40


    I don't understand why the NBRU came out to say this incident is an example of why the establishment of a dedicated Transport Police division is overdue? What more (if anything) could they have done to stop it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭ MJohnston


    I think one thing this incident shows is that if we wanted an effective Transport Police, best not give that responsibility to An Garda Síochána


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,322 ✭✭✭ Polar101


    MJohnston wrote: »
    I think one thing this incident shows is that if we wanted an effective Transport Police, best not give that responsibility to An Garda Síochána

    Seems a bit harsh to blame this on the Gardai, the driver of the car is the one responsible for the accident.


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 21,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭ bk


    MJohnston wrote: »
    I think one thing this incident shows is that if we wanted an effective Transport Police, best not give that responsibility to An Garda Síochána

    I'd have a lot of complaints about the Gardai, but from what we have heard about this incident so far, I don't think they necessarily did the wrong thing here.

    Seemingly they didn't pursue him, which in general is the safer thing to do. Unfortunately despite not being chased, this idiot kept speeding and caused this crash. So I don't think this one is on the Gardai.


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