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I have been doing nothing but research and my head is spinning with the titanium options and bottom bracket standards!🤪
I've checked all brands you've mentioned, all bar Reilly are Asian made like the PX Tempest and can't find anything to match them on price. The Reilly looks really good, site says nothing though about UK or Irish Vat or taking it off for export. ~€2500 which isn't bad if I could avoid not getting double taxed.
Triban was good value at €2400 but has gone up to €3100 and only have a small in stock now.
There's a very nice Van Nichols on adverts built up with GRX and Hope bits that I think is well priced. Interested but I'm very tempted by the shiny new bike option that I get to pick all the bit's on myself.
Leaning to the Lynskey G300 or the Litespeed Waita. Would prefer the Waita it is the better bike and geometry is closer to racier endurance bike which I would prefer. It's a nice jump in price though more if I include forks from both. Difference is a bit less if I leave off the forks as there is 20% extra off the Lynskey fork.
I did email both, Lynskey wouldn't offer any extra discount or upgrades but Litespeed said they would include etched logos which closes the gap a little. And they'd upgrade to a T47 BB shell for $150 instead of $250. That's still €170 with tax though which pays for a few BB or one higher end BB I can replace bearings on. PF30 isn't as bad as BB86 running 30mm cranks and the Litespeed BB shell is going to be properly aligned and faced. Is the T47 going to be worth it long term though? It adds weight and the bottom brackets are dearer. Think I'm going to leave it out and see if they'd maybe throw in the headset instead.
At the moment I'm thinking sensible option is the Lynskey GR300 with adventure fork would be ~ €1640 delivered+ tax which is pretty decent value. Add 220 for Etched logos which brings it a little too close to the Litespeed I think.
The Litespeed fork adds too much with tax, it would nearly pay for an Enve gravel fork or there's cheaper options I can buy in Europe. Waita frameset, free etching, PF30 plus top mounts would cost €1930 adding their fork €2430.
I do want the Litespeed but can I really justify an extra €790 on a slightly prettier, lighter bike! That does shrink to €570 if I spec the Etched graphics on the Lynskey! That pays for a decent wheelset and an lot of finishing kit though.
It's pretty much a case of head vs heart. This is a once off life time purchase though and I'm kind of justifying to myself to buy once, cry once. I do have a bit of spare cash with bonuses and other bits so I'm not quite over stretching either way. I'm also using it as a carrot to get back cycling more regularly.
Sorry for vomiting my thoughts out, this wasn't meant to be as long! It keeps it clearer though I really should do an excel sheet or a pro and con table. Have done a lot of reading posts and reviews, so hard to make up my mind. Most do say the Litespeed is better but not by that much. RRP is close but Lynskey's do much bigger discounts. They both are equally well made, butted tubes and lighter is main gain on the Waita.
Aluminium headset insert is main criticism of the GR300 I see, but it does have a BSA bb shell. Few say the 300 geometry is too relaxed then other say the Litespeed is too aggressive! Really depends what you want and use it for and set up can change a lot and vary a bit on size. Even found one guy who said he owned both and he found very little difference, both were great!
I have a Genisis flyer that is same geometry and my PX is an excellent fit for me with a 100mm stem.
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