Do you personally know anybody working in a generally hated job?

PARlance

BattleCorp wrote: »

I work in Health and Safety. I'm pretty much hated by both management and employees.

Ah now, it's more disdain than hatred.

PARlance

wally1990 wrote: »

I worked in eflows debt collection department for 4 years dealing with unpaid tolls ranging from 200e to >100k balances plus legal cases that were being taken ........

Feel free to absolutely hate me

I presume it's a different team for the smaller amounts? I find them extremely pleasant and helpful. I've been caught out a few times by just forgetting to pay on time and they'll generally just accept the original fee.

landofthetree

I know a few builders. They are generally ignorant uneducated clowns who are constantly in and out of work and blame everything on foreigners.

Jimbob1977

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

I’m one. I tell people I’m a Web Developer, which I was, but actually I’m now (shudders) middle management.

Boy, that's a straight shooter with Upper Management written all over him!!

Feisar

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

My wife does something similar (for different reasons). She works for a County Council, but will never say that when asked. She'll just mention the general area of IT she works in - which could just as easily be in the private sector.

If she mentions the Co. Co., she immediately has people complaining about planning, or the streetlight that doesn't work down the road, or just assuming that she's in line for a massive pension she doesn't have to contribute to (which is not the case).

What is it about some jobs that people get tarred with the same brush. Or people think or seem to anyway that there is some sort of hive mind in that profession.

Strumms

BattleCorp wrote: »

I work in Health and Safety. I'm pretty much hated by both management and employees.

Difficult job...

All the ones I knew though were in the same boat...

Management disliked them because they were always raping the managers budgets for this, that.. to provide the ‘theatre’ of health and safety, tick box exercises such as hi vis vests etc, other ppe, courses such as manual handling etc..

But when us line staff complain that the air quality in the warehouse is substandard, people coughing up dark ****, no services done on company vehicles like forklifts, electric pallet trucks, company cars... they simply turned a deaf ear...

With Health and Safety you can be lucky, they are independent and have the best interests of every staff member and guest front and center, brilliant. Too often though it’s obvious, there to serve the best interests of the managers. Bottom line comes first.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

SilverKrest wrote: »

Im talking about jobs such as traffic wardens (meter maid in US), customs checkpoint operative, speed van operative, basically a job that generally requires low enough IQ to perform menial tasks and issue .

you forgot politician

AMKC

I used to know a receiver and this was before the 2008 crash. He reposed cars from people that could not keep up with there payments. I did not care much for it. No not friends although I think someone I also worked with might have become friends with him.
As for builders. I disagree on them been uneducated unless they are a cowboy builder. I have a cousin who is a very good builder and showed me the rule book for building regulations one day and all I will say is it's not thin but very a very fat book. There is a lot to it and a lot they have to know now

Aglomerado

Feisar wrote: »

What is it about some jobs that people get tarred with the same brush. Or people think or seem to anyway that there is some sort of hive mind in that profession.

It's the same with larger government bodies like DEASP, Revenue etc. Not all staff are welfare / tax inspectors in those places! There's a lot of backroom support staff/ HR/ Analysts etc backing up the work of the more visible people.

Man with broke phone

landofthetree wrote: »

I know a few builders. They are generally ignorant uneducated clowns who are constantly in and out of work and blame everything on foreigners.

They are just the noisy ones. There are builders from all walks of life. Half are absolute gentlemen who just like how it can change from day to day.

There are plenty of old or established building companies that are fairly corporate, building office blocks and the likes who are nearly never out of work. When the country reaches full employment you get all the boys who only work when employers are desperate. These tend to be the loud obnoxious type. Id move if I was sat having my lunch and a group of them sat within hearing distance. They just talk about weed and prices of weed and how much weed they smoke.

corner of hells

AMKC wrote: »

I used to know a receiver and this was before the 2008 crash. He reposed cars from people that could not keep up with there payments. I did not care much for it. No not friends although I think someone I also worked with might have become friends with him.
As for builders. I disagree on them been uneducated unless they are a cowboy builder. I have a cousin who is a very good builder and showed me the rule book for building regulations one day and all I will say is it's not thin but very a very fat book. There is a lot to it and a lot they have to know now

I've a cousin who has his own small building company, started off as a bricklayer and now has a degree in civil engineering. Far from ignorant.
His work is all word of mouth now , specialises in one off houses or refurbishments of older artisan style houses .
Hes booked up till early next year.

Paulzx

Man with broke phone wrote: »

I know a couple of teachers that planned maternity leave so as not to mess with summer holiday entitlements.

Yeah...the wimmins started getting uppity when we began to let them have a say in when they get pregnant. We need to nip that in the bud and get them back to the kitchen sink again. Jayasus they even brought johnnies in on the train from Belfast!!

It's no wonder Holy God sent us the pandemic

Man with broke phone

Paulzx wrote: »

Yeah...the wimmins started getting uppity when we began to let them have a say in when they get pregnant. We need to nip that in the bud and get them back to the kitchen sink again. Jayasus they even brought johnnies in on the train from Belfast!!

It's no wonder Holy God sent us the pandemic

Its the summer holidays I think should change not the maternity leave. How much of my childrens education budget is wasted on painting and minor renovation works teachers should be doing at the school during summer holidays.

They have degrees, surely they should be able to paint the buildings and cut the grass during mid term. Correct a few exam papers.

But they dont stop there. A system was put in place for women who fall pregnant out of their holidays to make women comfortable when pregnant and every last inch of it is now being exploited.

Also sick days. A number of allocated sick days are given to people incase they were to get sick. Every one of these days is used up every year regardless of being sick or not.

Smart enough to exploit the system but not smart enough to use a paint brush.

s1ippy

A lot of Irish people will resent you if you're earning no matter how hard you work or what job you do.

breezy1985

Ide love to be a traffic warden and ide be a real strict b******s of one too. The ignorance of some drivers in this country is shocking

corner of hells

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Its the summer holidays I think should change not the maternity leave. How much of my childrens education budget is wasted on painting and minor renovation works teachers should be doing at the school during summer holidays.

They have degrees, surely they should be able to paint the buildings and cut the grass during mid term. Correct a few exam papers.

But they dont stop there. A system was put in place for women who fall pregnant out of their holidays to make women comfortable when pregnant and every last inch of it is now being exploited.

Also sick days. A number of allocated sick days are given to people incase they were to get sick. Every one of these days is used up every year regardless of being sick or not.

Smart enough to exploit the system but not smart enough to use a paint brush.

Please tell me you want pregnant teachers painting and cutting grass on maternity leave.
We could probably kick the bollix out their partners too.

kippy

Man with broke phone wrote: »

I know someone who works in Irish water and he takes a few days off sick every 2 weeks. Depression.

I know a couple of teachers that planned maternity leave so as not to mess with summer holiday entitlements.

What's wrong with that?

corner of hells

kippy wrote: »

What's wrong with that?

Ridin' without his permission.

BattleCorp

corner of hells wrote: »

Please tell me you want pregnant teachers painting and cutting grass on maternity leave.
We could probably kick the bollix out their partners too.

Health and safety hat on here.

You'd have to train the teachers how to use lawnmowers, provide them with appropriate PPE, provide them with spill kits etc. if they spill petrol etc. You'd also have to provide safe storage facilities for the lawnmower and the fuel in the school. You'd have to include cutting grass in the Safety Statement and Risk Assessments and you'd have to train the teachers in these. Have they manual handling training for emptying the grass etc. What do you do for teachers who have allergies to freshly cut grass?

Then painting. You'd have to train the teachers how to paint. You'd have to provide them with PPE. You'd have to train them for working at heights. You'd have to provide them with ladders, maybe scissors lifts etc. You'd have to train them how to use them too. And the same stuff regarding Risk Assessments and Safety Statements would have to be done too. If they were using a scissors lift you'd have to develop rescue plans should something go wrong. There are many areas where you can't use a scissors lift (uneven ground) so you then need scaffolding. You've now to train the teachers how to safely use them, how to inspect them etc.

And then you've any maintenance going on in the school during the holidays, does the school count as a construction site. If so, then they'd need a Safe Pass card.

It's not quite as simple as you think getting them to do odd jobs.

corner of hells

BattleCorp wrote: »

Health and safety hat on here.

You'd have to train the teachers how to use lawnmowers, provide them with appropriate PPE, provide them with spill kits etc. if they spill petrol etc. You'd also have to provide safe storage facilities for the lawnmower and the fuel in the school. You'd have to include cutting grass in the Safety Statement and Risk Assessments and you'd have to train the teachers in these. Have they manual handling training for emptying the grass etc. What do you do for teachers who have allergies to freshly cut grass?

Then painting. You'd have to train the teachers how to paint. You'd have to provide them with PPE. You'd have to train them for working at heights. You'd have to provide them with ladders, maybe scissors lifts etc. You'd have to train them how to use them too. And the same stuff regarding Risk Assessments and Safety Statements would have to be done too. If they were using a scissors lift you'd have to develop rescue plans should something go wrong. There are many areas where you can't use a scissors lift (uneven ground) so you then need scaffolding. You've now to train the teachers how to safely use them, how to inspect them etc.

And then you've any maintenance going on in the school during the holidays, does the school count as a construction site. If so, then they'd need a Safe Pass card.

It's not quite as simple as you think getting them to do odd jobs.

Erm , I was joking.

BattleCorp

corner of hells wrote: »

Erm , I was joking.

Yeah, I know. I accidentally quoted your post instead of the person you were replying to.

corner of hells

BattleCorp wrote: »

Yeah, I know. I accidentally quoted your post instead of the person you were replying to.

Carry on.

Muahahaha

I remember at university it was said some of the campus security men were lads who tried to get into the Gardai but failed the test. One lad was definitely trying to act the Garda, he was well known for catching students with more than the allowed 5 people in their campus room, thus it was designated as a 'party' by the Dean.

This lad would be skulking around the accomodation buildings around midnight to catch people walking out, after questioning he would then rat you out to the Dean and the student would get fined a hundred euro which was taken off their rental deposit. Same campus had huge trouble with bikes constantly getting stolen from it but gathering fines from students seemed to be this security guards main priority, he was widely hated as a result.

breezy1985

Muahahaha wrote: »

I remember at university it was said some of the campus security men were lads who tried to get into the Gardai but failed the test. One lad was definitely trying to act the Garda, he was well known for catching students with more than the allowed 5 people in their campus room, thus it was designated as a 'party' by the Dean.

This lad would be skulking around the accomodation buildings around midnight to catch people walking out, after questioning he would then rat you out to the Dean and the student would get fined a hundred euro which was taken off their rental deposit. Same campus had huge trouble with bikes constantly getting stolen from it but gathering fines from students seemed to be this security guards main priority, he was widely hated as a result.

Probably gets a cut of the fine

eastie17

breezy1985 wrote: »

Probably gets a cut of the fine

Or a percentage of the takings from the stolen bikes

Cabaal

Know somebody who works for AIB and during the recession they would always say they were a florist when asked what they did. The had all the details too.

They just got sick of people ranting if they told them the truth.

It wasn't like they made big money either, they were low level

Markcheese

duffysfarm wrote: »

became friends with an elderly woman who works in compliance in the Revenue Commissioners through a mutual friend. She is gas craic- is getting work done on her house and told the builder she wants a cash price and doesnt want to pay vat!

I know of similar from years ago , the revenue vat inspector used to stress my mam out ... ( Was known in our house as the bat lady ) ,
Anyways she was getting work done on her house , she wanted to fiddle the vat ... needless to say ,She was told where to go ..

Muahahaha

breezy1985 wrote: »

Probably gets a cut of the fine

I dont know what he was up to but he had a complete hard on for students having 'parties' i.e. 6 people in one room. As said some of these lads wanted to be Gardai but didnt make the grade for whatever reason. So likely he was using his campus security job to prove to himself that he really could be a Garda by catching students socialising in such massive numbers as 6 people to a room. Sad stuff, none of the other campus security lads were like that, they would break up much larger parties but didnt go ratting the students out to the Dean to dole out 100 euro fines.

Cabaal wrote: »

Know somebody who works for AIB and during the recession they would always say they were a florist when asked what they did. The had all the details too.

They just got sick of people ranting if they told them the truth.

It wasn't like they made big money either, they were low level

yeah similarily a good mate works on the counter in Ulster Bank and around the banking crash they were getting huge abuse at the counter off some customers who literally blamed them for the entire economic collapse. Some members of the public are just idiots really.

Capt'n Midnight

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

I operate a fleet of mobile car crushers. I’m the person the traffic warden calls when they encounter a car illegally parked and blocking traffic. Or when a Garda stops an uninsured driver or an accompanied learner driver.

My invoice goes to the car owner. Love my job.

“You have 30 minutes to move your cube”.

wally1990

PARlance wrote: »

I presume it's a different team for the smaller amounts? I find them extremely pleasant and helpful. I've been caught out a few times by just forgetting to pay on time and they'll generally just accept the original fee.

Ya, the general customer service front office departments handle 99% of standard due tolls and unpaid tolls with options to waive balances in certain situation (I won't publicly disclose)

They don't interact nor have access to the accounts me and my colleagues handled. Those customers were passed to us without their control.

There was 2 other debt management depts and let's just say looking back I/we absolutely fleeced people.

I grew a thick skin to people and pity stories.

I still carry that mindset.

I was a complete target driven corporate c**t

I've been called every name under the sun and was told to hang myself a few times.

I undertook so much training over the years from multiple forms of sales and negotiation training, debt management training, payment plan and debt restructuring training plus endless call handling courses including difficult calls.

All that side of it was fascinating to me actually and so was finance overall and I learnt loads in my career but at the end of the day I was either still fleecing a single mother who was driving a 1 litre Corsa up and down each day of their children's allowance each week or big fleet clients like Tesco.

I eventually burnt out(years of working in a target environment makes you weary)

I became absolutely numb to stories and always focused on the goal at hand but looking back, it's a horrible job to be in.

You need to be 100% separated from human comparison whilst actually pretending you had it.

Again, looking back it's fascinating how we controlled negotiations, asked certain leading questions , using open and closed questions at certain times,

Jesus there is a lot more but at the end of the dsy it was a money driven machine that only generated profits upon profits for that poxy company.

I'm sickened how much millions my dept took in each year.

I've switched careers since and became an accountant

Now I save people from paying taxes on a daily basis in a compliant manner.

How times change but it's still all finance related.

Now, my goal to stop the Revenue from ****ing taken my clients money and by Christ that's my current goal