Do you personally know anybody working in a generally hated job?

SilverKrest

Im talking about jobs such as traffic wardens (meter maid in US), customs checkpoint operative, speed van operative, basically a job that generally requires low enough IQ to perform menial tasks and issue pesky fines to the general public.

Some of these type people are petty in general and get a slight kick out of catching out a member of public, (they get to wear a hat that makes them kinda looks like a cop)

Anyway staying with the original question, I dont personally know anyone in them roles, and knowbody else I ask seems to either. Not a job you'd like to tell everybody about I suppose.

pgj2015

SilverKrest wrote: »

Im talking about jobs such as traffic wardens (meter maid in US), customs checkpoint operative, speed van operative, basically a job that generally requires low enough IQ to perform menial tasks and issue pesky fines to the general public.

Some of these type people are petty in general and get a slight kick out of catching out a member of public, (they get to wear a hat that makes them kinda looks like a cop)

Anyway staying with the original question, I dont personally know anyone in them roles, and knowbody else I ask seems to either. Not a job you'd like to tell everybody about I suppose.

Traffic wardens and those speed camera guys are needed in fairness, even with them around you still have morons who park anywhere they like and drive at crazy speeds, imagine what these morons would do it you didnt have anyone enforcing the law.

Mules

I knew an airport security guard who acted like a bit of a fascist. He wasn't one of the proper ones with guns. He just walked around Shannon airport giving out to people:D
Anyway he enjoyed the bit of power he had.

McGinniesta

My brother is an investment banker.

He likes to keep that quiet.

inthenip

SilverKrest wrote: »

Im talking about jobs such as traffic wardens (meter maid in US), customs checkpoint operative, speed van operative, basically a job that generally requires low enough IQ to perform menial tasks and issue pesky fines to the general public.

Some of these type people are petty in general and get a slight kick out of catching out a member of public, (they get to wear a hat that makes them kinda looks like a cop)

Anyway staying with the original question, I dont personally know anyone in them roles, and knowbody else I ask seems to either. Not a job you'd like to tell everybody about I suppose.

OH FFS, Its people with low IQs is why these jobs are needed.

Airyfairy12

I dont understand the hate towards speed camera's, if youre not speeding theyre nothing to worry about, if anything we need more speed cameras, Id actually appreciate if there where road cameras to catch all different kinds of dangerous driving. I was almost in a collision today after a car pulled out of a junction right onto the main road without even looking, realised his mistake and stopped in the middle of the f'cking road. If I had been driving any bit over the speed limit I wouldnt have had time to react, I would have went straight into the side of him.

Gregor Samsa

I’m one. I tell people I’m a Web Developer, which I was, but actually I’m now (shudders) middle management.

Man with broke phone

I know someone who works in Irish water and he takes a few days off sick every 2 weeks. Depression.

I know a couple of teachers that planned maternity leave so as not to mess with summer holiday entitlements.

ShatterAlan

SilverKrest wrote: »

Im talking about jobs such as traffic wardens (meter maid in US), customs checkpoint operative, speed van operative, basically a job that generally requires low enough IQ to perform menial tasks and issue pesky fines to the general public.

Some of these type people are petty in general and get a slight kick out of catching out a member of public, (they get to wear a hat that makes them kinda looks like a cop)

Anyway staying with the original question, I dont personally know anyone in them roles, and knowbody else I ask seems to either. Not a job you'd like to tell everybody about I suppose.

How else do you enforce the laws of speeding and making life difficult for others? How else do you try to control smuggling?


Yeah I know this bloke. He's a police officer. The pesky bastard prevents me from shoplifting and defecating in the street after I've assaulted someone during a pub crawl. What a dick, he is.

Don't get me wrong, I hate little mini-Hitlers like those chimps in American airports who work for the DHS or FSA and get a chubby over fucking iwth decent people just trying to get on a plane and get the hell out of that pathetic 4th world country. They take their break at McDonald's and yap about whose wife they made cry and missed her flight back to Bangalore but by and large traffic wardens are not abusing you, nor are speed camera people.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Did a stint as a Social Welfare Inspector for a bit. After knowing them for 30 years, I'd have lads down the local speaking in hushed tones when I was around.

Work away lads, I'm out for a pint, I don't give a **** what ye're up to.

People who are expert at delegating responsibility, and claiming all the credit at a much higher pay packet than their hard-working underlings.

nthclare

[Deleted User] wrote: »

People who are expert at delegating responsibility, and claiming all the credit at a much higher pay packet than their hard-working underlings.

Absolutely, I've seen it and silos are very common in the workplace too.

But I think covid 19 is starting to thin them out, there's a lot of people in fluff jobs getting caught out playing with their mouse at home over the last few months.

In all fairness I'm a tree surgeon and can touch type without looking at the keyboard, there's some right numpties who take up day's in the office getting well paid and I can bang out a report in 4 minutes that takes some people an hour to get a few paragraphs.

Mavis beacon an ecdl course and a degree in psychology served me well while I was off work for a few year's from 99 to 2005 due to a horrific car crash.

As for people's social skills and behaviour in the work environment these days mixed with their lack of awareness, I can see how there's a lot of stress in the cooperative world.

It stinks, give me a chainsaw, rake's and a few forks and a lonely wood any day.

nthclare

Mules wrote: »

I knew an airport security guard who acted like a bit of a fascist. He wasn't one of the proper ones with guns. He just walked around Shannon airport giving out to people:D
Anyway he enjoyed the bit of power he had.

I think I know who you're on about, the loon used to stop us fishing off the boathouse at the pier in Shannon Airport, he'd drive down from the airport in his airport police car, walk over like a guard and fck us off.

I fished beside him at a fishing competition in the late 90's and he knew my dad, he was mortified but the next time he caught us fishing the boathouse he just said be careful lad's

Mules

nthclare wrote: »

I think I know who you're on about, the loon used to stop us fishing off the boathouse at the pier in Shannon Airport, he'd drive down from the airport in his airport police car, walk over like a guard and fck us off.

I fished beside him at a fishing competition in the late 90's and he knew my dad, he was mortified but the next time he caught us fishing the boathouse he just said be careful lad's

That sounds like him alright

Rodney Bathgate

I operate a fleet of mobile car crushers. I’m the person the traffic warden calls when they encounter a car illegally parked and blocking traffic. Or when a Garda stops an uninsured driver or an accompanied learner driver.

My invoice goes to the car owner. Love my job.

Chips Lovell

Man with broke phone wrote: »

I know someone who works in Irish water and he takes a few days off sick every 2 weeks. Depression.

I know a couple of teachers that planned maternity leave so as not to mess with summer holiday entitlements.

Sure you do.

o1s1n

One of my lifelong best mates (We've known each other since we started primary school at 4!) is a Garda Detective.

Great lad but jeez does that job take it's toll on you and the abuse he's gotten over the years from all walks of life is insane. I'm convinced he's going to end up like Riggs from Lethal weapon!

eviltwin

SilverKrest wrote: »

Im talking about jobs such as traffic wardens (meter maid in US), customs checkpoint operative, speed van operative, basically a job that generally requires low enough IQ to perform menial tasks and issue pesky fines to the general public.

Some of these type people are petty in general and get a slight kick out of catching out a member of public, (they get to wear a hat that makes them kinda looks like a cop)

Anyway staying with the original question, I dont personally know anyone in them roles, and knowbody else I ask seems to either. Not a job you'd like to tell everybody about I suppose.

I can't speak for the other roles but you're having a laugh with customs. The amount of tact and people skills it takes to do that job, you're dealing with people who are potentially criminal and you have to manage your interaction with them in a very subtle way. You might also be finding stuff that is quite harrowing: people - sometimes deceased, animals, drugs, pornography.....

Not a low IQ job at all, far from it.

duffysfarm

became friends with an elderly woman who works in compliance in the Revenue Commissioners through a mutual friend. She is gas craic- is getting work done on her house and told the builder she wants a cash price and doesnt want to pay vat!

PARlance

Know a lad who works as a debt collector for a utility company. He volunteers / works a bit for a charity as well, incredibly nice guy and he usually leads with the charity job when asked.

Turns out most of the outstanding debt are people who have passed away.

Signore Fancy Pants

SilverKrest wrote: »

Im talking about jobs such as traffic wardens (meter maid in US), customs checkpoint operative, speed van operative, basically a job that generally requires low enough IQ

You looking for a job?

El Tarangu

I used to work in a part-time job when I was younger with a lady who 'a job in the civil service' - *ends discussion* as her main job. It was only when I got to know her better that she told me she was working for CAB, hence all the secrecy - not generally hated, but hated among a select group you would not be keen on meeting.

Another lady told on the same job me she worked for the Dept of Social Welfare in some suburban office, but had previously worked in one of the big labour exchanges in the centre of Dublin, and hated it - she told me stories of some criminal livid at being obliged to sign on - told her that he had a price on his head, unbuttoned his jacket to show her that he was wearing a bullet-proof vest.

Geuze

Man with broke phone wrote: »

I know a couple of teachers that planned maternity leave so as not to mess with summer holiday entitlements.

This is common.

However, it seems nothing to do with the title of this thread.

_Brian

Know a guy who worked for one of the big four accounting firms.

His job was to go in at night when employees were at home, assess the books and wind up the company, preferably paying out as little money as possible.

murpho999

Man with broke phone wrote: »

I know someone who works in Irish water and he takes a few days off sick every 2 weeks. Depression.

I know a couple of teachers that planned maternity leave so as not to mess with summer holiday entitlements.

Why would he be depressed because of work?

IW does good work and is needed. The controversy is in how it's funded. Now done through general taxation for most.

So why people still hate them is beyond me.

Also, if the person you know is really out all the time due to depression then he should seek help and HR would get involved with that level of sick leave.

Mongfinder General

Unclamping cars must be fun.

BattleCorp

I work in Health and Safety. I'm pretty much hated by both management and employees.

Feisar

Mongfinder General wrote: »

Unclamping cars must be fun.

I got clamped in a poorly marked coaches bay on Hanover St a couple of years ago. I was there early enough so there was ample parking about plus I had my ticket so it was an honest mistake. Although as I said it was poorly marked. The funny part was a bus driver blowing me out of it. Eh I'm clamped, what exactly are you expecting me to do. I did go over to him to engage in some cordial dialogue however he was disinclined to parley. My angry/sex face can be a bit intense looking.

Man with broke phone

murpho999 wrote: »

Why would he be depressed because of work?

IW does good work and is needed. The controversy is in how it's funded. Now done through general taxation for most.

So why people still hate them is beyond me.

Also, if the person you know is really out all the time due to depression then he should seek help and HR would get involved with that level of sick leave.

I think he just pulls the depression card, he is always depressed on the days his wife is off and they go out for lunch together or what have you.

Gregor Samsa

El Tarangu wrote: »

I used to work in a part-time job when I was younger with a lady who 'a job in the civil service' - *ends discussion* as her main job.

My wife does something similar (for different reasons). She works for a County Council, but will never say that when asked. She'll just mention the general area of IT she works in - which could just as easily be in the private sector.

If she mentions the Co. Co., she immediately has people complaining about planning, or the streetlight that doesn't work down the road, or just assuming that she's in line for a massive pension she doesn't have to contribute to (which is not the case).

wally1990

I worked in eflows debt collection department for 4 years dealing with unpaid tolls ranging from 200e to >100k balances plus legal cases that were being taken ........

Feel free to absolutely hate me

PARlance

BattleCorp wrote: »

I work in Health and Safety. I'm pretty much hated by both management and employees.

Ah now, it's more disdain than hatred.

PARlance

wally1990 wrote: »

I worked in eflows debt collection department for 4 years dealing with unpaid tolls ranging from 200e to >100k balances plus legal cases that were being taken ........

Feel free to absolutely hate me

I presume it's a different team for the smaller amounts? I find them extremely pleasant and helpful. I've been caught out a few times by just forgetting to pay on time and they'll generally just accept the original fee.

landofthetree

I know a few builders. They are generally ignorant uneducated clowns who are constantly in and out of work and blame everything on foreigners.

Jimbob1977

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

I’m one. I tell people I’m a Web Developer, which I was, but actually I’m now (shudders) middle management.

Boy, that's a straight shooter with Upper Management written all over him!!

Feisar

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

My wife does something similar (for different reasons). She works for a County Council, but will never say that when asked. She'll just mention the general area of IT she works in - which could just as easily be in the private sector.

If she mentions the Co. Co., she immediately has people complaining about planning, or the streetlight that doesn't work down the road, or just assuming that she's in line for a massive pension she doesn't have to contribute to (which is not the case).

What is it about some jobs that people get tarred with the same brush. Or people think or seem to anyway that there is some sort of hive mind in that profession.

Strumms

BattleCorp wrote: »

I work in Health and Safety. I'm pretty much hated by both management and employees.

Difficult job...

All the ones I knew though were in the same boat...

Management disliked them because they were always raping the managers budgets for this, that.. to provide the ‘theatre’ of health and safety, tick box exercises such as hi vis vests etc, other ppe, courses such as manual handling etc..

But when us line staff complain that the air quality in the warehouse is substandard, people coughing up dark ****, no services done on company vehicles like forklifts, electric pallet trucks, company cars... they simply turned a deaf ear...

With Health and Safety you can be lucky, they are independent and have the best interests of every staff member and guest front and center, brilliant. Too often though it’s obvious, there to serve the best interests of the managers. Bottom line comes first.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

SilverKrest wrote: »

Im talking about jobs such as traffic wardens (meter maid in US), customs checkpoint operative, speed van operative, basically a job that generally requires low enough IQ to perform menial tasks and issue .

you forgot politician

AMKC

I used to know a receiver and this was before the 2008 crash. He reposed cars from people that could not keep up with there payments. I did not care much for it. No not friends although I think someone I also worked with might have become friends with him.
As for builders. I disagree on them been uneducated unless they are a cowboy builder. I have a cousin who is a very good builder and showed me the rule book for building regulations one day and all I will say is it's not thin but very a very fat book. There is a lot to it and a lot they have to know now

Aglomerado

Feisar wrote: »

What is it about some jobs that people get tarred with the same brush. Or people think or seem to anyway that there is some sort of hive mind in that profession.

It's the same with larger government bodies like DEASP, Revenue etc. Not all staff are welfare / tax inspectors in those places! There's a lot of backroom support staff/ HR/ Analysts etc backing up the work of the more visible people.

Man with broke phone

landofthetree wrote: »

I know a few builders. They are generally ignorant uneducated clowns who are constantly in and out of work and blame everything on foreigners.

They are just the noisy ones. There are builders from all walks of life. Half are absolute gentlemen who just like how it can change from day to day.

There are plenty of old or established building companies that are fairly corporate, building office blocks and the likes who are nearly never out of work. When the country reaches full employment you get all the boys who only work when employers are desperate. These tend to be the loud obnoxious type. Id move if I was sat having my lunch and a group of them sat within hearing distance. They just talk about weed and prices of weed and how much weed they smoke.

corner of hells

AMKC wrote: »

I used to know a receiver and this was before the 2008 crash. He reposed cars from people that could not keep up with there payments. I did not care much for it. No not friends although I think someone I also worked with might have become friends with him.
As for builders. I disagree on them been uneducated unless they are a cowboy builder. I have a cousin who is a very good builder and showed me the rule book for building regulations one day and all I will say is it's not thin but very a very fat book. There is a lot to it and a lot they have to know now

I've a cousin who has his own small building company, started off as a bricklayer and now has a degree in civil engineering. Far from ignorant.
His work is all word of mouth now , specialises in one off houses or refurbishments of older artisan style houses .
Hes booked up till early next year.

Paulzx

Man with broke phone wrote: »

I know a couple of teachers that planned maternity leave so as not to mess with summer holiday entitlements.

Yeah...the wimmins started getting uppity when we began to let them have a say in when they get pregnant. We need to nip that in the bud and get them back to the kitchen sink again. Jayasus they even brought johnnies in on the train from Belfast!!

It's no wonder Holy God sent us the pandemic

Man with broke phone

Paulzx wrote: »

Yeah...the wimmins started getting uppity when we began to let them have a say in when they get pregnant. We need to nip that in the bud and get them back to the kitchen sink again. Jayasus they even brought johnnies in on the train from Belfast!!

It's no wonder Holy God sent us the pandemic

Its the summer holidays I think should change not the maternity leave. How much of my childrens education budget is wasted on painting and minor renovation works teachers should be doing at the school during summer holidays.

They have degrees, surely they should be able to paint the buildings and cut the grass during mid term. Correct a few exam papers.

But they dont stop there. A system was put in place for women who fall pregnant out of their holidays to make women comfortable when pregnant and every last inch of it is now being exploited.

Also sick days. A number of allocated sick days are given to people incase they were to get sick. Every one of these days is used up every year regardless of being sick or not.

Smart enough to exploit the system but not smart enough to use a paint brush.

s1ippy

A lot of Irish people will resent you if you're earning no matter how hard you work or what job you do.

breezy1985

Ide love to be a traffic warden and ide be a real strict b******s of one too. The ignorance of some drivers in this country is shocking

corner of hells

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Its the summer holidays I think should change not the maternity leave. How much of my childrens education budget is wasted on painting and minor renovation works teachers should be doing at the school during summer holidays.

They have degrees, surely they should be able to paint the buildings and cut the grass during mid term. Correct a few exam papers.

But they dont stop there. A system was put in place for women who fall pregnant out of their holidays to make women comfortable when pregnant and every last inch of it is now being exploited.

Also sick days. A number of allocated sick days are given to people incase they were to get sick. Every one of these days is used up every year regardless of being sick or not.

Smart enough to exploit the system but not smart enough to use a paint brush.

Please tell me you want pregnant teachers painting and cutting grass on maternity leave.
We could probably kick the bollix out their partners too.

kippy

Man with broke phone wrote: »

I know someone who works in Irish water and he takes a few days off sick every 2 weeks. Depression.

I know a couple of teachers that planned maternity leave so as not to mess with summer holiday entitlements.

What's wrong with that?

corner of hells

kippy wrote: »

What's wrong with that?

Ridin' without his permission.

BattleCorp

corner of hells wrote: »

Please tell me you want pregnant teachers painting and cutting grass on maternity leave.
We could probably kick the bollix out their partners too.

Health and safety hat on here.

You'd have to train the teachers how to use lawnmowers, provide them with appropriate PPE, provide them with spill kits etc. if they spill petrol etc. You'd also have to provide safe storage facilities for the lawnmower and the fuel in the school. You'd have to include cutting grass in the Safety Statement and Risk Assessments and you'd have to train the teachers in these. Have they manual handling training for emptying the grass etc. What do you do for teachers who have allergies to freshly cut grass?

Then painting. You'd have to train the teachers how to paint. You'd have to provide them with PPE. You'd have to train them for working at heights. You'd have to provide them with ladders, maybe scissors lifts etc. You'd have to train them how to use them too. And the same stuff regarding Risk Assessments and Safety Statements would have to be done too. If they were using a scissors lift you'd have to develop rescue plans should something go wrong. There are many areas where you can't use a scissors lift (uneven ground) so you then need scaffolding. You've now to train the teachers how to safely use them, how to inspect them etc.

And then you've any maintenance going on in the school during the holidays, does the school count as a construction site. If so, then they'd need a Safe Pass card.

It's not quite as simple as you think getting them to do odd jobs.

corner of hells

BattleCorp wrote: »

Health and safety hat on here.

You'd have to train the teachers how to use lawnmowers, provide them with appropriate PPE, provide them with spill kits etc. if they spill petrol etc. You'd also have to provide safe storage facilities for the lawnmower and the fuel in the school. You'd have to include cutting grass in the Safety Statement and Risk Assessments and you'd have to train the teachers in these. Have they manual handling training for emptying the grass etc. What do you do for teachers who have allergies to freshly cut grass?

Then painting. You'd have to train the teachers how to paint. You'd have to provide them with PPE. You'd have to train them for working at heights. You'd have to provide them with ladders, maybe scissors lifts etc. You'd have to train them how to use them too. And the same stuff regarding Risk Assessments and Safety Statements would have to be done too. If they were using a scissors lift you'd have to develop rescue plans should something go wrong. There are many areas where you can't use a scissors lift (uneven ground) so you then need scaffolding. You've now to train the teachers how to safely use them, how to inspect them etc.

And then you've any maintenance going on in the school during the holidays, does the school count as a construction site. If so, then they'd need a Safe Pass card.

It's not quite as simple as you think getting them to do odd jobs.

Erm , I was joking.