Champions Cup 2020/2021 General Thread

aloooof

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Would that be much different or worse than this mockery of a tournament?

Absolute shambles.

When it comes to TV revenue, then yes, it would be very different.

A round of 16 knock-out would have 15 games in total.
In this format (however bad it is) there are 55 games scheduled.

ongarite

28-0 win as predicted as consequence of games being cancelled

sydthebeat

BT will be mightily peed off.

From a competition that was a farce to being with, from a meritocracy point of view... It's just laughable now.

The whole point was to play games for TV revenue, and now you have teams just flat out refusing to play..... Caused by different covid regs in different countries.

sydthebeat

According to ultimate rugby:
Reports suggest if the game can go ahead before the end of the weekend, toulon won't forfeit.

What kind of BS is that....

Burkie1203

https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/1339996484452933633

Rigor Mortis

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Would that be much different or worse than this mockery of a tournament?

Absolute shambles.

It's a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham.

I move for a mis-trial.

bilston

There might be a rather bright asterix beside whoever wins the 2021 Heineken Cup!

sydthebeat

bilston wrote: »

There might be a rather bright asterix beside whoever wins the 2021 Heineken Cup!

We can make the fifth star bigger and in gold!!

Dog Botherer

i like the competition because it seems likely now that the irish teams will do well.

also the Exeter thing is still very funny sorry.

lawrencesummers

Looks to me like Toulon did the right thing.
The classification of Scarlets players not being close contacts is baffling and Toulon are not putting their players and club at risk because of it.

What’s the bets the Scarlets announce more positive cases in the next week.

irishguy1983

I see a lot of people suggesting the tournament is a joke/shambles....

What should the tournament organisers done? Is there an alternative do people feel?

Burkie1203

Card, thats red

Buer

Red card after 6 minutes for Montpellier. Andrew Brace not content with his current status with French fans is doubling down.

Burkie1203

irishguy1983 wrote: »

I see a lot of people suggesting the tournament is a joke/shambles....

What should the tournament organisers done? Is there an alternative do people feel?

They expanded it to suit the French agenda when logic said run something that wasn't across two thirds of the clubs in Europe

lawrencesummers

irishguy1983 wrote: »

I see a lot of people suggesting the tournament is a joke/shambles....

What should the tournament organisers done? Is there an alternative do people feel?

I don’t see it as being a shambles, it’s not the tried and tested format but they are making the best of a bad situation.

I think the BP win 28-0 is incredibly harsh, but themes the rules.

Interested Observer

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Card, thats red

What was it for?

Dog Botherer

Interested Observer wrote: »

What was it for?

high tackle. didn’t really have much choice but red.

Buer

Interested Observer wrote: »

What was it for?

Wasps 9 fielded a kick, stooping. Montpellier player hit man and ball but caught him high. Player bounced up but Brace said no mitigation and was always high. Think its slightly harsh as there was mitigation as well as a significant height difference between players.

The Wasps 9 not going off for a HIA makes a mockery of recent news though.

Burkie1203

Interested Observer wrote: »

What was it for?

Wasps play catching high ball
Immelman came at speed and head/shoulder straight to head. No mitigation.

irishguy1983

Burkie1203 wrote: »

They expanded it to suit the French agenda when logic said run something that wasn't across two thirds of the clubs in Europe

So again do you have an alternative in light of the current circumstances?

Burkie1203

Buer wrote: »

Wasps 9 fielded a kick, stooping. Montpellier player hit man and ball but caught him high. Player bounced up but Brace said no mitigation and was always high. Think its slightly harsh as there was mitigation as well as a significant height difference between players.

The Wasps 9 not going off for a HIA makes a mockery of recent news though.

Immelman was always high tho. That's a key part of the decision making

Burkie1203

irishguy1983 wrote: »

So again do you have an alternative in light of the current circumstances?

Competition should been smaller version. Maybe straight knockout.

Or 8 groups of 3

The current format has so much criss crossing of clubs and is convoluted.

Buer

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Immelman was always high tho. That's a key part of the decision making

He was too high but a 5'9" player was crouching down against a 6'3" centre. I don't take much issue with the call but I disagree with the no mitigation comment from Brace. Insufficient mitigation perhaps.

sydthebeat

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Competition should been smaller version. Maybe straight knockout.

Or 8 groups of 3

The current format has so much criss crossing of clubs and is convoluted.

8 pools of 3 was the most obvious way of doing 24 teams on a meritocracy basis.

Forget about the ban on inter league games, and just select from the 6 tier 1-4.... Would make for tastier groups where you could have 2 tier 2 teams in the one group.

Dog Botherer

feck me Wasps are crap

lawrencesummers

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Competition should been smaller version. Maybe straight knockout.

Or 8 groups of 3

The current format has so much criss crossing of clubs and is convoluted.

It is essentially 8 groups of 3, but the ‘convoluted’ format plays down the advantage of some teams having a simple group. It means there will be something to play for for more teams come the last round.

lawrencesummers

The commentators are close to awarding Barbery a knighthood for services to the game.

Dog Botherer

Dog Botherer wrote: »

feck me Wasps are crap

took 15 minutes camped in Montpelier’s 22 to score against 14 men.

razorblunt

The kicking in this game is awful.

Barbeary carries so aggressively too.

razorblunt

Ah cmon Brace. What is he doing?
Clear knock on.