X does America on RTE

Bellbottoms

Ugh, I have seen an advert for The Two Johnnies (?) do America.
Why?
This format has been done to death, off the top of my head I can remember Kevin McGahern and John Connors doing the same show in the last three years.
Didn't Daniel and his misses just do a show about touring the US?
And they always cover the same territory. Guns, race, etc.

Yawn

nutjobb

Maybe actually watch it before forming an opinion on it...

Bellbottoms

nutjobb wrote: »

Maybe actually watch it before forming an opinion on it...

It is a format that has been done to death at this stage. Do you really think they can bring something new to the table?

Do you think they can do a better job then Clive James, Billy Connelly or Stephen Fry?

StevenToast

Reason not to pay licence fee #612

Imagine paying for these clowns to go travelling!

the purple tin

Hector did it too. Assault rifles, rodeo etc.
I think Kathryn Thomas did it as well.


It is worse on British telly, just about any celeb you can think of has done the America documentary.

Bellbottoms

the purple tin wrote: »

It is worse on British telly, just about any celeb you can think of has done the America documentary.

I suppose it's great if you are a production company. You get paid to make the same show over and again. All that changes is the presenter.

Hangdogroad

Several things can be guaranteed.

Their journey will be in one of those 1950s open top classic cars that no one in America actually drives anymore.

One or both will wear a cowboy hat.

Interviewees will consist of some gun nut militias, black gospel choir, strippers, legalise marijuana types, visit to a prison, country n western singer etc.

theoneeyedman

the purple tin wrote: »

Hector did it too. Assault rifles, rodeo etc.
I think Kathryn Thomas did it as well.


It is worse on British telly, just about any celeb you can think of has done the America documentary.

Marty Morrissey and yer man off the radio too.... so original!

nutjobb

I'm not sure, I am glad to see them get a chance on TV though. I don't watch much TV but I do listen to their podcast going to work and do get a laugh from it.

I do agree somewhat about the format though, as in everything we do these days seems to be influenced heavily from the yanks.

the purple tin

Hangdogroad wrote: »

Several things can be guaranteed.

Their journey will be in one of those 1950s open top classic cars that no one in America actually drives anymore.

One or both will wear a cowboy hat.

Interviewees will consist of some gun nut militias, black gospel choir, strippers, legalise marijuana types, visit to a prison, country n western singer etc.

You forgot the Elvis impersonator, maybe a whole convention of them.

JP Liz V1

Johnnies can be funny, culchie funny :P

Bellbottoms

nutjobb wrote: »

I do agree somewhat about the format though, as in everything we do these days seems to be influenced heavily from the yanks.

I don't know who they are. They might be great. But my whole point is that this format is done to death.

the purple tin

Something I noticed about this format: they nearly always start in New York and travel through the country to finish in LA.
They always spend a really short amount of time in both those places, the majority of their trip seems to be spent in the southern states.
All the weird and interesting stuff seems to go on down south. East and west coasts are boring.

Bellbottoms

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Marty Morrissey and yer man off the radio too.... so original!

I forgot about that one.

The same show, every year for FIVE years.

2020 The Two Johnnies
2019 Daniel O Donnell and his wife.
2018 Marty and yer man from the radio
2017 John Connors
2016 Kevin McGaharn


Can anyone think of any more.

Did John Creddon do a show travelling around the US?

JP Liz V1

Has Francis Brennan or Dermot Bannon done any (yet)?

brian_t

Murphy's America.

Hangdogroad

Bellbottoms wrote: »

I forgot about that one.

The same show, every year for FIVE years.

2020 The Two Johnnies
2019 Daniel O Donnell and his wife.
2018 Marty and yer man from the radio
2017 John Connors
2016 Kevin McGaharn


Can anyone think of any more.

Did John Creddon do a show travelling around the US?

PJ Gallagher in his Jake Steven's guise (Makin Jake, it was terrible) 2007

Murphy's America, late 70s, been repeated a few times. Very watchable as you might expect from Mike Murphy. His series on Australia was very good too.

There was a show on TG4 pre Hector circa 2000, cant remember name. Cute girl with short hair. Was ok.

JP Liz V1

Did Vogue do something?

Hangdogroad

Theres a new one on BBC, the comedian wan with the glasses from Bake Off. Promo naturally has her firing an assault rifle.

the purple tin

Hangdogroad wrote: »

Theres a new one on BBC, the comedian wan with the glasses from Bake Off. Promo naturally has her firing an assault rifle.

Jo Brand?
They changed it up a while ago by sending two people together: Sean Locke and John Richardson, Ronnie O'Sullivan and his friend.
The latest thing is a father and son: Bradley Walsh, Martin Kemp.

I forgot about Ozzy and Jack.

Atlantic Dawn

There was a few US holiday prizes on Late Late Show where it appeared they had flown over Irish 'celebrities' to appear in the promo video for the prize.

Hangdogroad

the purple tin wrote: »

Jo Brand?
They changed it up a while ago by sending two people together: Sean Locke and John Richardson, Ronnie O'Sullivan and his friend.
The latest thing is a father and son: Bradley Walsh, Martin Kemp.

No the thin lesbian one.

Sue Perkins.

Ger Roe

Bellbottoms wrote: »

I forgot about that one.

The same show, every year for FIVE years.

2020 The Two Johnnies
2019 Daniel O Donnell and his wife.
2018 Marty and yer man from the radio
2017 John Connors
2016 Kevin McGaharn


Can anyone think of any more.

Did John Creddon do a show travelling around the US?

This will reveal my age somewhat, but in the interests of accuracy, it has to be done.

The original of the species, on RTE TV was .... Mike Murphy.
'Murphy's America' first aired in 1978 on the newly launched RTE 2 TV channel. It was repeated for nostalgic value in 2007.

Details here -

http://www.superannrte.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2937:murphys-america-take-two-2937&catid=52&Itemid=106

This was before the name change when we then ended up with RTE 1 with no RTE 2, and Network 2 with no Network 1.

When the bold Mike headed off stateside it was the most exciting development on Irish TV since Gaybo married Ms Watkins.

the purple tin

Karl Pilkington travelling around America was one of the better ones.
The people he met almost made him look normal and balanced.

human 19

Nice to see RTE are taking the advice from last year and cutting their cloth...:rolleyes:

Mantis Toboggan

I wouldnt be getting too worked up about it lads, plenty of other things to watch. Having said that I'll probably give it a watch as the 2 lads are gas.

JP Liz V1

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

I wouldnt be getting too worked up about it lads, plenty of other things to watch. Having said that I'll probably give it a watch as the 2 lads are gas.

It was a bit of craic

technocrat

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

It was a bit of craic

Thought it was surprisingly good.

Not as scripted as similar shows and refreshingly funny.

Sam Hain

Wow, how did anyone think that was going to be a good show. Paddywhackery at its most embarrassing. Unfunny people doing uninteresting things in America. Tick all the boxes for RTE. Absolute scutter.

mr_edge_to_you

"claaaaasss"

"deadlyyyy"

siblers

The Podcast is very good and they do some really good interviews on it but they just don't really work on TV. This was pretty awful, just very cringe and been done to death loads of times before, probably would have worked better as 5 minute episodes on YouTube or Instagram etc

The voice over script/narration is awful too, was hoping it would have been for better

whisky_galore

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Has Francis Brennan or Dermot Bannon done any (yet)?

How about send them both to Syria instead?
One way of course.

Schwiiing

siblers wrote: »

The Podcast is very good and they do some really good interviews on it but they just don't really work on TV. This was pretty awful, just very cringe and been done to death loads of times before, probably would have worked better as 5 minute episodes on YouTube or Instagram etc

The voice over script/narration is awful too, was hoping it would have been for better

The RTE gig was handy enough got when their podcast producer is already an RTE employee. Standard RTE jobs for the boys stuff.

obi604

Recorded it just to see what it would be like. Watched about 15 minutes and had to turn off. Absolute scutter.

They just try to be funny and culchie all the time, trying too hard. Just not natural


This lad to me is natural

https://www.facebook.com/803904546291477/posts/2918917064790204/?vh=e&extid=I0vxkXIozS1mSXeB&d=n

Mantis Toboggan

Would agree that the podcast is very good. TV show was grand, nothing spectacular but I'll watch the last 3 episodes. I'd imagine it's heavily edited and produced and the lads are limited in what they can do and see.

Finty Lemon

Two Johnnies are typical Munster humour. As a rule comedy is rather basic in that part of Ireland.
I do believe it is caused by not having access to BBC until relatively recently. Brendan Grace etc still rule in Tipp

Mantis Toboggan

Thought last nights episode was very good.

JP Liz V1

I did lol at the blogger influencer talking body positivity yet by the looks of it how much work had she done

Gods Gift

Hectors amigos was very good.

Limpy

Louis Therouw not googling his name lol, did a good few American style show. He was pretty good.

There's always a new generation who laugh to paddywhackery, so its an easy one for RTE.

Hangdogroad

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Two Johnnies are typical Munster humour. As a rule comedy is rather basic in that part of Ireland.
I do believe it is caused by not having access to BBC until relatively recently. Brendan Grace etc still rule in Tipp

That would be Brendan Grace the quintessential Dub?

JP Liz V1

Do America know what a snack box is

dublinman1990

It was on a few nights ago as it was repeating episode 3 that night. I heard the commentary from it alright. I switched it off straight away. It was terrible as it was not my thing at all.

Daithí ar Route 66 was made by TG4 a few years back.

Yurt2

Classic fish out of water low-effort content.

"Jaysus look at the size of dem buildings. How did they put them up at all at all?"

Basically, "Jaysus look at the size of *insert thing here*" over and over until they reach LA and try to meet a b list celebrity like McGyver or something (middle Ireland loves McGyver).

"Jaysus, I remember you from the telly. You were on before Where in the World. Have you seen Where in the World McGyver??"

Limpy

"Down with that sort of thing". Only a genius can come up with something like that OMG, so original and funny.

Fr Tod Umptious

Gods Gift wrote: »

Hectors amigos was very good.

Totally agree

They have been great series over the years.

He did a coast to coast US one a few years ago, but went from Georgia to California all through the south.

None of the usual visiting Irish bars or cultural centers in New York or Boston etc

Just meeting normal people, a local weather man, a former Klan member, the Alabama Blind Boys,(who happened to be big fans of Foster and Allen), a woman who owned the best crawfish stand in Mississippi, immigrants trying to cross the border, Americans on the other side trying to patrol the border keeping drug cartels out.

A whole range of people.

It's amazing the amount of research that goes into it.

Radio5

Murphy's America was great for its time. Fewer Irish people had been to America, apart from the rich few that could visit the relations. There was no internet so everything was new. Same with the Australia one.

Dermot Bannon did some programme about 'amazing' boxy glass houses abroad, I don't know if they were in US or not.

Hector's early stuff was good, before he began to believe his own publicity. A bit like Marty Morrissey.

Yurt2

There used to be a very good travel show on TG4 (Probably TnaG at the time), nerdy looking Gaelgóir who went off the beaten path in a lot of places. I remember him going to the Three Gorges Dam in China before it was finished. Must have been the early 2000s.

the purple tin

Dara O'Briain and Ed Byrne are doing one now on Blaze.

Hangdogroad

Yurt! wrote: »

There used to be a very good travel show on TG4 (Probably TnaG at the time), nerdy looking Gaelgóir who went off the beaten path in a lot of places. I remember him going to the Three Gorges Dam in China before it was finished. Must have been the early 2000s.

Manchan Magan? Hes still doing docs on TG4 and occasionally RTE.

stoneill

Rich Hall had the best program about America.