The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 2)

StackSteevens

Listening to Slimeball Snoddy on Morning Ireland and he's so wrapped up in IRA propaganda that he referred to AGS as the "Irish Constabulary". What a jerk! When he dies, Ireland will be a far better place.

Truthvader

StackSteevens wrote: »

Listening to Slimeball Snoddy on Morning Ireland and he's so wrapped up in IRA propaganda that he referred to AGS as the "Irish Constabulary". What a jerk! When he dies, Ireland will be a far better place.

Yep. always a bit bewildering when he is on the radio trying to form a coherent sentence. Seemed to be complaining that the Guards failed to show up to shut down a party in Oliver Bond.

Maybe they were afraid someone's wife would throw a bottle at them

Truthvader

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You are typical of the partitionist 'mind' Truth...every single one of the noted partitionists on here had to have comment on the Unquiet Graves programme dragged out of them and it is of the expected simpering apologetic 'der was a few bad apples' variety.

More drivel. Not supporting or rewarding murder and thuggery is unrelated to partition. No-one has to say anything about Unquiet Graves because Boards is not infiltrated by Loyalist criminal supporters glorifying and justifying the murders.

Your continual support and justification of the Sinn Fein IRA murder campaign as a "war or conflict" or that the IRA were ever "protecting" Catholics needs to be called out every time. When Catholics actually needed protection in the late 60's it was IRA - I ran away while Catholics did not need protection from 12 year olds in Warrington or people commemorating their dead in Enniskillen

Odhinn

Truthvader wrote: »

More drivel. Not supporting(...............)ating their dead in Enniskillen

The armed struggle was regretably necessary and no amount of hand wringing is going to change that.

Truthvader

Odhinn wrote: »

The armed struggle was regretably necessary and no amount of hand wringing is going to change that.

Nope, it simply wasn't. It was a tidal wave of evil benefitting only Gerry Adams and a couple of chosen associates. For everyone else (including the families of the unfortunates persuaded to starve themselves to death) it brought only suffering

FrancieBrady

Truthvader wrote: »

More drivel. Not supporting or rewarding murder and thuggery is unrelated to partition. No-one has to say anything about Unquiet Graves because Boards is not infiltrated by Loyalist criminal supporters glorifying and justifying the murders.

Your continual support and justification of the Sinn Fein IRA murder campaign as a "war or conflict" or that the IRA were ever "protecting" Catholics needs to be called out every time. When Catholics actually needed protection in the late 60's it was IRA - I ran away while Catholics did not need protection from 12 year olds in Warrington or people commemorating their dead in Enniskillen

I never supported any murder campaign, war or conflict.

Your sanctimonious rubbish will not make that so.

Your partitionist selective moral high grounding is disgusting here. 120 died in one small geographical area and you are silent on it.
Not because it isn't relevant but because you have no moral courage.
It was that lack of moral courage that contributed massively to what happened on this island.

As you said, the violence and oppression being inflicted on our people forced the IRA into re establishing them selves because the Irish government, constitutionally mandated to protect their own citizens stood idly by and created the vacuum that the IRA or some other defensive group was always going to fill.

Your inability to acknowledge that there is not just ONE side to blame is telling.

Odhinn

Truthvader wrote: »

Nope, it simply wasn't. It was a tidal wave of evil benefitting only Gerry Adams and a couple of chosen associates. For everyone else (including the families of the unfortunates persuaded to starve themselves to death) it brought only suffering

...it seems you're riding a tidal wave of hyperbole, yourself.

mynamejeff

StackSteevens wrote: »

Listening to Slimeball Snoddy on Morning Ireland and he's so wrapped up in IRA propaganda that he referred to AGS as the "Irish Constabulary". What a jerk! When he dies, Ireland will be a far better place.

In the nightmare scenario that sf get some part of government I wonder what the gardai will do

unlikely that they will do like the psni and be told what they can investigate and what they cant

Truthvader

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I never supported any murder campaign, war or conflict.

Your sanctimonious rubbish will not make that so.

Your partitionist selective moral high grounding is disgusting here. 120 died in one small geographical area and you are silent on it.
Not because it isn't relevant but because you have no moral courage.
It was that lack of moral courage that contributed massively to what happened on this island.

As you said, the violence and oppression being inflicted on our people forced the IRA into re establishing them selves because the Irish government, constitutionally mandated to protect their own citizens stood idly by and created the vacuum that the IRA or some other defensive group was always going to fill.

Your inability to acknowledge that there is not just ONE side to blame is telling.

Could go on forever responding to this Sinn Fein IRA cocktail of lies half truths equivocations and justifications. The laughable reference to the IRA as a "defensive group" takes some neck though. What "protection" did anyone need from Tim Parry or the thousands of others going about their daily lives who your heroes decided to murder - often chosen randomly.

FrancieBrady

Truthvader wrote: »

Could go on forever responding to this Sinn Fein IRA cocktail of lies half truths equivocations and justifications. The laughable reference to the IRA as a "defensive group" takes some neck though. What "protection" did anyone need from Tim Parry or the thousands of others going about their daily lives who your heroes decided to murder - often chosen randomly.

Ffs ..more rubbish. Why did 120 have to die as Britain tried to start a bloody civil war?

It was always going to go out of control when the two governments responsible criminally abdicated that responsibility. And one of them became am active player in the war/conflict or whatever your bias wishes to call it.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I never supported any murder campaign, war or conflict.

Your sanctimonious rubbish will not make that so.

Your partitionist selective moral high grounding is disgusting here. 120 died in one small geographical area and you are silent on it.
Not because it isn't relevant but because you have no moral courage.
It was that lack of moral courage that contributed massively to what happened on this island.

As you said, the violence and oppression being inflicted on our people forced the IRA into re establishing them selves because the Irish government, constitutionally mandated to protect their own citizens stood idly by and created the vacuum that the IRA or some other defensive group was always going to fill.

Your inability to acknowledge that there is not just ONE side to blame is telling.

There isn't a single poster on these boards defending anything that a loyalist terrorist did. There is no need to challenge them.

As for moral courage, you equivocate and waffle and dodge the issue of supporting violence because you don't have the moral courage to admit that you support the killing of young children in Warrington, Mullaghmore and elsewhere, that you support the murder of Garda McCabe, that you are indifferent to the suffering of women caused by Sinn Fein and the IRA, that you celebrated the release of his killers, and that you got a good laugh from the Kingsmill bread councillor. Be honest, be upfront and say it like you feel.

Truthvader

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Ffs ..more rubbish. Why did 120 have to die as Britain tried to start a bloody civil war?

It was always going to go out of control when the two governments responsible criminally abdicated that responsibility. And one of them became am active player in the war/conflict or whatever your bias wishes to call it.

So Britain "tried to start a bloody civil war" now.

And we pass on into hyperspace leaving reality far far behind forever.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

There isn't a single poster on these boards defending anything that a loyalist terrorist did. There is no need to challenge them.

As for moral courage, you equivocate and waffle and dodge the issue of supporting violence because you don't have the moral courage to admit that you support the killing of young children in Warrington, Mullaghmore and elsewhere, that you support the murder of Garda McCabe, that you are indifferent to the suffering of women caused by Sinn Fein and the IRA, that you celebrated the release of his killers, and that you got a good laugh from the Kingsmill bread councillor. Be honest, be upfront and say it like you feel.

You are as complicit in the demeaning and vilification and lies about one community as the British or Unionist ever where.
The above is just a stream of lies blanch and you cannot back it up for an iinstance.

BTW 'Silence' is just as much an aid to the forces of darkness than support ever was.

Truthvader wrote: »

So Britain "tried to start a bloody civil war" now.

And we pass on into hyperspace leaving reality far far behind forever.

Why else would you collude with one side and carry out 'at the time' secret attacks?

Go on let the forces of the truth at that question unle4ss you wish to be a TruthEvader.

maccored

Truthvader wrote: »

Nope, it simply wasn't. It was a tidal wave of evil benefitting only Gerry Adams and a couple of chosen associates. For everyone else (including the families of the unfortunates persuaded to starve themselves to death) it brought only suffering

i know for certain now not to be bothered listening to you. if thats your view then you are either being wilfully ignorant of the conflict that occurred or just like to talk about things you know little of. Either way, not much point in debating subject like the north with someone who has so little interest

maccored

blanch152 wrote: »

There isn't a single poster on these boards defending anything that a loyalist terrorist did. There is no need to challenge them.

As for moral courage, you equivocate and waffle and dodge the issue of supporting violence because you don't have the moral courage to admit that you support the killing of young children in Warrington, Mullaghmore and elsewhere, that you support the murder of Garda McCabe, that you are indifferent to the suffering of women caused by Sinn Fein and the IRA, that you celebrated the release of his killers, and that you got a good laugh from the Kingsmill bread councillor. Be honest, be upfront and say it like you feel.

christ sake - more high horse bull****

StackSteevens

Truthvader wrote: »

Yep. always a bit bewildering when he is on the radio trying to form a coherent sentence. Seemed to be complaining that the Guards failed to show up to shut down a party in Oliver Bond.

Maybe they were afraid someone's wife would throw a bottle at them

Poor auld Snoddy was kept well away from the RTE cameras for the lunchtime news and it was left to the privately educated, articulate, reasonable Harry Potter Eoin O'Broin to make Sinn Fein's case that, as usual, it was all the fault of An Garda Siochana.

Clearly it remains a core element of SF/IRA doctrine that individuals are never responsible for any actions that they may take and it's always someone else's fault.

maccored

StackSteevens wrote: »

Clearly it remains a core element of SF/IRA doctrine that individuals are never responsible for any actions that they may take and it's always someone else's fault.

so instead its sinn feins fault there was a street party?

Truthvader

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You are as complicit in the demeaning and vilification and lies about one community as the British or Unionist ever where.
The above is just a stream of lies blanch and you cannot back it up for an iinstance.

BTW 'Silence' is just as much an aid to the forces of darkness than support ever was.



Why else would you collude with one side and carry out 'at the time' secret attacks?

Go on let the forces of the truth at that question unle4ss you wish to be a TruthEvader.

Well Francie I did a bit of reading about Unquiet graves and what did I find?

Sean Murray the maker of the film was a regular contributor to An Phoblacht back in the day. So hardly ever going to be a reliable source of anything. The narrator Stephen Rea is of course the man who looked at the wretched IRA bomber and killer of Jean McConville, Dolours Price and found love. Who do you expect will take the slightest notice of these sources?

I also read a bit more and caught up with the Barron and Cassel reports and you will be delighted to hear that I am suitably outraged that these people, particularly the RUC and UDR (who were supposed to be protecting the public) were let loose on the public and more particularly why both the Irish and British governments have not pursued this relentlessly and chased it down to uncover how high up the criminal murder campaign went AND to imprison those involved.

I suppose the reality is that firstly Sean Murrays work is from such a poisoned source that no-one wants to be seen to respond or act on it. That does not explain why no action has been taken before - unless of course the GFA which you continually refer to resulted in a free pass for loyalist criminals as well as your own heroes. If I had my way every one of the Glennane murder mob would be in jail long term - along with Gerry Adams & Co

Two other thigs occur

1. If the IRA were actually protecting Catholics as you pretend how did they sit idly by while 120 were killed. Even I would support an armed struggle on that issue.

2. Not one IRA murder, punishment beating or bombing helped a single one of the 120 people murdered by the Glenanne gang. It simply heaped the same misery and injustice on a different 120 people and achieved nothing only suffering.

Just because you have suffered injustice it does not entitle you to murder and mutilate other random people

Truthvader

StackSteevens wrote: »

Poor auld Snoddy was kept well away from the RTE cameras for the lunchtime news and it was left to the privately educated, articulate, reasonable Harry Potter Eoin O'Broin to make Sinn Fein's case that, as usual, it was all the fault of An Garda Siochana.

Clearly it remains a core element of SF/IRA doctrine that individuals are never responsible for any actions that they may take and it's always someone else's fault.

Eoin is apparently regarded as an "Intellectual" by the Sinn Fein mob because he stayed on in school after the Inter

dundalkfc10

StackSteevens wrote: »

Poor auld Snoddy was kept well away from the RTE cameras for the lunchtime news and it was left to the privately educated, articulate, reasonable Harry Potter Eoin O'Broin to make Sinn Fein's case that, as usual, it was all the fault of An Garda Siochana.

Clearly it remains a core element of SF/IRA doctrine that individuals are never responsible for any actions that they may take and it's always someone else's fault.

Well whats top stop anyone from having a party now, the guards won't do anything. Bet your bottom dollar they will be endless inspections of pubs though throughout the next while.

mynamejeff

maccored wrote: »

christ sake - more high horse bull****

its high horse bs to disagree with the terrorist murder of innocents now ?

maccored

mynamejeff wrote: »

its high horse bs to disagree with the terrorist murder of innocents now ?

its high horse bull**** to pontificate on high about something you've never had to experience first hand

maccored

Truthvader wrote: »

Well Francie I did a bit of reading about Unquiet graves and what did I find?

Sean Murray the maker of the film was a regular contributor to An Phoblacht back in the day. So hardly ever going to be a reliable source of anything. The narrator Stephen Rea is of course the man who looked at the wretched IRA bomber and killer of Jean McConville, Dolours Price and found love. Who do you expect will take the slightest notice of these sources?

I also read a bit more and caught up with the Barron and Cassel reports and you will be delighted to hear that I am suitably outraged that these people, particularly the RUC and UDR (who were supposed to be protecting the public) were let loose on the public and more particularly why both the Irish and British governments have not pursued this relentlessly and chased it down to uncover how high up the criminal murder campaign went AND to imprison those involved.

I suppose the reality is that firstly Sean Murrays work is from such a poisoned source that no-one wants to be seen to respond or act on it. That does not explain why no action has been taken before - unless of course the GFA which you continually refer to resulted in a free pass for loyalist criminals as well as your own heroes. If I had my way every one of the Glennane murder mob would be in jail long term - along with Gerry Adams & Co

Two other thigs occur

1. If the IRA were actually protecting Catholics as you pretend how did they sit idly by while 120 were killed. Even I would support an armed struggle on that issue.

2. Not one IRA murder, punishment beating or bombing helped a single one of the 120 people murdered by the Glenanne gang. It simply heaped the same misery and injustice on a different 120 people and achieved nothing only suffering.

Just because you have suffered injustice it does not entitle you to murder and mutilate other random people

it doesnt matter who made the film - what matters is what the people in it admitted to.

You sir, have a blatant bias.

mynamejeff

maccored wrote: »

its high horse bull**** to pontificate on high about something you've never had to experience first hand

Christ almighty , that's some logic , id say I remember more about the 80s than you do anyway

you don't get an opinion unless you got shot at ? so its ok to blow up children and murder totally innocent people to further your political beliefs.


that's terrorism not freedom fighting and it makes them no better those mad arabs chopping people heads off on the internet

mynamejeff

maccored wrote: »

it doesnt matter who made the film - what matters is what the people in it admitted to.

You sir, have a blatant bias.

as do you , except yours involving killing innocent children

Truthvader

maccored wrote: »

it doesnt matter who made the film - what matters is what the people in it admitted to.

You sir, have a blatant bias.

Yep, biased against all murderers regardless

FrancieBrady

Truthvader wrote: »

Well Francie I did a bit of reading about Unquiet graves and what did I find?

Sean Murray the maker of the film was a regular contributor to An Phoblacht back in the day. So hardly ever going to be a reliable source of anything. The narrator Stephen Rea is of course the man who looked at the wretched IRA bomber and killer of Jean McConville, Dolours Price and found love. Who do you expect will take the slightest notice of these sources?

I also read a bit more and caught up with the Barron and Cassel reports and you will be delighted to hear that I am suitably outraged that these people, particularly the RUC and UDR (who were supposed to be protecting the public) were let loose on the public and more particularly why both the Irish and British governments have not pursued this relentlessly and chased it down to uncover how high up the criminal murder campaign went AND to imprison those involved.

I suppose the reality is that firstly Sean Murrays work is from such a poisoned source that no-one wants to be seen to respond or act on it. That does not explain why no action has been taken before - unless of course the GFA which you continually refer to resulted in a free pass for loyalist criminals as well as your own heroes. If I had my way every one of the Glennane murder mob would be in jail long term - along with Gerry Adams & Co

Two other thigs occur

1. If the IRA were actually protecting Catholics as you pretend how did they sit idly by while 120 were killed. Even I would support an armed struggle on that issue.

2. Not one IRA murder, punishment beating or bombing helped a single one of the 120 people murdered by the Glenanne gang. It simply heaped the same misery and injustice on a different 120 people and achieved nothing only suffering.

Just because you have suffered injustice it does not entitle you to murder and mutilate other random people

Like it took the Bloody Sunday victims 40 years to expose the 'truth' it seems the unwillingness to listen will have to be endured.

I saw the messengers being 'shot' there too, many times as partitionists and the FGers and FFers turned the blind eye again.

No shame whatsoever.

markodaly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The previous police force (RUC) made a good job of undermining itself Mark, did you miss Unquiet Graves and all the other stuff they were involved in.
It would be extremely prudent to keep them under constant review, we wouldn't want to stand accused of again ignoring what is going on.

Same question for you as blanch, have you ever seen them do this in another investigation. What's the benefit of releasing this information and is it normal policing?

That was the RUC, this is the PSNI, something SF officially at least fully back and support, so why do you not support the PSNI, something even ex IRA men support?

Are you going out on a limb here?
Where is your evidence that the PSNI are up to the RUC dirty tricks of all, or are you slugging mud, hoping some of it sticks?

markodaly

StackSteevens wrote: »

Listening to Slimeball Snoddy on Morning Ireland and he's so wrapped up in IRA propaganda that he referred to AGS as the "Irish Constabulary". What a jerk! When he dies, Ireland will be a far better place.

One has to remember, SF did not even acknowledge the Irish Republic until the late 80s. That is how deluded and removed most of them were.

They fought a useless war, that cost thousands of lives for what?
A glorified talking shop with the powers of a local council, with the British Army and Westminister fully in control of the North and the Union Jack flying above government buildings to this day.

But something civil rights...

markodaly

Odhinn wrote: »

The armed struggle was regretably necessary and no amount of hand wringing is going to change that.

The biggest myth of it all.

Even in private it is now emerging that ex-IRA men, looking back see the whole thing as a waste of time and blood.

SF is trying to re-write the history on this, as if bombing and killing kids was something that just 'had to happen'. They are the Trumpers of Ireland.