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Harry Maguire - Altercation in Mykonos & Trial Thread [See Mod Note in OP - 26 Aug]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭adox


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1298681621810302978?s=20
    Harry Maguire's legal team has lodged an appeal against the guilty verdict that led to him receiving a suspended jail sentence of 21 months and 10 days in Greek court, Manchester United say.

    In accordance with Greek law, the appeal nullifies Maguire's conviction and there will be a full retrial in a more senior court.

    The sentence, given on Tuesday, is suspended for three years.

    The 27-year-old is likely to remain as United captain for the upcoming season.

    A Manchester United statement said: "An appeal against yesterday's verdict was lodged this morning by Harry's legal team.

    "This means that Harry has no criminal record and is once again presumed innocent until proven guilty. Accordingly, he is not subject to any international travel restrictions."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    If the appeal fails will the suspended sentence be turned into a full sentence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,170 ✭✭✭This is it


    If the appeal fails will the suspended sentence be turned into a full sentence?

    I'd be fairly confident that isn't the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭eigrod




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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,144 ✭✭✭DVDM93




  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    DVDM93 wrote: »

    Very strange, this whole thing, the cops reaction (if true) and threatening him he wouldn't play football again was completely over the top, have they any evidence that his sister actually was drugged?

    If there is evidence to suggest that is the case, I hope he gets off...

    Story just does not make any sense though.


  • Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I thought the whole thing sounded a bit dodgy from the police perspective before but I can't help thinking he's not telling the truth in that interview for some reason. I don't know what it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,379 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Whether Maguire is telling the truth or not I think it was really stupid giving that interview,surely he should wait until the trial is over. You would wonder how did the club allow him go ahead with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,775 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    It has certainly got stranger and stranger with that interview. So the police are claiming he assaulted one of them and tried to bribe others.

    Maguire is denying any of that took place at all and instead he is saying that plain clothes police officers told him to get down on his knees outside the police station and then they attacked him by kicking him in the legs while telling him his career is over and that he wouldnt play football ever again. He said he thought he was getting kidnapped and was in fear of his life.

    Not sure what to believe at the moment, time will tell.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    That was a bit of a train wreck.

    Whoever advised him to do that should be sacked, He should keep his mouth shut and let his legal team speak for him and he should be directing all questions to them.


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why do that interview? These things blow over. The Messi story is the main headline now.

    That interview doesn't seem to help him imo. I thought the same when Prince Andrew did that interview with BBC. Leave it to your legal team and keep the head down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    It has certainly got stranger and stranger with that interview. So the police are claiming he assaulted one of them and tried to bribe others.

    Maguire is denying any of that took place at all and instead he is saying that plain clothes police officers told him to get down on his knees outside the police station and then they attacked him by kicking him in the legs while telling him his career is over and that he wouldnt play football ever again. He said he thought he was getting kidnapped and was in fear of his life.

    Not sure what to believe at the moment, time will tell.

    I mean, we can actually see his legs in the interview, and in the picture, and for the life of me i can't see any bruises or anything...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭FluffPiece


    Yeah was thinking the same. He claims they wanted to destroy his career by attacking his legs yet he wears shorts on national TV a few days after with not a bruise in sight...

    Whoever thought doing that interview was a good idea needs to step away from Harry and stop advising him.


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why need an adviser to tell you it wasn't a good idea. Surely it's common sense. Can't understand what he was thinking.

    He's front page news again after being nearly forgotten about.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,009 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    6 wrote: »
    Why need an adviser to tell you it wasn't a good idea. Surely it's common sense. Can't understand what he was thinking.

    He's front page news again after being nearly forgotten about.
    Whether he did the interview or not, he'll be front page news again when the appeal is heard. The only way this was going away is if he'd accepted the convictions and moved on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,399 ✭✭✭✭Thanx 4 The Fish


    Amazingly blemish free legs from a man who only a week or so ago feared for his life and was violently assaulted with attacks, specifically on his legs. Maybe the only assaulted him above the short line? Terrible idea to do that interview, strange that he was allowed to as well, are there not rules in Greece as there are over here about prejudicing what is (I assume since an appeal has been granted) an active investigation into him attempting to bribe government officials and assaulting the same?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Wuff Wuff


    if Alex Ferguson was still in charge no way would he let him do that interview

    there wouldve been some other story presented to the media about a new contract dispute for a diffrent player or disruption in the preseason camp somthing to distract the masses from it and let it blow over.

    he was great at that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭adox


    I did hear on the radio the other day that the appeal could take up to a year to come about! Not sure how true that is.

    Either way it was bizarre in the extreme to do the interview.

    The whole thing is utterly bizarre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,831 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    What genius PR firm advised him to do a "tell all" interview BEFORE his trial.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Putting his guilty/innocent verdict in the future aside, The interview does him no harm publicly. In a couple of days this is a nothing story, one or two days in the papers where at least he’s said his piece isn’t a big price to pay.

    If he is innocent, it’s another example of the ridiculous character assassinations that are just accepted as normal part of the game. Why should he say nothing if he’s innocent?

    Why do any of you care about how he defends himself? I don’t get the impression it’s from a genuine care of how this plays out for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,831 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Putting his guilty/innocent verdict in the future aside, The interview does him no harm publicly. In a couple of days this is a nothing story, one or two days in the papers where at least he’s said his piece isn’t a big price to pay.

    If he is innocent, it’s another example of the ridiculous character assassinations that are just accepted as normal part of the game. Why should he say nothing if he’s innocent?

    Why do any of you care about how he defends himself? I don’t get the impression it’s from a genuine care of how this plays out for him.

    I haven't listened to a minute of the interview or read an article on it, I was just saying its unheard of to do an interview before your found innocent. No PR firm would advise that and I doubt he got approval from the club either. You shut up until after your trial then you can be the hero in front of the camera or claim your innocence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,798 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    That interview was very poor.

    His constant looking downwards as he spoke instead of looking directly at the interviewer just made him look like he's something in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,798 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Drumpot wrote: »
    You mean like Suarez on the racist claims ? Or Messi/Ronaldo on the tax fraud ? Everybody claims innocence, the difference is that Maguire may actually be innocent of what hes been accused of doing.

    I think there is alot of faux outrage, faux concern (hes doing himself more damage) and alot of rewriting of history with regards to how footballers respond to accusations against them.

    I haven't listened to the interview either. This is a storm in a teacup story that's been blown out of all proportion. I've said it before, this sport has alot more issues that need to be resolved, but instead people enjoy getting bogged down in tabloid sh*te like this.

    Sorry I wouldn't call the captain of United being found guilty and now having a criminal record a "storm in a teacup." I don't think it's being blown out of proportion at all.

    Just because he may play for the club you support does not mean you have to trivialise it.

    He's also made it a bigger deal himself by giving an unnecessary interview and drawing more attention onto it and himself.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,009 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Sorry I wouldn't call the captain of United being found guilty and now having a criminal record a "storm in a teacup." I don't think it's being blown out of proportion at all.

    Just because he may play for the club you support does not mean you have to trivialise it.

    He's also made it a bigger deal himself by giving an unnecessary interview and drawing more attention onto it and himself.


    He doesn't have a criminal record. By appealing the conviction was quashed.


  • Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    rob316 wrote: »
    I haven't listened to a minute of the interview or read an article on it, I was just saying its unheard of to do an interview before your found innocent. No PR firm would advise that and I doubt he got approval from the club either. You shut up until after your trial then you can be the hero in front of the camera or claim your innocence.

    Strange to have such strong opinions on something you've not engaged with...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Sorry I wouldn't call the captain of United being found guilty and now having a criminal record a "storm in a teacup." I don't think it's being blown out of proportion at all.

    Just because he may play for the club you support does not mean you have to trivialise it.

    He's also made it a bigger deal himself by giving an unnecessary interview and drawing more attention onto it and himself.

    It is of course trivial.

    FIFA is a corrupt mess. World cups are literally bought with bribes. Clubs and world cups (Quatar/Russia) are being used to sports wash owners/governments reputations. Racism and homophobia is only recently being addressed and its mostly on an optical level, not enough is being done.

    But one footballer, got into an altercation with police in a foreign country is a massive story. Priorities are all wrong there, but in a sport that brushes its major issues under the carpet, its not surprising that rag papers and fans (like moths to a light) just cant help make it into a massive scoop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,112 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    As a United fan I was fairly taken aback by Maguire in his interview

    He comes across as a weak willed character, a right gormless Rodney trotter type.

    Full English breakfast ignorant English on holidays type.

    I can’t see him being much of a motivating figure as a club captain.

    I’m leaning towards cutting our losses get him the hell out of United and off and gone then invest the money from his sale on decent prospects


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,112 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Just to say I believe ole is quite a weak manager too so the decision to get rid or not will be made way over his head


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭Sgt Pepper 64


    In these worrying times, he has provided some classic lines that even the two ronnies would wince at

    "I was afraid for my life"
    "Do you know who I am?"

    and who can forget the immortal "I thought I was being kidnapped"


    Brilliant


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