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Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    Would be great to think it's mutated to less dangerous.

    All colds and flus do this eventually.

    Yes it would indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    Some sort of restrictions in Dublin are now vital imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,797 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Very few in Dublin are outside of private households.

    Less than half are not associated with outbreaks.

    Mixing between households causing cases.

    Dublin cases are spread all across county.

    Dublin south (HSE area) is only region with similar incidence to rest of country.


  • Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    No.

    Google ‘viral load’.

    The precautions we’re taking, masks, hand washing etc. means that people are exposed to less of an initial ‘hit’ of the virus so the body can fight it more easily.

    Sounds dubious. When it get into your home how do you social distance from your family. Your probably infected before they have symptoms.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,515 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Some sort of restrictions in Dublin are now vital imo.

    €100 on the spot fines would help a lot to 'educate' some people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Sounds dubious. When it get into your home how do you social distance from your family. Your probably infected before they have symptoms.

    When it get, indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    54 schools out of 4000 have had cases. Most acquired outside of school, none have outbreak declared.

    Yep, in only one school there was one more additional person infected. So it’s not spreading in schools at all at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,797 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1303746627627294721?s=21

    Dublin now has highest incidence per 100,000 in the country


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,458 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Will someone please ask how it's Hunky Dory to open pubs now, when it wasn't earlier because of rising cases - even though the cases are higher now than they were then?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,487 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Very few in Dublin are outside of private households.

    Less than half are not associated with outbreaks.

    Mixing between households causing cases.

    Dublin cases are spread all across county.

    Dublin south (HSE area) is only region with similar incidence to rest of country.

    Makes sense to go with the Scottish approach by saying households don't mix because Glynn is clearly saying people mixing in houses is the issue.

    They're basically doing it now without saying it officially. Clear message is reduce contacts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,614 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Very few in Dublin are outside of private households.

    Less than half are not associated with outbreaks.

    Mixing between households causing cases.

    Dublin cases are spread all across county.

    Dublin south (HSE area) is only region with similar incidence to rest of country.

    So if they go a Glasgow way and just don't meet inside houses, it could be enough to curb the increase in cases and it's not that hard of a restriction to live with for a few weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,797 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Arghus wrote: »
    Will someone please ask how it's Hunky Dory to open pubs now, when it wasn't earlier because of rising cases - even though the cases are higher now than they were then?

    Because as Dr Glynn said, outside of Dublin most counties are incredibly stable. House gatherings are driving cases in Dublin. No pubs = more gathering, fairly simple.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    Yep, in only one school there was one more additional person infected. So it’s not spreading in schools at all at the moment.

    In fairness with incubation periods we don't know anything about spread within schools yet.

    Won't get a clear picture for a month or so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Parabellum9


    Arghus wrote: »
    Will someone please ask how it's Hunky Dory to open pubs now, when it wasn't earlier because of rising cases - even though the cases are higher now than they were then?

    Because the economy is crashing - it was all well and good to drag heels in June July and August but entering recession tends to rip those rose tinted glasses off. They haven’t a clue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,195 ✭✭✭political analyst


    The percentage of non-vulnerable people who got the virus and have survived and have serious symptoms is probably very low. After all, it's much less likely to cause death than the virus that caused SARS in 2002.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    307 cases yesterday 84 today highlights the daft way daily cases are reported now.


    RIP to the 3 that died, all confirmed as recent deaths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,797 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    “National restrictions introduced a few weeks back have stabilised things, with the exception of in Dublin and Limerick.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,487 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Arghus wrote: »
    Will someone please ask how it's Hunky Dory to open pubs now, when it wasn't earlier because of rising cases - even though the cases are higher now than they were then?

    Was addressed yesterday. Based on the rest of the hosptiality industry being open and no adverse affect from that NPHET decided pubs could open with the same guidelines as those already open


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,487 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Not exactly the time for christenings and gatherings in houses.

    https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1303748838067515397?s=19


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    So if they go a Glasgow way and just don't meet inside houses, it could be enough to curb the increase in cases and it's not that hard of a restriction to live with for a few weeks.

    Yep, christenings, communion and confirmation parties were mentioned. Most of these would’ve ended now probably (or have they?), so hopefully it won’t be too difficult for people to follow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,487 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Yep, christenings, communion and confirmation parties were mentioned. Most of these would’ve ended now probably (or have they?), so hopefully it won’t be too difficult for people to follow.

    Wouldn't be surprised if it was those events that are contributing to the household spread. Being singled out and mentioned for a reason


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,458 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Because the economy is crashing - it was all well and good to drag heels in June July and August but entering recession tends to rip those rose tinted glasses off. They haven’t a clue.

    The recession was entirely predictable based what had happened. It wouldn't have been a shock to a single economist or a member of the department of finance. I don't think government policy changed automatically when the formality of announcing the figures happened during the week.

    And I don't think a sector mainly staffed by low pay workers is as important overall to the general economy as you might think. But, of course, it's a sector that has enormous lobbying power.


  • Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Arghus wrote: »
    Gear up for more restrictions Dublin.

    The Dubs need to get a grip of themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭gazzer


    Those 3 deaths happened in the last few days but ICU numbers are stable and I don't see where the 3 deaths reduced hospital stays??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Wouldn't be surprised if it was those events that are contributing to the household spread. Being singled out and mentioned for a reason

    Won’t be long now until all the lockdown babies will having christenings!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Parabellum9


    Arghus wrote: »
    The recession was entirely predictable based what had happened. It wouldn't have been a shock to a single economist or a member of the department of finance. I don't think government policy changed automatically when the formality of announcing the figures happened during the week.

    And I don't think a sector mainly staffed by low pay workers is as important overall to the general economy as you might think. But, of course, it's a sector that has enormous lobbying power.

    It’s a sector that generates enormous profit which feeds back to the overall pot but easy to ignore that I suppose?


  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cases in Dublin coming from house gatherings.

    People think locking down businesses will help?

    Might as well get some petrol and a match.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,586 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Arghus wrote: »
    Will someone please ask how it's Hunky Dory to open pubs now, when it wasn't earlier because of rising cases - even though the cases are higher now than they were then?

    Optics. Schools had to open first.

    We are pretending that community spread isn't happening in the pubs and restaurants that are currently open.

    Everyone is getting infected off petrol pump handles.


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