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The other game this weekend - Does anyone even care Ulster v Connacht Build Up thre

  • 18-08-2020 2:57pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭


    Ulster v Connacht. Build up starts here


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    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Ulster v Connacht. Build up starts here

    How could you be making threads at a time like this. THERE'S A PANDEMIC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭ec18


    no one cares


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Should Ulster have to self isolate for 14 days? I think so. Connacht should get a walkover win here.


    *in before "well that's the only way they'll get a win". Yes, awec, I'm looking at you ��


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Good luck to our Western brethren. A good, spirited game of passion and skill - a display of all that is best about the sport. That's what I expect.

    Don't let those dirty boys in Blue and Red drag us down to their level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    In all seriousness, I am pretty nervous. And I don't think it's about missing some key players - Hendo, Addison and Baloucuone are all starters, but I think we'll be manage without them. It's simply about not having seen Ulster play in so long, and not knowing what to expect.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Typical Ulster...haven't played in almost 6 months and are still wrecked by injuries to key players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    bilston wrote: »
    Typical Ulster...haven't played in almost 6 months and are still wrecked by injuries to key players.

    Addison we've gotten used to playing without, anyway.

    Baloucoune's a loss, but I'm more frustrated for him than Ulster - we still have Lyttle, Faddes or Gilroy can start.

    Hendo's a massive absence, but Carter will be like a new signing. Time to see what he brings.

    I'd be more concerned if we were missing Coetzee or Cooney (although I'm excited to see what Mathewson brings).

    I suspect Marshall would be a huge loss as well - who steps in at 13 if he's out? Faddes? Marshall must have played more minutes than any other player last season bar perhaps Burns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    and not knowing what to expect.

    Is that not the norm with Ulster .......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Yes, but this season it had settled into "just how good will we be?" In previous years it had been anything from "have those fellas ever met before?" to "how the hell did they pull that off? Was that even on purpose?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    bilston wrote: »
    Typical Ulster...haven't played in almost 6 months and are still wrecked by injuries to key players.
    Well we want these games to be as close to normal as possible so Ulster wrecked by key players being injured is normal...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Yes, but this season it had settled into "just how good will we be?" In previous years it had been anything from "have those fellas ever met before?" to "how the hell did they pull that off? Was that even on purpose?"

    Dangerous thinking there, Paul. It's not the losing that will get ya...it's the hope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    So what happens now that outdoor gatherings are restricted to 15 people?

    Do the matches go ahead?

    And if so how are the broadcast. I was listening to OTB last night and the were saying Eir Sport need 30 people at the game to broadcast it. Then you throw officials and coaching teams and you probably aren't far off 90-100 people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    bilston wrote: »
    So what happens now that outdoor gatherings are restricted to 15 people?

    Do the matches go ahead?

    And if so how are the broadcast. I was listening to OTB last night and the were saying Eir Sport need 30 people at the game to broadcast it. Then you throw officials and coaching teams and you probably aren't far off 90-100 people.

    The all wouldn't be in 1 group. They could have pods of up to 15 people in different locations. Probably the main reason the Aviva was picked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    It's not only about Ulster absences but Connacht having their main team, so able to beat anyone.

    Except Roux and maybe O'Donnell if he proves good as he seems to be, we (based on last injury update) are full-strenght.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    connachta wrote: »
    It's not only about Ulster absences but Connacht having their main team, so able to beat anyone.

    Except Roux and maybe O'Donnell if he proves good as he seems to be, we (based on last injury update) are full-strenght.

    What does Connacht's first choice team look like this season?

    OTB were saying at the weekend that there has been a bit of a turnover of players since Feb/Mar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    bilston wrote: »
    What does Connacht's first choice team look like this season?

    OTB were saying at the weekend that there has been a bit of a turnover of players since Feb/Mar.

    We've lost probably our two most consistent players of the past few years, Fainga'a and Godwin, since the lockdown. Then lads in the back 3 like Niyi and Leader are gone too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    bilston wrote: »
    What does Connacht's first choice team look like this season?

    OTB were saying at the weekend that there has been a bit of a turnover of players since Feb/Mar.

    Buckley/McAllister
    Heffernan
    Beckham
    Roux
    Dillane
    Masterson
    Butler
    SOB
    Marmion/Blade
    Carty
    Healy
    Aki
    Robb/Farrell/DalyFarrellHealy
    Porch
    TOH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    Would look kind of this

    (only Roux/O'Donnell/SOB could have made it in the 23 at first IMO)

    1. Denis Buckley
    2. Dave Heffernan
    3. Finlay Bealham
    4. Ultan Dillane
    5. Gavin Thornbury
    6. Eoghan Masterson
    7. Jarrad Butler
    8. Paul Boyle
    9. Kieran Marmion
    10. Jack Carty
    11. Matt Healy
    12. Bundee Aki
    13. Tom Farrell
    14. John Porch
    15. Tiernan O’Halloran

    16. Shane Delahunt
    17. Paddy McAllister
    18. Dom Robertson McCoy
    19. Cillian Gallagher
    20. Conor Oliver
    21. Caolin Blade
    22. Conor Fitzgerald
    23. Sam Arnold


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    Pffft this thread isn't even getting a mention on twitter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    Pffft this thread isn't even getting a mention on twitter




    You prefer the other thread



    "A team you won't see again as everybody is absent with Ireland" VS "South Africa C" (after S-Af A -Sarries- and B -Sale-)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    Zzippy wrote: »
    Buckley/McAllister
    Heffernan
    Beckham
    Roux
    Dillane
    Masterson
    Butler
    SOB
    Marmion/Blade
    Carty
    Healy
    Aki
    Robb/Farrell/DalyFarrellHealy
    Porch
    TOH

    I didn't think Beckham had put on enough weight to play TH since retiring


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    I didn't think Beckham had put on enough weight to play TH since retiring

    :D:D

    Damn autocorrect!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    I say this to that Connacht team: pffft!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,117 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    connachta wrote: »
    16. Shane Delahunt
    17. Paddy McAllister
    18. Dom Robertson McCoy
    19. Cillian Gallagher
    20. Conor Oliver
    21. Caolin Blade
    22. Conor Fitzgerald
    23. Sam Arnold

    Fair to say the sub backs look stronger than the sub forwards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    aloooof wrote: »
    Fair to say the sub backs look stronger than the sub forwards?




    More physical, less mobile


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    So bad news, no Matt Healy, either De Buitlear, Wootton, or Sullivan on the wing
    Good (great) news : SOB integrated into training!
    Uncertainty (positive) : Roux not listed among the only 3 unavailable, maybe on the bench?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Pffft this thread isn't even getting a mention on twitter

    Tiwtter? Please. Dan McFarland has given an interview to directly assuage my fears.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53825325


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Here we go.

    https://twitter.com/UlsterRugby?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor


    Ulster team to play Connacht, Guinness PRO14 Round 14, Sunday 23 August at Aviva Stadium (kick-off 4.30pm, live on Premier Sports & TG4):

    (15-9) Jacob Stockdale, Craig Gilroy, James Hume, Stuart McCloskey, Louis Ludik, Billy Burns (Capt.), John Cooney;

    (1-8) Jack McGrath, Rob Herring, Marty Moore, Alan O’Connor, Kieran Treadwell, Nick Timoney, Jordi Murphy, Marcell Coetzee.

    Replacements: Adam McBurney, Eric O’Sullivan, Tom O’Toole, Sam Carter, Matthew Rea, Alby Mathewson, Ian Madigan, Michael Lowry.


    Interesting points: Burns captain. Carter and Rea maybe not quite ready to start after injuries. Stockdale at fullback. Hume ahead of Marshall? Gilroy ahead of Faddes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Here we go.

    https://twitter.com/UlsterRugby?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor


    Ulster team to play Connacht, Guinness PRO14 Round 14, Sunday 23 August at Aviva Stadium (kick-off 4.30pm, live on Premier Sports & TG4):

    (15-9) Jacob Stockdale, Craig Gilroy, James Hume, Stuart McCloskey, Louis Ludik, Billy Burns (Capt.), John Cooney;

    (1-8) Jack McGrath, Rob Herring, Marty Moore, Alan O’Connor, Kieran Treadwell, Nick Timoney, Jordi Murphy, Marcell Coetzee.

    Replacements: Adam McBurney, Eric O’Sullivan, Tom O’Toole, Sam Carter, Matthew Rea, Alby Mathewson, Ian Madigan, Michael Lowry.


    Interesting points: Burns captain. Carter and Rea maybe not quite ready to start after injuries. Stockdale at fullback. Hume ahead of Marshall? Gilroy ahead of Faddes.

    Poor Matt Faddes...it just hasn't worked out for him...yet bizarrely if you look at his try scoring rate it's really impressive.

    I wonder if Hume over Marshall is a selection call. Every Ulster fan loves Luke, but his passing range let's him down, Hume on the other hand is an excellent passer. Then again he isnt at Marshall's level defensively. Maybe its rotation, but then are we really rotating after a 6 month break. We won't know until we hopefully play in the semi final.

    Its a strong bench. Matthewson and Madigan make a big difference on that score.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,826 ✭✭✭b.gud


    Connacht team

    15. John Porch
    14. Peter Sullivan
    13. Tom Farrell
    12. Bundee Aki
    11. Alex Wootton
    10. Jack Carty
    9. Kieran Marmion
    1. Denis Buckley
    2. Dave Heffernan
    3. Finlay Bealham
    4. Ultan Dillane
    5. Gavin Thornbury
    6. Eoghan Masterson
    7. Jarrad Butler (c)
    8. Paul Boyle

    16. Jonny Murphy
    17. Jordan Duggan
    18. Jack Aungier
    19. Niall Murray
    20. Conor Oliver
    21. Stephen Kerins
    22. Conor Dean
    23. Tom Daly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    bilston wrote: »
    Poor Matt Faddes...it just hasn't worked out for him...yet bizarrely if you look at his try scoring rate it's really impressive.

    I wonder if Hume over Marshall is a selection call. Every Ulster fan loves Luke, but his passing range let's him down, Hume on the other hand is an excellent passer. Then again he isnt at Marshall's level defensively. Maybe its rotation, but then are we really rotating after a 6 month break. We won't know until we hopefully play in the semi final.

    Its a strong bench. Matthewson and Madigan make a big difference on that score.

    McFarland seems to trust Stockdale and Lowry at fullback and Hume at inside and outside centre, so Faddes' versatility doesn't give him the boost I imagined it would when he signed. Having said that, there's a touch of mix and match to this team, and I imagine next week will be the same.

    That's a very strong bench for us - and a massive step up in our bench halfbacks.We should be able to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,948 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    Looking forward to seeing Hume. Has he played at 13 for Ulster before?
    And Stockdale at FB again is very interesting. I wonder are they seriously considering him as a FB long term?
    I really like Ludik at FB. Just a solid dependable FB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Looking forward to seeing Hume. Has he played at 13 for Ulster before?
    And Stockdale at FB again is very interesting. I wonder are they seriously considering him as a FB long term?
    I really like Ludik at FB. Just a solid dependable FB

    Think Hume has played 13, maybe in Italy a year or so ago. He's a very good player.

    Stockdale was effective at 15 for Ulster in Europe. I like him there, he won't score as many tries, but thinking back to Quins away he created a couple for other players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    Personally think Ireland should look into 11 lowe 15 stockdale 14 larmour, when lowe becomes available. Hopefully stockdale shines at 15 but starting from next week.

    Connachts back three is very interesting. Wootton and Sullivan would be more physical wingers than what we’ve seen recently in Connacht


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,948 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    bilston wrote: »
    Think Hume has played 13, maybe in Italy a year or so ago. He's a very good player.

    Stockdale was effective at 15 for Ulster in Europe. I like him there, he won't score as many tries, but thinking back to Quins away he created a couple for other players.

    Ok. & i think people were saying here that he's a decent passer.

    Stockdale:
    I've never been impressed with him in the air. Is that unfair?
    Of course he also needs to improve defensively.

    His best weapon is his flat out speed and those lovely left foot chip aheads.
    I find it really strange that they want to relocate that threat from 11 to 15.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    There's never been an issue with his defence short of international level, and I think his frailties there are much exaggerated.

    I would concur with you about being in the air, though - he's fine. Lowry is half his size and just as good; Ludik is more assured.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    As in - hes only "fine".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭Scythica


    Man i can't wait for this match tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    Scythica wrote: »
    Man i can't wait for this match tomorrow

    It's like waiting for Christmas morning !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    So. Hors d'oeuvres done and dusted.

    Time for the real rugby.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭MarinersBlues


    I hope they have enough booing recorded for the synthetic crowd noise.

    They will need to have a few different tones and intensities of boo recorded to get the correct feel for an inter-pro.

    Really looking forward to getting a good boo going after 5 months off, even if it is while I'm on the couch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Connacht really ought to be disbanded or t least relocated to Wales for this.


    https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/1297544265174745088?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Connacht really ought to be disbanded or t least relocated to Wales for this.


    https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/1297544265174745088?s=19

    Himself and Steff Evan's should be publicly flogged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Eir TV working today. Huzzah!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Friendy casually catch loose kicks while doing a live interview with TG4 is the best


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,720 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Stockdale has had his share of dodgy barnets in recent times. He's gone the opposite way now and shaved it all off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Late Change for Ulster Rob Herring ruled out. Adam McBurney starts with John Andrew on the bench


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Fake crowd noise blaring during a supposed moment's silence.

    Retire this **** Eir.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    Bundee put on 6kg over lockdown, thought he was looking especially large from recent training photos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭launish116


    Bazzo wrote: »
    Bundee put on 6kg over lockdown, thought he was looking especially large from recent training photos.

    Marty Moore added some kgs by the look of it also!


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