Are there any credible conspiracy theories?

robinph

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119750284#Comment_119750284

The whole point of a conspiracy is that whoever is behind it has some motivation to achieve something, for good or bad, but there has to be some reason for what they are conspiring to do.

All that you have is "something weird happened that I don't understand". That isn't a conspiracy, and it is definitely not a credible conspiracy theory because you don't have even a shred of conspiracy happening.

The Nal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119749411#Comment_119749411

You've posted this maybe 50 times now.

How did they rig the buildings with explosives undetected?

King Mob

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119750532#Comment_119750532

Bizarre thing to claim "has some truth to it".

The chemtrial conspiracy was the notion that thousands of planes were secretly send up every single day over every country spraying stuff that was directly effecting people or spraying mind control drugs or something to do with keeping people from developing super powers.

Why wouldn't have people branded this idea crazy?

Not saying ivermectin works or doesn't but ...

How would it grant them exclusivity? It's off patent. Trials are expensive, and with no payoff no private company is going to waste money on a trial. This would have to be done by public sector, of which lots in South America did, with some promising results. Ignored in the west, yet they all jumped on a Bangladeshi mask study.

Did someone get exclusivity for dexamethasone? Don't think so.

The main point is that the vaccines would have lost emergency use authorisation in the US had it turned out there was an effective treatment. This was a massive incentive NOT to find an effective treatment. Nothing conspirational about any of this.

Does ivermectin work? We don't know because proper trials were never done.

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119750701#Comment_119750701

There was a study done in March among 3,500 patients which showed it didn't really have any effect.

That aside, the notion that there was a worldwide conspiracy against Ivermectin is classic appeal to motive, aka the conspiracy has been concocted almost entirely out of finding a motive.

Now maybe there is some global Ivermectin conspiracy, but you'd need to have direct evidence for it

Cheerful S

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119750656#Comment_119750656

Those who initiated this act knew only what they were doing. Their reasons for bringing towers and building seven down are unique to them.

The investigators analyzed these weird events separately in separate mainstream reports. If they are combined, the case for nanothermite is strong.

For weeks, temperatures reached a high level at ground zero. Thousands of gallons of water did not help put out the fires. People on the site reported that work shoes melted in certain areas because it stayed too hot;

There is an unexplained red liquid that was pouring out of the second WTC tower moments before it collapsed. Debunkers claim it is aluminum, which would be silver or whitish and not a red liquid. As we can see, there was an obvious melt in the area where the second tower collapsed and broke apart.

In fact, the video supports the claims made by workers, fire crews, and witnesses on the scene that a lot of steel was in the rubble and was melted. It is claimed by NIST that no one has ever seen molten steel. This is an absolutely false claim, and there are plenty of videos online where they make it.

RJ study was a mainstream study of WTC dust where they discussed the fact that millions of Iron Microspheres were produced by high-temperature effects. The RJ study does not discuss how this happened, but they assume it occurred because of fires in the buildings. It is clear in the report that these iron spheres were produced during and not after the event. As steel is an alloy, where is elemental pure iron produced? The study did not explain how it occurred inside the twin towers. Elemental Iron only forms at temperatures over 1400c.

A FEMA report from 2002 indicated that some of WTC7's steel had been chemically damaged. The rare event has never been fully explained. In an office building, we would not normally find this high amount of elemental sulfur in this way. FEMA had no explanation for where the free sulfur was. Future investigations were asked to investigate, but that never happened.

In addition, the government lied about the air quality and said it was fine, which led to a major scandal when people at ground zero developed cancers and heart issues. Some of these people were also found to have carbon nanotubes inside them. If carbon nanotubes were found in dust, they would demonstrate that nanothermite had been used here and contaminated the air and dust. 

The Nal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119751001#Comment_119751001

You've got the cart before the horse. As usual.

There can be no conspiracy theory if you cant explain how they rigged the buildings. And you can't. Case closed.

Cheerful S

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119751027#Comment_119751027

You have a theory that people could not enter a building when we know that some art students in Israel had put stacks and stacks full of boxes and filled entire rooms in the Twin Towers with them before 9/11. Did anyone report that before pictures appeared on the internet years later? Strange to me is that these art students were near the North Tower when the first plane hit. After 9/11, it was found that Mossad agents were posing as art students and college students to infiltrate US government buildings. 

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2002/mar/06/internationaleducationnews.highereducation

Israel may have had motives aligned with their neocon friends for demolishing the buildings. I keep an open mind concerning their involvement.

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119751001#Comment_119751001

Who's "they"?

All you do is keep trying to pour doubt on the facts in order to hint there's some "mystery" so you can wedge in your conspiracy theories that change every other week.

Now you're implicating the "Jews" again after a long stint blaming literal German "Nazis"

Do you have any idea how mad this all sounds to anyone reading this?

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119751027#Comment_119751027

The case can't be closed if someone keeps replying and recycling the same argument. Ergo the faithful keep doing it. The only reason 9/11 conspiracy theories still persist is down to one factor, stamina. A true fanatic will never give up.

The Nal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119751105#Comment_119751105

Yes 18 months before 9/11, an art prank.

So anyway talk us through how both buildings and WTC7 would have been rigged with explosives. Otherwise you have no theory.

For example, I think Mohamed Atta flew the plane into the north tower. Its possible because he knew how to fly a plane. Cause and effect. If it was proven that he didnt know how to fly a plane, then it couldnt have happened.

You cant even begin to explain how they could have rigged all the buildings. Because its impossible.

You've been asked about this dozens of times now and pathetically dodge it every time. You cant even find a snappy youtube clip on how it could be done. Because it cant be done.

Cheerful S

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119751173#Comment_119751173

As we know from arrests on day of 9/11, Israel had foreknowledge of the attacks. Mossad agents were outside watching over the scene when the attacks took place. Dancing Isreali fame watched the first plane hit the North Tower.

.They worked for Mossad front companies in Jersey New York. Then mysteriously everyone in the location disappeared days after 9/11. As a result of the FBI raid.

The Dancing Israelis were pulled from the van and held for weeks before being deported (two of the four occupants of the van were identified as Israeli intelligence agents). As in a movie, the men were caught, then everyone in this company just got out and left the business.,

It is very strange here months after 9/11, US authorities arrested 100 Israeli art students, a very high number, and deported them on the grounds they were infringing on US military installations and US government businesses. .

In light of 9/11 and what happened with the buildings here, some of them had explosive ordnance backgrounds, i find that interesting.

Israel had agents posing as fake art students, and there was an art project in the Twin Towers that allowed Israel to enter the building and transport nano-thermite materials. There are a lot of brown boxes stacked from ground floor to roof in one of these art group pictures from the 91st floor of the Twin Towers. I find it odd the whole room is so full of brown boxes. In an odd coincidence, the plane hit exactly where they are working on this project. There is something very odd about the room roof, which is exposed, and was not part of the project. There is supposedly a balcony being constructed out the window or something like that for a project stunt. What is the purpose of removing the room panels so that the fireproofing and steel can be seen?

There are only a few groups that could have done this. Mossad and Neo-Con would be one. I keep an open mind that other international bankers/fascists might have done it as well. Had to go with the best theory, Mossad did it with some Neocon assistance ..

This room has been stripped of its panels for some unknown reason? Can you see the steel pipes and fireproofing? What purpose behind that?

 

Cheerful S

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119751194#Comment_119751194

People would have noticed stuff being brought in, but nobody reported ever seeing boxes and boxes being unloaded and placed on the 91st floor. It makes no sense to fill the room with boxes from ground to ceiling, then remove the roof panels to reveal the building if you are building a wood balcony. In my opinion, the art project was a front for Israeli intelligence to get inside the building and prepare it ahead of time. 

robinph

Those who initiated this act knew only what they were doing. Their reasons for bringing towers and building seven down are unique to them.

So as stated then, you don't have a conspiracy theory, much less a credible one.

All you have is "I don't understand" of something. This thread being for credible theories to be presented then you continuing to post non-conspiracies about 9/11 just doesn't fit the thread.

Come up with a conspiracy, and make it credible, and there may then be something to discuss.

The Nal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119751297#Comment_119751297

OK, so how did they do it? Specifically.

Which floors were rigged, and whch parts of those floors?

How did they access all the other floors they would have needed to?

Is there any evidence these artists were explosives experts?

Did anyone else see them on any other floors?

Can nano thermite be placed 18 months in advance?

Can it be transported it cardboard boxes?

How much of it would've been needed to bring down 3 buildings?

We these guys seen in the other buildings?

Where are these guys now?

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119751247#Comment_119751247

You watched a TV show about Nazi's who went to the US and suddenly you changed all the perpetrators of your conspiracies to German "Nazis"

Now you've just changed it all again..

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119750804#Comment_119750804

Hadn't seen that study. Looks like a large well run and credible study, and indeed it shows no effect. Ofc a conspiracy theorist would say the study was set up for that purpose.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119751523#Comment_119751523

If a company pays for a trial and gets approval for the medicine for a new treatment then that company can claim exclusive use for that medicine for that treatment, so if merck (who produce Ivermectin) ran a trial they could have exclusivity on it for a period of time and no one else could market or prescribe Ivermectin for whatever that treatment was.

This was also possible with Dexamethasone, but I believe the trial was ran by the NHS in the UK (though they undoubtedly had sponsors) and much like the vaccines, were happy to supply it at cost during the pandemic (a lot of companies became altruistic during the pandemic supplying medicines, ventilators etc, a bunch of British politicians took advantage of PPE contracts to make a mint, now there's an actual conspiracy).

The Ivermectin grifters took in multiple of what it would have cost to run a trial during the pandemic, it was a money-making scam for some and a big pharma conspiracy for others (even though big pharma didn't even need to be part of it). It also helped to de-worm a lot of people where worms were prevalent (which would have improved their health). Unfortunately, unless their drinking water became sanitary, there would be little long-term benefit from it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119754664#Comment_119754664

Wasn't aware of the repurposing exclusivity.

I wonder about the likes of Dr Pierre Kory ruining his reputation on this one. He was one of the first promoters of dexamethasone for COVID patients before alighting on ivermectin.

Also stumbled across this article: https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/95726

the headline is a bit ironic considering the vaccine miracle drug doesn't stop you getting COVID either. And yes Pfizer did claim it prevented infection.

Again, it seems clear now ivermectin is useless against COVID - but the reaction to it in the media and the attached certainty of it's ineffectiveness when there was inconclusive evidence both ways gave it far more publicity than it deserved.

Thinkingaboutit

The HPRA purpose is to prevent Joe Soap getting a lower cost and identical medication rather than going via the rip off merchants of pharmacists and HSE (I suppose taxis to work for managers isn't for free). Because the completely identical medication is approved under a different name here, HPRA will get Customs to grab it. I suppose that doesn't count as a conspiracy theory, but how things work here generally. Nominally it is possible, but's made nearly impossible. Anyhow the HPRA are there to protect prosperous local golden circle types, as with other quangos and the State.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119754689#Comment_119754689

Pfizer produced mountains of data for the trials showing exactly what the vaccines were capable of based on trial data and the likely real-world impact of that given the known impact of reducing and eliminating symptoms on infectivity (and this proved true, but, scientifically, they didn't test for it in the trials because that wasn't one of the trial endpoints, scientific trials and how they run and endpoints is something that confuses a lot of theorists as has been seen in the vaccines thread), in addition, real world data was already flowing in from Israel by the time we started vaccinating, showing the impact on infectiousness. At that period of time, with the original variant, herd immunity was expected to be achieved with about ~60% of the population vaccinated, Delta changed that to ~80+ % due to its higher infectivity (R) and our immune system shedding coronavirus antibodies led to the waning efficacy against infectiousness, hence the need for boosters to keep it under control (especially for the elderly and vulnerable), boosters were being talked about as needed during the trials but frequency was unknown (~6-9 months for vulnerable, 1 year for others seems about right, though others are getting infected anyway, so it'll become like flu vaccine drives instead, targeting others to reduce the numbers rather than eliminate, I'll be interested in the real world data from the bivalent vaccines, expect trivalent+ vaccines in the future for COVID, or a "universal" vaccine).

Memory cell immunity remains strong (B and T-Cell) so most people can fight it off fairly easily but only really post infection by the time the antibodies have been produced by the immune system again. (and remembering that nothing prevents infection, the virus will still transfer latch on somewhere, "infect" someone and then be killed, sterilising immunity. like some vaccines provide, do this faster and before the virus has a chance to multiply, hence why a nose or respiratory vaccine may be better for infectiousness with SARS-COV2, albeit without as great an effect on severe disease when it gets deeper into the body/respiratory system).

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119754741#Comment_119754741

One thing I would say about Israeli or any other data was that none of it took into account waves of infection - huge spike, then subsiding to low levels = vaccine success, but this was the natural ebb and flow of infection anyway. This is not saying they didn't work or have some effect, but not taking this into account makes a mockery of any attempt to look at transmission or infection efficacy. The only real way to do that is to compare vaccinated vs unvaccinated in the same population.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119755024#Comment_119755024

That was taken into account, a lot of people miss that post vaccinations, a lot of lockdowns and restrictions also got removed, unless the country was chasing 0 Covid, also that the peaks didn't lead to anywhere near the same number of hospitalisations, which again, allowed further opening up (which also led to certs as the unvaccinated were multiple times more likely to end up in hospital, even in the lower age groups, so it was either remove restrictions slowly for all or faster for the vaccinated, most governments chose the latter).

It's why I say to people "come with the data" pointing to one point at a graph doesn't really mean anything unless all the conditions are taken into account, lots of revisionism is occurring this way (and memes created).

The Nal

Certainly credibility for a conspiracy around the death of Rudolph Hess. Been on a Nazi buzz at the mo. Not secret ones either.

A frail 93 year old commits suicide in 1987 and leaves a suicide note that was apparently written in 1969 when he was sick and thought he was going to die.

Theory is that he was going to reveal British atrocities during WW2. Apparently he had been speaking about it for a few years privately.

astrofool

Independent of COVID talk, why isn't there any CT around what trump has done or russia?

A lot of the theorists on here are falling into the trump supporter/russia sympathiser/COVID denier bucket, it's almost never a surprise to see those active on the COVID forum about restrictions et al and trying to twist data also get banned fairly quickly from the russia thread on CA.

Hoop66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119743515#Comment_119743515

This has been explained to you on more than one occasion. For the last time:

A bullet which is 6.5×52mm, tumbling end-over-end, can make a hole anywhere from 6.5mm to 52mm. So, the fact that the hole was 15mm and not 30mm is irrelevant. Please stop dragging this up as if it proves your theory. It doesn't.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119755185#Comment_119755185

How would he have any evidence of british atrocities considering he was in custody since 1941?

The Nal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119755562#Comment_119755562

Actually, it was more than he knew about plans to overthrow Churchill back in the day. Possibly related to this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940_British_war_cabinet_crisis

Hess was an arthritic shambles of a human when he died. Suicide is very possible of course but certainly enough in there for a rethink considering he was 93. And apparently couldnt lift his arms over his head.

Scotland Yard was given the names of British agents who allegedly murdered the Nazi Rudolf Hess in the infamous Spandau Prison but was advised by prosecutors not to pursue its investigations, according to a newly-released police report.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/adolf-hitler-s-nazi-deputy-rudolf-hess-murdered-by-british-agents-to-stop-him-spilling-wartime-secrets-8802603.html

The Nal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119755352#Comment_119755352

Cheerful assumes "tumbling" means an exact 90 degrees. He doesnt do fine points.

robinph

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119755562#Comment_119755562

And why would there need to be a conspiracy to kill off a 93 year old because of something they might possibly maybe reveal... But hadn't revealed so far.

Just wait for them to die, and if they do say anything just say they were old and going a bit daft.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119755779#Comment_119755779

Let us assume he did have such evidence. He didn't obtain this himself. So there had to be somebody else who gave the evidence to him. And how did they even manage that? He was probably the most watched prisoner on the planet. But what is the point of killing Hess? It isn't like he had any credibility or that anyone would believe him. He was dying soon enough anyway. It just doesn't pass the sniff test.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119755192#Comment_119755192

The Trump Russian collusion is an interesting one. Trump was supposed to be colluding with Russia to the extent that they - somehow - won him the 2016 election. Most of that turned out to be rubbish, based on rumours spread by the HRC campaign, but presented as fact at the time.

Even more so when you consider that Russia only went into Ukraine in earnest when Biden took charge. And the fact that Trump told the Germans exactly what dependence on Russian gas would result in, and they laughed at him.

In a way it's a shame we can't visit a parallel timeline where Trump won the 2020 election to see if Putin would have gone into Ukraine and if he had, what Trump would have done. Maybe it would be a smouldering nuclear hellscape, or maybe Trump would be saying what a "great person" Putin is. Who knows.

In this timeline, Biden and the West are weak, and the path we are currently on will lead to Russia using nuclear weapons.

This post sounds pro Trump - it isn't, I detest the man, it is more a criticism of the current Western governments. Zelenskyy has balls of iron in comparison.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119756804#Comment_119756804

While no one wants war in Ukraine, the west and NATO in particular, now have nothing to fear from russia, their armed forces have proven such an absolute shambles that NATO will be happy to supply Ukraine ad infinitum to reduce their army.

Even if russia decided to go nuclear, which they won't, the reprisals would be swift and decisive, even a "tactical" one-off nuke would spell the end of the current russian leadership with NATO only responding using conventional weapons.

I think putin might have waited longer if trump was there, but the same thing would have been done, trump was actively undermining NATO and reducing the US power abroad (N. Korea, Israel and russia ran rings around him and made him dance to their tune with a bit of fake praise).

In this timeline, Biden and the West are weak, and the path we are currently on will lead to Russia using nuclear weapons.

This isn't the reality we live in, and goes back to my earlier comment:

A lot of the theorists on here are falling into the trump supporter/russia sympathiser/COVID denier bucket

I'm no Russia sympathiser or COVID denier.

The west have a lot to fear from Russia.

Saudi Arabia are running rings around Biden.

North Korea are back firing missiles over Japan.

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119756804#Comment_119756804

 Trump was supposed to be colluding with Russia to the extent that they - somehow - won him the 2016 election.

Russia meddled with the 2016 US election. It's impossible to gauge the full scale of impact it had in terms of election result. Much of it was aimed in support of Trump

Most of that turned out to be rubbish, based on rumours spread by the HRC campaign, but presented as fact at the time.

It was true. I think you are possibly confusing it with the separate charge that Trump actively colluded with Russia. This was found to be not true (with caveats)

In this timeline, Biden and the West are weak, and the path we are currently on will lead to Russia using nuclear weapons.

This post sounds pro Trump - it isn't, I detest the man, it is more a criticism of the current Western governments. Zelenskyy has balls of iron in comparison.

The West/US/NATO could easily obliterate Russian forces in a conventional war.

We can't do that because it equals WW3, and we're all pretty much dead if that happens. Hence we have our hands heavily tied in this conflict.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757017#Comment_119757017

The west had a lot to fear from russia, all has ended up being unfounded, nuclear is all they have left and NATO will have everything positioned and pinpointed were they to try anything there (the GOP might try and make it a thing for the mid-terms).

SA are treading a fine line at the moment, with the world moving away from oil, their influence will wane, and the US has tar sands to fall back on if prices go too high (also possibly a conspiracy there over their $2bn to Kushner).

N. Korea are a failed state, they do this any time they need resources, if that missile actually hit anything, they'd be frightened about what to do and what would happen next (but let's be clear, they could cause a lot of trouble in S.Korea if they wanted to before they fell).

Dohnjoe

MBS had Khashoggi murdered and Putin had Skripal and Livinenko poisoned. Those are two conspiracies which I find very credible.

Cheerful S

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119755352#Comment_119755352

I'm sorry but you're uttering pure nonsense here. The single bullet theory is based on the theory that the bullet exits Kennedy throat and due to hit something tumbles out sideways and hits Connally at that angle. Carcano would have to leave 3cm wound for Single bullet theory make any sense

There is a reason that charlatans and liars who support the official story have been manipulating the medical evidence of Dr Shaw for years in books and writings. A 1.5cm wound would prove Connally' had bullet nose-on wound and be of a tangent shot.

A carcano bullet hitting sideways is very unlikely to cause a 1.5cm wound, as debunkers know, hence the promotion of the 3cm wound in pictures such as those posted here by Nal, 

How did Russia meddle in the 2016 election? Please explain. Everything I saw on all platforms was pro Hilary Clinton.

Cheerful S

For what reason did a leading 9/11 debunker admit NIST screwed up badly in their study? Are you convinced that it is not credible to accuse officials of negligence? My question is just a simple one!

You can dismiss the controlled demolition of building seven as nonsense if you do not consider government officials manipulating the structural design of the building as important.

In my opinion, NIST should be questioned if they are not doing their job properly rather than being left alone.

When we hear something we haven't heard before, we tend to doubt it. Did anyone in mainstream media mention to you that Rudi Dekkers was a Dutch gangster with CIA ties when he managed Huffman Aviation? Years later, he was busted for major drug trafficking. He was presented as a well-standing individual who just happened to train these hijackers on TV. What mainstream media not telling you this was Iran Contra type airport where drug smuggling went on. It seems like this was some kind of heroin operation from Afghanistan explains why all these guys on 9/11 ended up at Huffman aviation. The Barry Seal movie starring Tom Cruise illustrates how the CIA operates in reality, that the phone call from Bill Clinton was real to get him off the hook. All Presidents end up in some sort of scandal because they are corrupt as hell and have an underground world of espionage and dirty tricks, including 9/11.

There is no mention in the public of men carrying boxes through the lobbies of the WTC. In fact, those pictures show how easy it was to move stuff into those towers unnoticed. It seems suspicious because ceiling panels were removed without any reason inside the room. This makes no sense.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119758082#Comment_119758082

And what did you think of trump? And COVID?

Or even mentioned above, what happened to Sergei Skripal?

Hoop66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757650#Comment_119757650

I did not mention "The Single-Bullet theory" but based on your reply I don't think you even read the post.

You just return to your "gotcha" about the 3cm wound that was actually a 1.5cm wound.

Go back, read my post carefully and respond. Either that or remove yourself entirely from the discussion as you are not engaging in good faith.

The Nal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119759205#Comment_119759205

Have a look through the JFK thread. Hes absolutely hopeless.

Same on 9/11. Professional question dodger. A coward of a poster.

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119759861#Comment_119759861

Maybe it's one of you guys on an alt account with an extreme caricature of a conspiracy theorist to make them look especially bad. A conspiracy of one if you will ;)

The Nal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119759886#Comment_119759886

Even in trolling fantasy land I couldn't come up with something that good bad

Cheerful S

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119759205#Comment_119759205

Imagine creating a new type of bullet wound and claiming it is real. Bullets have dimensions and if a Carcano bullet hit sideways, it would have to create a puncture wound of the same size to pass through bone and flesh.

A bullet strikes Connally back in a sideways trajectory, and that's the theory used to demonstrate Oswald fired this bullet.

Researchers have left out that Connally's wound was 1.5 cm and instead claimed Connally's wound was 3 cm, the same length as Carcano bullet.

Nal even uploaded what they claim on another thread blissfully unaware of the lie. Read the entry wound description

Having just watched Vatican Girl on Netflix, there's clearly a huge amount of credible conspiracy around that.

It's not even questionable really.

Dohnjoe

That's another conspiracy I hear a lot from the likes of Alex Jones, that the "mainstream media" is all controlled.

There are hundreds if not thousands of outlets all over the world, does someone tell Swedish and Italian and British journalists what to report? Do they all have to be told at the exact same time to get the whole story right?

Or is it, as I suspect, just the usual case of a few conspiracy types cherry-picking some isolated stories or reports from decades of journalism from thousands of outlets in order to gaslight that all of it is magically controlled, and they haven't put much thought into it after that.

King Mob

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119799139#Comment_119799139

Again, bizarre rant from someone I've never interacted with before.

What credible conspiracy theories have been presented on this thread?

One of Cheerfuls?

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119799526#Comment_119799526

Good point, the CT'ers just run screaming when presented with facts. Even the bit you could read outside the paywall said it was a preprint, not reviewed and controversial. The full article goes into the reasoning behind this (one) study and what the issues are.

GQP'ers of course love to demonize Fauci, who saved millions of American lives despite their best efforts and the GQP making grift including frauds like Rand Paul.