Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

facehugger99

Stormyteacup wrote: »

I read desperation from that.

CMO knows government are losing compliance rapidly and he is understandably petrified about hospital crisis on horizon.

He shouldn’t be let on National television saying that though.

We badly need someone to take the reins on this thing.

Our national broadcaster is loving the interest his hysterical pronouncements generate.

facehugger99

Stormyteacup wrote: »

Reported on rte that there are 49 beds free in ICU and 299 general beds free for adults.

Is there still extra capacity available outside of this?

Wow - looks like we really made great use of that previous 6 month of lockdown - what a fcukin joke this country is.

Goldengirl

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

So i am to live for rest of my life (until a vaccine is found) assuming I have covid and can infect people? Will I pass this on to my children too? Or does covid go away after few years?

Why are you still spouting this utter rubbish months later ?
Do you not read or learn anything except whatever suits your agenda ?
You seem to have zero capacity to retain anything you have been told unless it's about Sweden or Belarus .
I sincerely hope you don't pass this ( lack of retention ) on to your children , as well as anything else !

MadYaker

facehugger99 wrote: »

Wow - looks like we really made great use of that previous 6 month of lockdown - what a fcukin joke this country is.

we can create ICU beds, we can't create doctors and nurses to look after the people in them

Goldengirl

MadYaker wrote: »

we can create ICU beds, we can't create doctors and nurses to look after the people in them

Exactly .

Ginger n Lemon

growleaves wrote: »

The request by the CMO is to treat every other human being as a biohazard. How many people, including pro-restrictions people, actually do that?

That is the request.

The most confusing thing is, if CMO is this noble person and he is afraid for our health, instead of trying to portray other people as biohazards and these contaminated vectors, so vigorously every day, why doesnt he just say "please stay at home"?

PS I dont treat other people as biohazards. In fact I am educated enough to remember HSE's advice very clearly, advice that has been forgotten by good few people here but i will re iterate it below

If you stay within 2 metres of someone for 15 minutes or longer you have a risk of catching covid if they are infected.

polesheep

MadYaker wrote: »

we can create ICU beds, we can't create doctors and nurses to look after the people in them

Of course we can. We can take more students into nursing and medicine. Your post is nonsense.

road_high

facehugger99 wrote: »

Wow - looks like we really made great use of that previous 6 month of lockdown - what a fcukin joke this country is.

All a waste of time. Nothing but idiots stuck in front of cameras chasing tails.
A political game used by our political class for max fear, control and attention. Little else

MadYaker

polesheep wrote: »

Of course we can. We can take more students into nursing and medicine. Your post is nonsense.

Yes and then it takes them how many years to get qualified? 4 - 5 for nurses and 6 + for doctors. That doesn't solve our current problem with the health system and coronavirus. We need them in the next few weeks not 6 years from now.

Ginger n Lemon

Penfailed wrote: »

How do you know that they're not saying that in other EU nations? Visiting one doesn't count. How fluent are you in French? Did you listen to the French equivalent of the CMO? No? Didn't think so.

Fluent.

French health minister announced today 7 day isolation period for confirmed covid cases as a result from their new research. (they actually say you are infectious only in first 3 - 4 days, but they went with 7 days advice for good measure)

pjohnson

polesheep wrote: »

Of course we can. We can take more students into nursing and medicine. Your post is nonsense.

You do realise its takes more than a few weeks to get qualified?

polesheep

road_high wrote: »

All a waste of time. Nothing but idiots stuck in front of cameras chasing tails.
A political game used by our political class for max fear, control and attention. Little else

We told the doctors and nurses who came home for the pandemic that we didn't have jobs for them and now some mad kayaker above is saying that we don't have doctors or nurses to operate extra hospital beds. I'm beginning to think that this forum is packed with government shills.

Ginger n Lemon

MadYaker wrote: »

Yes and then it takes them how many years to get qualified? 4 - 5 for nurses and 6 + for doctors. That doesn't solve our current problem with the health system and coronavirus. We need them in the next few weeks not 6 years from now.

Short term thinking. Are you banking on a vaccine? If not - covid will be with us for years to come. So yeah, actually, we do need some students to become qualified nurses and doctors.

We dont currently have a problem btw, 14 people in ICU with covid. Down from 155 in April.

road_high

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Fluent.

French health minister announced today 7 day isolation period for confirmed covid cases as a result from their new research. (they actually say you are infectious only in first 3 - 4 days, but they went with 7 days advice for good measure)

Good to see some countries still using scientific evidence for decision making rather than our “make it up as go along” approach

Goldengirl

MadYaker wrote: »

Yes and then it takes them how many years to get qualified? 4 - 5 for nurses and 6 + for doctors. That doesn't solve our current problem with the health system and coronavirus. We need them in the next few weeks not 6 years from now.

And good luck with having a newly qualified nurse or doctor be able to care for anyone in ICU...

polesheep

pjohnson wrote: »

You do realise its takes more than a few weeks to get qualified?

What about the doctors and nurses who came home only to be told that they weren't needed. And why not start training now? If we do then we can have more doctors and nurses in four to six years should anything else come about. But we won't, will we?

pjohnson

polesheep wrote: »

We told the doctors and nurses who came home for the pandemic that we didn't have jobs for them and now some mad kayaker above is saying that we don't have doctors or nurses to operate extra hospital beds. I'm beginning to think that this forum is packed with government shills.

Oh if you mean recruit them qualified thats different.

Thats not putting "students into nursing and medicine" like that poleysheep fella said.

polesheep

MadYaker wrote: »

Yes and then it takes them how many years to get qualified? 4 - 5 for nurses and 6 + for doctors. That doesn't solve our current problem with the health system and coronavirus. We need them in the next few weeks not 6 years from now.

No! We need to think long-term. Just for once.

Ginger n Lemon

polesheep wrote: »

We told the doctors and nurses who came home for the pandemic that we didn't have jobs for them and now some mad kayaker above is saying that we don't have doctors or nurses to operate extra hospital beds. I'm beginning to think that this forum is packed with government shills.

polesheep

Goldengirl wrote: »

And good luck with having a newly qualified nurse or doctor be able to care for anyone in ICU...

We saw plenty of pictures of them working in ICU at the start of this.

polesheep

pjohnson wrote: »

Oh if you mean recruit them qualified thats different.

Thats not putting "students into nursing and medicine" like that poleysheep fella said.

You're getting very confused.

Ginger n Lemon

I do have to say I've missed this thread a lot.

PJ great to see you are still around

So, it seems that there were 119 new covid cases in Dublin confirmed over last 24 hours. 3 people went to a hospital. 3 people who were previously confirmed having covid and sent to a hospital came out of it today.

You know what this means dont you? Dublin is now level 3. Museums, galleries must close in Dublin. I am very sorry but this is the government's new regulations as a result of listening to medical advice. Those Museums are infectious and they probably have covid on every door handle. and dont forget galleries. Galleries are the worst. :rolleyes:

pjohnson

polesheep wrote: »

You're getting very confused.

I should know better than to hold you guys responsible for anything ye say.

polesheep wrote: »

Of course we can. We can take more students into nursing and medicine. Your post is nonsense.

polesheep wrote: »

We told the doctors and nurses who came home for the pandemic that we didn't have jobs for them and now some mad kayaker above is saying that we don't have doctors or nurses to operate extra hospital beds. I'm beginning to think that this forum is packed with government shills.

normanoffside

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

They've recommended Level 3 for Dublin.

And below is actually a clear example of how dumb, sorry, stupid, ah what the hell, DUMB, how DUMB government and "restrictions" really are. below happens in Level 3.

"All museums, galleries and other cultural attractions must close. "

Please tell me, have there been any COVID OUTBREAKS in a fkn museum?? Or A GALLERY INFESTED WITH COVID? Contaminated National gallery of Ireland perhaps?

Seriously how can you "support" this?? Who is drafting up this absolute nonsense? Same lad who drafted up lockdown legislation and went to the golf party?

CLOSE THE MUSEUMS!

MadYaker

The government have made a total shambles of communication since MM took over and these increases are a direct result of that. They release a plan with levels at the start of the week and they can't even stick to it. Dublin going from 2.5 to 3.5 or whatever the fcuk it is. Is it any wonder people won't listen. NPHET have done their job but its our wonderful public representatives that have fcuked us again.

Penfailed

facehugger99 wrote: »

Wow - looks like we really made great use of that previous 6 month of lockdown - what a fcukin joke this country is.

You complain when beds are empty and other procedures aren't being carried out...and then complain when they are almost at capacity. You couldn't make up the faux outrage on this thread sometimes.

road_high

polesheep wrote: »

We told the doctors and nurses who came home for the pandemic that we didn't have jobs for them and now some mad kayaker above is saying that we don't have doctors or nurses to operate extra hospital beds. I'm beginning to think that this forum is packed with government shills.

I said at the time these people were nuts to come home based on hysteria- in my 36 years of life in this country I know for fact nothing government or state related is set in stone until you have a signed contract and started working in said state agency or service.
To fly back here on the musings and tweets of a clown like Simon Harris seemed nuts to me at the time. Unless you have a bird in the hand in this country so to speak then you have nothing. I’m sorry these people had to learn that the hard way but they were merely another propaganda piece for the likes of Harris back in March

Aren’t pubs open in level 3?

So pubs will open in Dublin if we move to phase 3?

Penfailed

polesheep wrote: »

Of course we can. We can take more students into nursing and medicine. Your post is nonsense.

It takes between 10 and 14 years to become a doctor.

xhomelezz

polesheep wrote: »

You're getting very confused.

only to read last few posts of yours tells me confusion is somewhere else.