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What road races are going ahead in 2020?

  • 05-06-2020 2:22pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,874 ✭✭✭✭


    An acceleration of the remaining phases announced today.

    It will be interesting to hear the relevant sorting bodies follow up to this in the coming days.

    My own opinion remains that racing will be able to commence after July 20th if clubs are willing to put them on.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    dahat wrote: »
    An acceleration of the remaining phases announced today.

    It will be interesting to hear the relevant sorting bodies follow up to this in the coming days.

    My own opinion remains that racing will be able to commence after July 20th if clubs are willing to put them on.

    I can't see anything other than TTs if it does for the first while. Pretty clear from Tony's talk last night that he has given up on people obeying restrictions and therefore they can't interpret spikes and what restrictions they relate too. i'd say he has told the government off the record to do what they want, there is F All point to it from an analysis perspective anymore. Hopefully we won't see a spike and if people wear face masks, have good personal hygiene and make a stab at social distancing, it might be OK, I really hope it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,874 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    New calender issued today by Cycle Ireland.

    A few will be pleased to see Mondello on but not for me, think i'll stay out of Dublin where possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,185 ✭✭✭nilhg


    dahat wrote: »
    New calender issued today by Cycle Ireland.

    A few will be pleased to see Mondello on but not for me, think i'll stay out of Dublin where possible.

    Mondello sitting squarely in the heart of County Kildare is well clear of Dublin, geography apart though if you've never raced there it is a unique experience (especially if it's raining)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,185 ✭✭✭G1032


    dahat wrote: »
    New calender issued today by Cycle Ireland.

    A few will be pleased to see Mondello on but not for me, think i'll stay out of Dublin where possible.

    Challenge CC starting their Thursday races this evening. Not sure if that's within a reasonable range for you Dahat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,185 ✭✭✭G1032


    G1032 wrote: »
    Challenge CC starting their Thursday races this evening. Not sure if that's within a reasonable range for you Dahat.

    Here's more info
    https://eventmaster.ie/event/y6KcP0SVy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,874 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    nilhg wrote: »
    Mondello sitting squarely in the heart of County Kildare is well clear of Dublin, geography apart though if you've never raced there it is a unique experience (especially if it's raining)

    My bad!!!!

    Yeah I've heard good & bad tbh but still not keen on heading there really. ( Disclaimer if I do get forced there by a mate)

    Collins lads are doing a road league so I'll likely use that for real life race practise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭JimmiesRustled


    dahat wrote: »
    My bad!!!!

    Yeah I've heard good & bad tbh but still not keen on heading there really. ( Disclaimer if I do get forced there by a mate)

    Collins lads are doing a road league so I'll likely use that for real life race practise.

    It's the safest circuit I've ever raced on aside from Corkagh park. Only issue I've had is chunks of rubber left over from a weekend of car/motorbike racing on the circuit, makes for some interesting cornering in the rain.

    Numbers in the past were reasonable enough, though that may not be the case now with everyone desperate to race. It'd likely be right up your alley, going by what you've said on the zwift thread about having a bit of a kick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭JimmiesRustled


    Already heard today of both sportives and races included on the rejigged calendar that were pulled today. I fully expect this to be a trend over the next 14 days. Once clubs fully look at and realise what's expected for an event now they won't be willing to risk losing a good chunk of money.

    I'm not surprised honestly. I can only speak for races as I haven't really done any sportives but trying to comply with the regulations for events over an hour in duration is going to difficult.

    Even from a venue standpoint, generally sports halls, there are maybe 1-2 toilets and a handful of urinals. Adequate facilities and just unfeasible as you'll likely have an enforced limited number on riders taking part.

    Clubs often lose money putting races on and that was before any pandemic. I can see it being a legal nightmare should someone fall ill at one of these events and decide to take it up and that's taking into consideration CI disclaimer that basically everyone is responsible for themselves.

    From speaking with a number of colleagues within our legal department, for our own club league, organisers need to cover themselves and not just fall under the CI umbrella and say "well CI said it was fine". They need to take a serious look at exactly what the likes of the WHO and other bodies state has to be in place for mass gatherings. That way they've some legal recourse should someone decide to take it to court.

    I'm not saying any of this would happen, but from those that have raced, and this is in no way meant as a slight against the organisers, do you really think the organisers would have a leg to stand on should the facilities stay the same? As in 1-2 cubicles for riders in 4 categories easily surpassing 100 people.

    It's overly pessimistic but the way things have gone lately with people suing for tripping in a forest, I can't see this being much different to be honest. Hopefully I'm wrong I'm just concerned for the organisers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,556 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    I presume they haven't just relisted all the events that were on the calendar pre-Covid where clubs didn't get back to them.
    My club had no events scheduled (all were during restrictions - we applied for (and got) a new date for an open race), but my impression is they did if they hadn't heard it was cancelled.

    I'm not signing up for anything more at this stage, given the issues people are having with refunds/ transfers. As well as personally not being ready for group activities - I'm a bit away from being comfortable even with club spins myself to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭wav1


    We have to try and looks like our weekend of racing on July 25/26 will be a litmus test as far as open weekend racing is concerned in leinster
    big points
    No on the day entry
    No on the day sign on
    No after race refreshments
    No presentation but we will give a full prize list but will get it to winners at later stage.
    No pre race venue..we will be advising where start location is and advising parking areas but bo big congregations in one main venue
    As I said we have to try and will require totally different mindset from all stakeholders


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,874 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    If possible could you post after both events with feedback on how they went from an organiser's view?

    I'd like to know how we as riders can assist on the day to help events go off with as little issues as possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭wav1


    dahat wrote: »
    If possible could you post after both events with feedback on how they went from an organiser's view?

    I'd like to know how we as riders can assist on the day to help events go off with as little issues as possible.
    Will do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭JimmiesRustled


    wav1 wrote: »
    We have to try and looks like our weekend of racing on July 25/26 will be a litmus test as far as open weekend racing is concerned in leinster
    big points
    No on the day entry
    No on the day sign on
    No after race refreshments
    No presentation but we will give a full prize list but will get it to winners at later stage.
    No pre race venue..we will be advising where start location is and advising parking areas but bo big congregations in one main venue
    As I said we have to try and will require totally different mindset from all stakeholders

    I 100% agree and really appreciate the work you guys put in year after year.

    We've done a risk assessment for our own league following the WHO guidelines which I'm happy to share with you guys.

    As I've previously stated I agree that it's completely over the top but I just don't want to see organisers getting messed about should a rider fall ill and take issue.

    I likely won't be racing myself due to an injury but, and I believe I speak for most here, if there's anything that you guys need help with just shout.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    wav1 wrote: »
    We have to try and looks like our weekend of racing on July 25/26 will be a litmus test as far as open weekend racing is concerned in leinster
    big points
    No on the day entry
    No on the day sign on
    No after race refreshments
    No presentation but we will give a full prize list but will get it to winners at later stage.
    No pre race venue..we will be advising where start location is and advising parking areas but bo big congregations in one main venue
    As I said we have to try and will require totally different mindset from all stakeholders

    You having a women's race Wav1?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭wav1


    eeeee wrote: »
    You having a women's race Wav1?
    Sorry not this one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    wav1 wrote: »
    We have to try and looks like our weekend of racing on July 25/26 will be a litmus test as far as open weekend racing is concerned in leinster
    big points
    No on the day entry
    No on the day sign on
    No after race refreshments
    No presentation but we will give a full prize list but will get it to winners at later stage.
    No pre race venue..we will be advising where start location is and advising parking areas but bo big congregations in one main venue
    As I said we have to try and will require totally different mindset from all stakeholders

    You know a lot of these changes are something that could be trialled post covid too. A lot of races have been dropped from the calendar in recent years and you hear reasons ranging from making losses to difficulty getting volunteers. These points address a lot of these while still allowing the main event (the racing itself) to progress fairly much as normal


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    This has turned more into a covid discussion thread.

    I for one would love to see a thread along the lines of the bargain thread which lists races and sportives that are verified to be going ahead. Something you can browse quickly to see what's on.

    I realise that's the job of the CI event calendars but they seem to be falling short on accuracy and trust at the moment. The idea of the events thread would be that organisers or those in the know can post once they are fairly sure they are going ahead

    Here is the next month, people can quote my post and either strikethrough the cancelled ones or CONFIRMED beside the ones they know are going ahead.

    Saturday, July 11th
    Kildare Time Trial Championships
    Sunday, July 12th
    Seven Springs CC TT 2020
    Tuesday, July 14th
    Mondello Series-Mondello Series CONFIRMED
    Wednesday, July 15th
    Foyle CC TT League-Round 2
    Friday, July 17th
    Oranmore GP
    Saturday, July 18th
    JG Memorial Road Race
    Sunday, July 19th
    EMSS Super Six League-EMSS Super Six Rd.1
    Michael Shiels RR
    Tuesday, July 21st
    Mondello Series-Mondello Series CONFIRMED
    Corkagh Park Women’s Race Series-Corkagh Park Women’s Race Series
    Wednesday, July 22nd
    Foyle CC TT League-Round 3
    Saturday, July 25th
    3R Mobility Paracycling Series
    Peter Bidwell Memorial 2020 CONFIRMED
    Sunday, July 26th
    Brendan Campbell Memorial 2020 CONFIRMED
    Tuesday, July 28th
    Mondello Series-Mondello Series CONFIRMED
    Corkagh Park Women’s Race Series-Corkagh Park Women’s Race Series
    Wednesday, July 29th
    Foyle CC TT League-Round 4
    Thursday, July 30th
    EMSS Super Six League-EMSS Super Six Rd.2


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    So I just started googling for sh1ts and giggles, maybe anyone who knows anything about the unconfirmed could weigh in.

    Saturday, July 11th
    Kildare Time Trial Championships - UNCONFIRMED but Entry open here -https://eventmaster.ie/event/bkAU9AHjr
    Sunday, July 12th
    Seven Springs CC TT 2020 - CONFIRMED Nice video here: https://www.facebook.com/Challengecyclingclub/videos/262736661819066/
    Tuesday, July 14th
    Mondello Series-Mondello Series CONFIRMED
    Wednesday, July 15th
    Foyle CC TT League-Round 2 UNCONFIRMED but I can't see anything on round 1 either
    Friday, July 17th
    Oranmore GP UNCONFIRMED
    Saturday, July 18th
    JG Memorial Road Race CONFIRMED FB post here https://www.facebook.com/events/310342273697222/permalink/315808156483967/
    Sunday, July 19th
    EMSS Super Six League-EMSS Super Six Rd.1 CONFIRMED https://www.facebook.com/pg/Ernie-Magwood-Super-6-Time-Trial-League-195032597199815/posts/
    Michael Shiels RR CONFIRMED https://www.facebook.com/pg/Newcastle-West-Cycling-Club-144679102380285/posts/
    Tuesday, July 21st
    Mondello Series-Mondello Series CONFIRMED
    Corkagh Park Women’s Race Series-Corkagh Park Women’s Race Series CONFIRMED https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Nonprofit-Organization/Corkagh-Pk-Womens-Racing-714933785622632/
    Wednesday, July 22nd
    Foyle CC TT League-Round 3 UNCONFIRMED
    Saturday, July 25th
    3R Mobility Paracycling Series UNCONFIRMED
    Peter Bidwell Memorial 2020 CONFIRMED
    Sunday, July 26th
    Brendan Campbell Memorial 2020 CONFIRMED
    Tuesday, July 28th
    Mondello Series-Mondello Series CONFIRMED
    Corkagh Park Women’s Race Series-Corkagh Park Women’s Race Series CONFIRMED
    Wednesday, July 29th
    Foyle CC TT League-Round 4 UNCONFIRMED
    Thursday, July 30th
    EMSS Super Six League-EMSS Super Six Rd.2 CONFIRMED https://www.facebook.com/pg/Ernie-Magwood-Super-6-Time-Trial-League-195032597199815/posts/


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    CramCycle wrote: »
    So I just started googling for sh1ts and giggles, maybe anyone who knows anything about the unconfirmed could weigh in.

    Saturday, July 11th
    Kildare Time Trial Championships - UNCONFIRMED but Entry open here -https://eventmaster.ie/event/bkAU9AHjr CONFIRMED*
    Sunday, July 12th
    Seven Springs CC TT 2020 - CONFIRMED Nice video here: https://www.facebook.com/Challengecyclingclub/videos/262736661819066/
    Tuesday, July 14th
    Mondello Series-Mondello Series CONFIRMED
    Wednesday, July 15th
    Foyle CC TT League-Round 2 UNCONFIRMED but I can't see anything on round 1 either
    Friday, July 17th
    Oranmore GP UNCONFIRMED
    Saturday, July 18th
    JG Memorial Road Race CONFIRMED FB post here https://www.facebook.com/events/310342273697222/permalink/315808156483967/
    Sunday, July 19th
    EMSS Super Six League-EMSS Super Six Rd.1 CONFIRMED https://www.facebook.com/pg/Ernie-Magwood-Super-6-Time-Trial-League-195032597199815/posts/
    Michael Shiels RR CONFIRMED https://www.facebook.com/pg/Newcastle-West-Cycling-Club-144679102380285/posts/
    Tuesday, July 21st
    Mondello Series-Mondello Series CONFIRMED
    Corkagh Park Women’s Race Series-Corkagh Park Women’s Race Series CONFIRMED https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Nonprofit-Organization/Corkagh-Pk-Womens-Racing-714933785622632/
    Wednesday, July 22nd
    Foyle CC TT League-Round 3 UNCONFIRMED
    Saturday, July 25th
    3R Mobility Paracycling Series UNCONFIRMED
    Peter Bidwell Memorial 2020 CONFIRMED
    Sunday, July 26th
    Brendan Campbell Memorial 2020 CONFIRMED
    Tuesday, July 28th
    Mondello Series-Mondello Series CONFIRMED
    Corkagh Park Women’s Race Series-Corkagh Park Women’s Race Series CONFIRMED
    Wednesday, July 29th
    Foyle CC TT League-Round 4 UNCONFIRMED
    Thursday, July 30th
    EMSS Super Six League-EMSS Super Six Rd.2 CONFIRMED https://www.facebook.com/pg/Ernie-Magwood-Super-6-Time-Trial-League-195032597199815/posts/


    * (I want to do this but the lack of car + Covid means I don't think I can ask for a lift anywhere :( Stupid lack of car :mad:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭JimmiesRustled


    eeeee wrote: »
    * (I want to do this but the lack of car + Covid means I don't think I can ask for a lift anywhere :( Stupid lack of car :mad:)

    I'll motor pace you out if that's of any help :D


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    I'll motor pace you out if that's of any help :D

    Sweet :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭elchupanebrey


    CramCycle wrote: »
    So I just started googling for sh1ts and giggles, maybe anyone who knows anything about the unconfirmed could weigh in.

    Saturday, July 11th
    Kildare Time Trial Championships - UNCONFIRMED but Entry open here -https://eventmaster.ie/event/bkAU9AHjr
    Sunday, July 12th
    Seven Springs CC TT 2020 - CONFIRMED Nice video here: https://www.facebook.com/Challengecyclingclub/videos/262736661819066/
    Tuesday, July 14th
    Mondello Series-Mondello Series CONFIRMED
    Wednesday, July 15th
    Foyle CC TT League-Round 2 UNCONFIRMED but I can't see anything on round 1 either
    Friday, July 17th
    Oranmore GP UNCONFIRMED
    Saturday, July 18th
    JG Memorial Road Race CONFIRMED FB post here https://www.facebook.com/events/310342273697222/permalink/315808156483967/
    Sunday, July 19th
    EMSS Super Six League-EMSS Super Six Rd.1 CONFIRMED https://www.facebook.com/pg/Ernie-Magwood-Super-6-Time-Trial-League-195032597199815/posts/
    Michael Shiels RR CONFIRMED https://www.facebook.com/pg/Newcastle-West-Cycling-Club-144679102380285/posts/
    Tuesday, July 21st
    Mondello Series-Mondello Series CONFIRMED
    Corkagh Park Women’s Race Series-Corkagh Park Women’s Race Series CONFIRMED https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Nonprofit-Organization/Corkagh-Pk-Womens-Racing-714933785622632/
    Wednesday, July 22nd
    Foyle CC TT League-Round 3 UNCONFIRMED
    Saturday, July 25th
    3R Mobility Paracycling Series UNCONFIRMED
    Peter Bidwell Memorial 2020 CONFIRMED
    Sunday, July 26th
    Brendan Campbell Memorial 2020 CONFIRMED
    Tuesday, July 28th
    Mondello Series-Mondello Series CONFIRMED
    Corkagh Park Women’s Race Series-Corkagh Park Women’s Race Series CONFIRMED
    Wednesday, July 29th
    Foyle CC TT League-Round 4 UNCONFIRMED
    Thursday, July 30th
    EMSS Super Six League-EMSS Super Six Rd.2 CONFIRMED https://www.facebook.com/pg/Ernie-Magwood-Super-6-Time-Trial-League-195032597199815/posts/

    I've signed on for the Oranmore GP, so that's going ahead unless there is a change in the next week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭duffyshuffle


    Anyone know if entry is open for Mondello yet or when it’s due to open?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    I've signed on for the Oranmore GP, so that's going ahead unless there is a change in the next week

    Is that the Athenry GP which also has entry on eventmaster open for July 17th ?

    Presume it is, do you know anything the circuit and overall distance ? Is it a crit or critlike ?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Is that the Athenry GP which also has entry on eventmaster open for July 17th ?

    Presume it is, do you know anything the circuit and overall distance ? Is it a crit or critlike ?

    I presume the same being both Galway based


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,874 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Entry done for Michael Shields road race, 70 only which is great.

    I do however think the season will be short-lived, not liking current trends of new cases at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭elchupanebrey


    Is that the Athenry GP which also has entry on eventmaster open for July 17th ?

    Presume it is, do you know anything the circuit and overall distance ? Is it a crit or critlike ?

    Sorry yes, it's down on the CI website as based in Oranmore for some reason, but down as an Athenry race. There is a strava link on their FB page for I think a 17km circuit as far as i know, but I'm not sure of the course besides.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I wonder will there be a grid start, I think it would look cool although it may bring other issues unrelated to Covid 19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,429 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    dahat wrote: »
    Entry done for Michael Shields road race, 70 only which is great.

    I do however think the season will be short-lived, not liking current trends of new cases at all.

    I also think that clubs might start pulling their races if the first few races end up with clubs losing a lot of money.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,874 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    I also think that clubs might start pulling their races if the first few races end up with clubs losing a lot of money.

    I may be wrong but I think it's gone beyond money making for clubs in this season. They are doing their absolute best to get races off the ground so profit isn't nessecarily the first line of thought.
    I personally am quite happy to pay extra to cover some loss by clubs once I'm happy with procedures on place to compete in a chosen race.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    There's a lot more now to it that pre-Covid I'd say. And I'd say no one wants to be responsible for starting a cluster...
    Maybe they're seeing how the first few go before they confirm their events.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I also think that clubs might start pulling their races if the first few races end up with clubs losing a lot of money.

    I could imagine a few turning away from open races this season and maybe making them open club league races, it would certainly relieve some of the pressure financially. No prize money, no commisaires, there are a few circuits that require very few marshals. Alot of us ride for just the race rather than points or upgrades, certainly something I am considering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    I also think that clubs might start pulling their races if the first few races end up with clubs losing a lot of money.

    Take the Michael Shiels. Two races with guaranteed 70 per race and less overheads than previous years (no food or hall fees for starters). It's hard to imagine it do less well off financially than previous years.

    Concerns are around covid and getting stick locally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭NCW13


    Take the Michael Shiels. Two races with guaranteed 70 per race and less overheads than previous years (no food or hall fees for starters). It's hard to imagine it do less well off financially than previous years.

    Concerns are around covid and getting stick locally.

    Worth noting that there are Hall Fees. Toilets still being provided. Just not providing a changing facility. Minor point of clarification.

    As race organiser, the biggest issue was ensuring that the local community were happy for the event to take place. Once they agreed the next issue was ambulance cover. That's a bigger issue as it turns out most have been mothballed and are not insured so we had to wait for the local crew to get an additional ambulance from elsewhere.

    And to ensure social distancing, there's a rather big hill !!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,874 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    NCW13 wrote: »
    Worth noting that there are Hall Fees. Toilets still being provided. Just not providing a changing facility. Minor point of clarification.

    As race organiser, the biggest issue was ensuring that the local community were happy for the event to take place. Once they agreed the next issue was ambulance cover. That's a bigger issue as it turns out most have been mothballed and are not insured so we had to wait for the local crew to get an additional ambulance from elsewhere.

    And to ensure social distancing, there's a rather big hill !!!!

    Could you post the route please?

    That big hill comment is frightening.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭NCW13


    dahat wrote: »
    Could you post the route please?

    That big hill comment is frightening.....

    Which race have you entered. Two different circuits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,874 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    NCW13 wrote: »
    Which race have you entered. Two different circuits.

    A3 race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭NCW13


    dahat wrote: »
    A3 race.

    PM me, and I'll send you map, but please don't publish it. Don't want riders living on circuit for the week. Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭wav1


    Demand for our races have high since entry opened on Monday.
    Peter bidwell memorial 9 spaces left
    Brendan Campbell memorial 25 left across 2 x races a1/a2 and a3jun
    A4 race not huge interest
    As per an earlier post we have promoted Brendan Campbell race in same village and circuit for 23 years but this year have brought it to a different circuit with less residinces etc and not passing through any built up areas..I have to live beside these people and don't wish to lose the support and goodwill built up over many years.so for this year quite happy to change


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Anyone know if entry is open for Mondello yet or when it’s due to open?

    It was on eventmaster over the weekend but is sold out now, sorry


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,874 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    How did Mondello go in terms of protocols etc?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    dahat wrote: »
    How did Mondello go in terms of protocols etc?

    I thought it was quite good, temp checks on the way in (which I think is a placebo but how and ever), social distancing was fairly good, with I'd say 85% compliance. Comms were good and clear, seen riders pull off to the side to blow snot rockets etc. so overall, it went as well as I could have hoped from my point of view.

    Downsides are that A3s are worse than A4s in regards cornering, holy f*ck. The obsession with pulling breaks going into corners was insanity. One lad grabbed a handful as we went down the descent into the 90 degree bend that has another 90 degree bend up the bump straight after. Thankfully I only had to scrub a bit of speed and just take a weird line but the inability of (most, not all) A3s to take corners well or carry speed was shocking. I think fear of sliding out was a factor but they were more likely to do this with the way they were riding. A few times I was being distanced and I came flying past again if we were near a corner with no extra effort. Disappointed I missed the break as I had been taking digs with those who made it for the first few laps. Got fed up with only a few of us working so when they went I didn't chase but by the time those with me realised, they had 20 seconds on us and were never caught by anyone. Wish I had made the effort and sprinted then but c'est la vie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,874 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    CramCycle wrote: »
    I thought it was quite good, temp checks on the way in (which I think is a placebo but how and ever), social distancing was fairly good, with I'd say 85% compliance. Comms were good and clear, seen riders pull off to the side to blow snot rockets etc. so overall, it went as well as I could have hoped from my point of view.

    Downsides are that A3s are worse than A4s in regards cornering, holy f*ck. The obsession with pulling breaks going into corners was insanity. One lad grabbed a handful as we went down the descent into the 90 degree bend that has another 90 degree bend up the bump straight after. Thankfully I only had to scrub a bit of speed and just take a weird line but the inability of (most, not all) A3s to take corners well or carry speed was shocking. I think fear of sliding out was a factor but they were more likely to do this with the way they were riding. A few times I was being distanced and I came flying past again if we were near a corner with no extra effort. Disappointed I missed the break as I had been taking digs with those who made it for the first few laps. Got fed up with only a few of us working so when they went I didn't chase but by the time those with me realised, they had 20 seconds on us and were never caught by anyone. Wish I had made the effort and sprinted then but c'est la vie.

    Good to hear the level of compliance from riders was good, alot rides on Mondello going well across the country.

    How did you feel the Zwift legs transferred to the road?

    I'm racing Sunday & wondering if the Zwift legs will hold or fold!!!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    dahat wrote: »
    Good to hear the level of compliance from riders was good, alot rides on Mondello going well across the country.

    How did you feel the Zwift legs transferred to the road?

    I'm racing Sunday & wondering if the Zwift legs will hold or fold!!!

    They didn't transfer at all, it felt like a typical early season race for me as if I'd done my normal winter of little training. No cobwebs but that's it. The A4s were full of riders who came off saying there was simply no comparison and Zwift greatly misled them and their capabilities.

    A3 was fine for me, and I held the A2 and A1 wheels as they came through but once I heard the time gaps on the 2nd last lap I let it go. I certainly was not going to be competitive in the sprint as I burned alot of matches early on trying to break up the group or catch the breakaway riders, so I decided to just roll in the last 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,874 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    I guess i'll look forward to falling flat then Sunday if Zwift was misleading us all as expected.

    It's a pity you didn't grab wheels to hang with the break when it went, something to build on next week for sure.

    As for Sunday there is a decent hill to dealt with a few times so not expecting much as i know there is a few very good riders entered so a follow wheels on the hill if i can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    dahat wrote: »
    I guess i'll look forward to falling flat then Sunday if Zwift was misleading us all as expected.

    It's a pity you didn't grab wheels to hang with the break when it went, something to build on next week for sure.

    As for Sunday there is a decent hill to dealt with a few times so not expecting much as i know there is a few very good riders entered so a follow wheels on the hill if i can.

    I know NCW didn't want the circuit published in advance but surely you can tell us the height gain and distance of the climb? Also is it early in the lap.or is there warm up time ? Hate races that start straight up a hill. ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭NCW13


    I know NCW didn't want the circuit published in advance but surely you can tell us the height gain and distance of the climb? Also is it early in the lap.or is there warm up time ? Hate races that start straight up a hill. ...

    Hill is at the end of the lap. Goes up 100m in 1.3km. Steepest part for 100m is 8%, otherwise 3 to 4%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,874 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    NCW13 wrote: »
    Hill is at the end of the lap. Goes up 100m in 1.3km. Steepest part for 100m is 8%, otherwise 3 to 4%.

    Thanks for the racing today, everything went well from a riders point of view. I hope the rest did as well.

    As for the race, got my ass handed to me on a tight circuit unfortunately!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭NCW13


    dahat wrote: »
    Thanks for the racing today, everything went well from a riders point of view. I hope the rest did as well.

    As for the race, got my ass handed to me on a tight circuit unfortunately!!!

    Appreciate your comments. All went really well. Locals embraced the race , Covid-19 style, couldn't have asked for a better response from public or riders. Thanks for being part of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    NCW13 wrote: »


    Appreciate your comments. All went really well. Locals embraced the race , Covid-19 style, couldn't have asked for a better response from public or riders. Thanks for being part of it.

    Yes. Locals really did embrace it. Fine weather helped but there were loads out in gardens cheering as it passed. And so little traffic you'd almost be forgiven for thinking it was a closed circuit.

    Don't go well from me personally but it was great to be back racing again and an enjoyable day out.


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