Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

Coillte_Bhoy

weldoninhio wrote: »

They are scared shytless that something bad will happen and they’ll be destroyed at the next election. FFG are the one party now pretty much, they kept SF out by the skin of their teeth this time. They are clinging onto power for dear life now.

You can’t run a country and an economy from under the bed thinking the sky is falling. They need to grow a spine, get everything open and have a plan in place for if cases start rising.

Skin of their teeth? LOL SF are about 20 seats short of being able to form any sort of stable Govt and they are largely supportive of the govt approach to Covid anyway.

Ronan|Raven

Don2012 wrote: »

O am so sorry to hear about your friend but we cannot let this government takeaway our freedom. These laws and restrictions are straight out of the communism playbook. This is very worrying, the control they have over us, the fact people are trusting them to make decisions for us, a government who are corrupt and do not have our best interests at heart.

Communism?! Ah here, I am worse for falling for this.

almostover

weldoninhio wrote: »

They are scared shytless that something bad will happen and they’ll be destroyed at the next election. FFG are the one party now pretty much, they kept SF out by the skin of their teeth this time. They are clinging onto power for dear life now.

You can’t run a country and an economy from under the bed thinking the sky is falling. They need to grow a spine, get everything open and have a plan in place for if cases start rising.

You do realise the only effective plan to rising cases is more restrictions, better to stay as we are with some business open than to have more cases and regress to having many businesses closed

stephenjmcd

Appearently its kitchen close at 11 so you can still be there until after 12.

MM stuttering his way through as per usual

Tenzor07

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

The Baco foil is in aisle 3.

Along with your €1 cans of cider you cheap stunt.

SEPT 23 1989

virginmediapls wrote: »

Absolutely vile, wishing the return of prohibition just because you are too socially maladjusted to let people enjoy themselves.

These types kick against the church the most but they are exactly the same

Replace one set of rules with another dressed up as health ,social justice and equality

At least you know where you stood with those lads in collars

Ronan|Raven

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

At least you know where you stood with those lads in collars

Where, the footpath?

Beechwoodspark

So if this level of cases is not “good enough” for pubs to be back open when will they????

Don2012

glasso wrote: »

That was an explosive full forward line but nothing to do with pubs and don't think any pub has as much space for distancing as the pitch.

Worst analogy I've seen in a while tbh

Really? Why are only 50 people allowed to gather at any other event but 200 at that? Well I think pubs are being deliberately targeted when airports never closed and restrictions and checks never applied there.

Coillte_Bhoy

hynesie08 wrote: »

But 200 spectators have been allowed in Croke park all along phase 3. The GAA just don't see the financial benefits of using it. If you're comment was leaning towards who had the service, believe me the CofI and the Catholic Church and the orthodox community are all expecting the same treatment if and when necessary......

What?

almostover

Don2012 wrote: »

I will comply to wearing a muzzle. They lower the immune system and effect breathing. Come wintertime many will not be able to fight the winter Flu because of this, but the "experts" already know this.

Where to begin with this heap of boll*x, we've being lowering the immune systems of surgeons and nurses for years so?

Fitz*

Fann Linn wrote: »

€9??

I'd assume so. I wasn't there. But how much social distancing was taking place at 1.00 am of a bank holiday? People don't go out for a meal at 12.30 at night, maybe a chipper on the way home but not the start of a night.

Extending opening hours of the kitchen just so you can stay open and serve alcohol until the maximum time is flouting the rules a bit. They only did it because it was race week.

Nothing will happen to that pub as they have their money made a few times over, and will continue to do so over the next few weeks and months but the guy who runs his pub by the book can't open out the country because he isn't selling a frozen pizza for 9e. Hasn't made a cent in months and won't again for a while longer.

gmisk

Enzo Narrow Tannery wrote: »

Whats different to a pub serving food at 3pm to 12am? The virus is either dangerous in doors in close settings or it isn't. The time of day doesnt matter.

I'm guessing 3 hours less pissed so less likely to forget hand washing, social distancing etc?

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Fitz* wrote: »

Feel sorry for some of the rural pubs who can't open to a few regulars. Especially in areas where there is no evidence of the virus in the area for weeks or months. Being punished for the actions of the cities.

The worst thing is there are large pubs who were taking the p1ss over the last few weeks. One pub in particular in Galway were serving food until 12.30 to enable people stay in the pub until 2.00 am. The curfew is needed IMO.

That's the problem. There's a huge difference between a small country pub where neighbours come together and people who would otherwise be isolated have a place to chat, watch TV, play cards etc: and, a city centre pub whose customers are mainly 20 somethings who've already got tanked up before they go out, couldn't care less about social distancing and will just move on somewhere else if that pub closes down. But the former are paying the price for the selfish behaviour of the latter.

drunkmonkey

gmisk wrote: »

Did I say once they had eliminated it?...no...clearly not....


Who knows when things will be back to normal but masks, hand washing etc can keep the numbers down here so hospitals can cope if there are spikes in the coming months.

Exactly you can't unless you control the borders our lockdown is being squandered. Control of the borders means mask would only be required for maybe a few weeks and we can go back to normal.

Our hospitals haven't coped in years, winter is looking like a complete calamity waiting to happen.

weldoninhio

Fitz* wrote: »

Because of pubs doing things like this.

https://twitter.com/anpucangalway/status/1288485696630657024?s=19

Once they’re following the rules who cares if they’re open til 2am.

Ronan|Raven

Don2012 wrote: »

Really? Why are only 50 people allowed to gather at any other event but 200 at that? Well I think pubs are being deliberately targeted when airports never closed and restrictions and checks never applied there.

200 people are allowed into events at the moment? The LOI for example.

Ohnononono

Thank god for enforcing the masks, so cases go from average 50 down to 30

Coillte_Bhoy

Don2012 wrote: »

Really? Why are only 50 people allowed to gather at any other event but 200 at that? Well I think pubs are being deliberately targeted when airports never closed and restrictions and checks never applied there.

its 50 indoors, 200 outdoors

Strumms

Don2012 wrote: »

I am so sorry to hear about your friend but we cannot let this government takeaway our freedom. These laws and restrictions are straight out of the communism playbook. This is very worrying, the control they have over us, the fact people are trusting them to make decisions for us, a government who are corrupt and do not have our best interests at heart.
Suicides have risen since this all started, mental health issues, they are to blame for all of this.

See how many suicides take place if deaths start rising through the roof.

Laws and restrictions are not out of a communism playbook. That’s a ridiculous thing to say . They are out of an ‘ohh shît, we are in an unprecedented situation never before seen in the history of the planet, let’s do our best’ playbook.

Another one throwing out the ‘mental health’ line, classy...

People need to suck it up, be part of the solution as opposed to the problem,
.

weldoninhio

weldoninhio wrote: »

Once they’re following the rules who cares if they’re open til 2am.

that's exactly why they changed the rules.

almostover

Bowlardo wrote: »

Over the last 5-10 years there is a continuous attack on country life between Garda station and post office closing.
Now they are coming from our pubs
GAA matches with limited numbers
Limited numbers at mass
And they still haven’t tested everyone.
It’s four months now... they whole country should have been tested to at least give people an idea if they had it or not

Testing everyone is not a viable solution, a test just means you dont have COVID-19 on the day of test. One could walk out of a test centre and catch COVID-19 on the bus home

weldoninhio

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Skin of their teeth? LOL SF are about 20 seats short of being able to form any sort of stable Govt and they are largely supportive of the govt approach to Covid anyway.

If SF had run another 20 in the last election it’d be Mary Lou at the podium. I’m not a SF supporter, I think they’d be horrendous in power. But FF and FG share the golden trough and have done since the inception of the state. Neither wants to be the one that gives that away.

hynesie08

Fitz* wrote: »

I'd assume so. I wasn't there. But how much social distancing was taking place at 1.00 am of a bank holiday? People don't go out for a meal at 12.30 at night, maybe a chipper on the way home but not the start of a night.

Extending opening hours of the kitchen just so you can stay open and serve alcohol until the maximum time is flouting the rules a bit. They only did it because it was race week.

Nothing will happen to that pub as they have their money made a few times over, and will continue to do so over the next few weeks and months but the guy who runs his pub by the book can't open out the country because he isn't selling a frozen pizza for 9e. Hasn't made a cent in months and won't again for a while longer.

See there's a pub near me that did a late night menu on Fridays and Saturdays, last food orders were 20 minutes before last drinks orders and food arrived in a box. It became our go to because you could drink till half 12,order food at 12.15 and eat your sausage and chips on the way to the late bar. Was it perfect, no, but it made a lot of money out of us, so if at 12, you're deciding between pub and chipper, why not have both.....

almostover

Dalton Scarce Bum wrote: »

That's the problem. There's a huge difference between a small country pub where neighbours come together and people who would otherwise be isolated have a place to chat, watch TV, play cards etc: and, a city centre pub whose customers are mainly 20 somethings who've already got tanked up before they go out, couldn't care less about social distancing and will just move on somewhere else if that pub closes down. But the former are paying the price for the selfish behaviour of the latter.

You cant have one rule for some pubs and other rules for other pubs. It's like Danny Healy Rae looking to get an exemption for drink driving for old lads in the countryside to have a few pints and drive home slowly. People from urban areas will flock to rural pubs if they are allowed open.

weldoninhio

gmisk wrote: »

I'm guessing 3 hours less pissed so less likely to forget hand washing, social distancing etc?

What if you are working til 10/11pm?

Coillte_Bhoy

weldoninhio wrote: »

If SF had run another 20 in the last election it’d be Mary Lou at the podium. I’m not a SF supporter, I think they’d be horrendous in power. But FF and FG share the golden trough and have done since the inception of the state. Neither wants to be the one that gives that away.

They ballsed up on their strategy thats fort sure, but im not sure they wouldnt have got another 20 seats though. Thought you were a SF man, my apologies

Fann Linn

Ohnononono wrote: »

Thank god for enforcing the masks, so cases go from average 50 down to 30

I think it was reported that in Belgium, where masks are mandatory the cases actually went up in contrast to their Dutch, never a care, neighbours, who have a more liberal attitude to same.

afro man

This from the same government tellin people to staycation in Ireland.. I can only imagine how many people would have booked staycations before kids back to school and planned them for after 10th August on belief pubs and hotel bars would all be open again..

SusieBlue

The audacity of the government imposing these illogical rules on us while allowing plane & ferry loads of tourists in from virus hotspots on the daily is beyond frustrating.

There are 26 European flights landing in Dublin airport alone between 8pm and midnight tonight, these cannot possibly all be Irish citizens repatriating after lockdown. Yet we can’t stay in bars/restaurants after 11pm and we have to buy a €9 sandwich, to ‘help the fight’ against corona.

How is this helping, and who is this helping?
This is going to be the nail in the coffin for many business owners and it’s extremely unfair that they are the ones suffering the consequences for the poor judgment and leadership of the government.

There is absolutely no logical reasons that pubs cannot safely open with 2 hour slots and table service, as food serving pubs and restaurants have been doing for the last month.
I would be apoplectic if I owned a pub right now, seeing my business be sacrificed while the country is full of tourists and the government are doing nothing to stop it.

The fact that they are allowing non essential incoming and outgoing travel while imposing all these nonsensical regulations is sheer stupidity of the highest order. Talking outside both sides of their mouth as usual.
What a total shambles.