Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

John O.Groats

Deleted User wrote: »

Another snitch who would report someone to the guards. Look pal you hide yourself under the bed. Someone will give you a shout when this pandemic is over. By the way i am sure we might squeeze a session in on Paddys day or even before it

Your standards are slipping old buddy. I expected a curtain twitcher or lockdown merchant comment in your reply. Do try and keep up.:):;)pac:

John O.Groats

John O.Groats wrote: »

Your standards are slipping old buddy. I expected a curtain twitcher or lockdown merchant comment in your reply. Do try and keep up.:):;)pac:

I can pass you on the eircode if you want. Your more than welcome to join the gang for a few scoops the next time we have a session

Pcgamer

John O.Groats wrote: »

Your standards are slipping old buddy. I expected a curtain twitcher or lockdown merchant comment in your reply. Do try and keep up.:):;)pac:

All you doing there is looking for some type of reaction from saviola.

PommieBast

Pcgamer wrote: »

Better off having the pubs open with strict regulations. 25% capacity or the likes.

Did toy with an idea along the lines of private members' club regulations that kept patrons to the same social circles, though I doubt it would have been workable in practice. Anyway the gov't shafted all the ones who spent a packet installing anti-Covid measures over the spring.

Dickie10

Just wondering why we beat ourselves up so much over having an alchol problem when we have a huge percentage of pioneers and tts in this country, plus look at how bad people are in France and Spain with raves and illegal parties and then they start rioting when police broke it up, same in stamullan in october a rave and all brazilians at ti. so we are most certainly not alone in having drink probllems. those coountroes are worse

Dickie10

countries

PTH2009

Having the pubs open is more for the social interaction something that's natural for us

Everyone has there own reasons and opinions on pub life. Somewhere to go for a few hours meet some friends celebrate/commiserate etc

StupidLikeAFox

Looks like they might be keeping some pubs open in England and Scotland

https://www.beveragedaily.com/Article/2021/01/04/BrewDog-offers-bars-and-pubs-as-COVID-19-vaccination-centres

PTH2009

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Looks like they might be keeping some pubs open in England and Scotland

https://www.beveragedaily.com/Article/2021/01/04/BrewDog-offers-bars-and-pubs-as-COVID-19-vaccination-centres

Only a piss take

No way work something like that happen in Ireland

hynesie08

PTH2009 wrote: »

Only a piss take

No way work something like that happen in Ireland

Why? You go in, sit at a socially distanced, sanitised table, the vaccine is taken out of the bottle fridges that are designed for minus temperature, wait your 15 minutes or so and exit through a different door than you came in. I can think of 15 pubs near me that would be a perfect pop up vaccination centre.

You did read the article didn't you? Nobody's gonna be getting served, you're not going for a vaccine, a carvery and 8 pints of snakebite......

PTH2009

hynesie08 wrote: »

Why? You go in, sit at a socially distanced, sanitised table, the vaccine is taken out of the bottle fridges that are designed for minus temperature, wait your 15 minutes or so and exit through a different door than you came in. I can think of 15 pubs near me that would be a perfect pop up vaccination centre.

You did read the article didn't you? Nobody's gonna be getting served, you're not going for a vaccine, a carvery and 8 pints of snakebite......

Tony won't like the idea

hynesie08

PTH2009 wrote: »

Tony won't like the idea

Ah yes, king Tony, hater of pubs and killer of craic, author of all your woes.....For someone who is constantly on about personal responsibilities, you love blaming him.

You called the idea a "piss take" it's not, it's a very solid idea that probably won't be necessary here, especially when we're at the level of dosage where gp's and pharmacists are involved, if a small town in the Midlands needs somewhere that can accommodate 50 with spacing and has cold storage, I Guarentee a large pub/GAA hall/function room will be considered.

El_Duderino 09

PTH2009 wrote: »

Only a piss take

No way work something like that happen in Ireland

Not so much a piss take as a publicity stunt. Brew Dog is notorious for its marketing campaigns. This one is just a semi-plausible idea that won’t be needed.

If they ran out of doctors surgeries, pharmacies, empty community centres, hotel function rooms, marquees, empty offices and any other large open space like gym sports halls, then pubs might be a good idea.

The uk has started using hotel function rooms as “nightingale courts” because they’re big, suitable for distancing and not being used at the moment. So they already have plans for this type of thing. If they ran out of hotel function rooms then pubs might be a good shout.

Amirani

pottokblue wrote: »

I was last in pub 19/12/2020 and am looking forward to going to pub again sometime 2021. I was talking to my southafrican cousin who has an offwork dose of C19 and in Southafrica they have curfew and no alcohol sales. If our gov was serious we should try a circuitbreaker 3-week prohibtion era close offliences as nonessential and shut the aclohol supermarket sections and see if it helps reduce spread...

pottokblue wrote: »

Like mandatory maskwearing it could be a mandatory two week dry january it might achieve ****all or it might help. Who knows unless they try it. Plenty of alcohol admissions in Dublin EDs precorona and alcohol at times plays a role in selfharm and domestic abuse. Nevertheless I think that pubs should have been reopened back in June 2021 but am hopeful of a march 21 pub pints.

I think the consensus is that South Africa's approach to things has been a failure, including the alcohol prohibition that has caused many issues.

Funnily enough, the people I've seen most vocally against an alcohol ban are doctors. There would be significant negative impacts on our health system if we were to have thousands of alcoholics suffering from withdrawal all at once, when our system is already in danger of being overloaded.

PommieBast

Amirani wrote: »

Funnily enough, the people I've seen most vocally against an alcohol ban are doctors. There would be significant negative impacts on our health system if we were to have thousands of alcoholics suffering from withdrawal all at once, when our system is already in danger of being overloaded.

Just as likely they know that there would be an immediate problem with bootleg booze.

Coillte_Bhoy

PommieBast wrote: »

Just as likely they know that there would be an immediate problem with bootleg booze.

And cross border shopping, not to mention online ordering, joke of an idea however well intentioned

El_Duderino 09

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

And cross border shopping, not to mention online ordering, joke of an idea however well intentioned

Nobody has seriously suggested doing it. The only ones I’ve seen seriously suggest it have been the VFI and other “open the pubs” people who want to tie all alcohol sales together so the pubs are reopened. There have been a few people who suggested it will happen as part of a puritan movement towards banning alcohol sales altogether. But they also tend to be the “open the pubs” people with a persecuting fantasy about a conspiracy theory where everyone is out to get the pubs.

Government hasn’t even mentioned it as a plan they’re considering or would consider. It’s

Coillte_Bhoy

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Nobody has seriously suggested doing it. The only ones I’ve seen seriously suggest it have been the VFI and other “open the pubs” people who want to tie all alcohol sales together so the pubs are reopened. There have been a few people who suggested it will happen as part of a puritan movement towards banning alcohol sales altogether. But they also tend to be the “open the pubs” people with a persecuting fantasy about a conspiracy theory where everyone is out to get the pubs.

Government hasn’t even mentioned it as a plan they’re considering or would consider. It’s

Ah i know its not serious option but it often gets an airing in threads like these

PTH2009

Feels so weird and a little frustrating seeing full pubs in movies/tv etc

Let's hope this way of life returns soon. Rightly so more important things will/need to come first

dominatinMC

PTH2009 wrote: »

Feels so weird and a little frustrating seeing full pubs in movies/tv etc

Let's hope this way of life returns soon. Rightly so more important things will/need to come first

Few friends sent me videos of the nightlife in Australia recently. To say I was envious would be an understatement! Only positive is that if it's happening in other parts of the world, it will happen here...eventually. But, as you say, more important hurdles lie ahead.

RocketRaccoon

dominatinMC wrote: »

Few friends sent me videos of the nightlife in Australia recently. To say I was envious would be an understatement! Only positive is that if it's happening in other parts of the world, it will happen here...eventually. But, as you say, more important hurdles lie ahead.

The wonders of a competent government and a nation of people who will listen to instruction and follow the guidelines.

dominatinMC

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

The wonders of a competent government and a nation of people who will listen to instruction and follow the guidelines.

And a country with control of its own borders, which helps a lot!

PommieBast

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

The wonders of a competent government and a nation of people who will listen to instruction and follow the guidelines.

Don't forget the rather authoritarian system of on-the-spot fines they have. Brother used to live out there and dog fouling wlil land you a $500 fine. Strictly enforced and not means-tested.

John O.Groats

PommieBast wrote: »

Don't forget the rather authoritarian system of on-the-spot fines they have. Brother used to live out there and dog fouling wlil land you a $500 fine. Strictly enforced and not means-tested.

Proper order.Should have been implemented and enforced here as well a long time ago.

fin12

John O.Groats wrote: »

Proper order.Should have been implemented and enforced here as well a long time ago.

Well they could actually start by having bins where u can put the dog sh*te in, signs for no dog fouling but I can walk a full circle walk by me prob about 5 miles and not a bin in sight to dump the sh*te. If u think someone’s going to carry a bag of sh*te with them for an hour , think again.

John O.Groats

fin12 wrote: »

Well they could actually start by having bins where u can put the dog sh*te in, signs for no dog fouling but I can walk a full circle walk by me prob about 5 miles and not a bin in sight to dump the sh*te. If u think someone’s going to carry a bag of sh*te with them for an hour , think again.

Actually you think again pal. I am involved with a local GAA club where a policy was introduced last summer where dog walkers on the grounds are required to clean up dog ****e after them. If any are caught not doing this they are banned from access to the club grounds if there is a dog with them. This is a fact.

PTH2009

So are we coming near the time where its proven Hospitality was not the issue ??

If say this time next month numbers are still high and Hospitality still been blamed then how would it be fair given it will of been closed over a month

John O.Groats

PTH2009 wrote: »

So are we coming near the time where its proven Hospitality was not the issue ??

If say this time next month numbers are still high and Hospitality still been blamed then how would it be fair given it will of been closed over a month

Hospitality not the issue? What planet are you living on? Restaurants and gastro pubs packed during December many of them not observing the Covid regulations, many wet pubs opening on the sly not to mention the absolute fcukwits having house parties or drinking in shebeens. A huge cause of why we are now in this utter ****show.:(

fin12

John O.Groats wrote: »

Actually you think again pal. I am involved with a local GAA club where a policy was introduced last summer where dog walkers on the grounds are required to clean up dog ****e after them. If any are caught not doing this they are banned from access to the club grounds if there is a dog with them. This is a fact.

Is there a bin?

delly

PTH2009 wrote: »

So are we coming near the time where its proven Hospitality was not the issue ??

If say this time next month numbers are still high and Hospitality still been blamed then how would it be fair given it will of been closed over a month

Well I've only one personal knowledge of somebody contracting covid and it happened in a restaurant. Person I know was at a table of 4 when an old pal from another table came over for a catchup for 15 minutes. A few days later the person I know got the notification of being a close contact. Turns out the old pal had covid and all people at the table got it, all individual households. My friends family of 5 all subsequently got it. Not sure how all infections were recorded, but 12 to 15 all from that eating trip. Government guidelines and personal choices led to this, which would not have occurred if closed.