Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

hynesie08

PTH2009 wrote: »

easier to go into a pub alone than a restaurant/food pub

If NPHET decide 'no lads you can't open the wet pubs, numbers are too high and will only get higher. We advise 3 more weeks infact don't open them til 2021. Cant be having Christmas celebrations' and then the government take that advice.

There would be war and rightly so

War? There'd be a hashtag and a Facebook moan, that's it, we don't do anger very well in this country.....

hynesie08

ShooterSF wrote: »

Even in that scenario all I'm guaranteed is 2 hours. Maybe I book somewhere else at 9 to be certain if theres somewhere near by and you as a publican go from, in the worst case, having say 6 x 6 tables in a space to 3 x 3 tables or 25% of your capacity.
I might be wrong, I'm just saying I've been in the industry half my life and I don't see how the 2m scenario will work out better anywhere when you are given 1m with a time limit as an option instead...

Nfl games are 3 hours
Live music
Birthday night out.

There are many reasons why pubs will go for the 2m, if it makes sense for them. Some might have enough room to mix and match. Some won't have that option, some won't take it, but it's just that. An option.

MrStuffins

PTH2009 wrote: »

There would be war and rightly so

Lol!

No, some people would complain on a thread on the internet. Apart from that, nothing would actually happen!

Xenji

hynesie08 wrote: »

Nfl games are 3 hours
Live music
Birthday night out.

There are many reasons why pubs will go for the 2m, if it makes sense for them. Some might have enough room to mix and match. Some won't have that option, some won't take it, but it's just that. An option.

There will be no live music when they open according to the Independent today.

hynesie08

Xenji wrote: »

There will be no live music when they open according to the Independent today.

I can see publicans contesting that if they can keep 2m distance, but they won't be cramming 7 lads into a booth in the cobblestone anytime soon.

PTH2009

They should stick to the date and not go back . Not fair on publicans and workers, stock has been ordered, hours divided out etc

What other industry has been given an opening date only for it to be constantly changed and for reasons to do with stuff outside of the country ?

The Nal

Xenji wrote: »

There will be no live music when they open according to the Independent today.

No music full stop, or just live music? Its not clear. Indo article says music and then live music.

hynesie08

The Nal wrote: »

No music full stop, or just live music? Its not clear. Indo article says music and then live music.

If you can't put on a playlist behind the bar it's a ****ing wetherspoons

Xenji

The Nal wrote: »

No music full stop, or just live music? Its not clear. Indo article says music and then live music.

I took it as live music, but then they also said about the volume of TVs having to be low so people are not having to talk over it, so that to me would point to no or very low music.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

No music, no bands, no talking to people, no sports, stay in your cubicle, no going up to the bar, sit down in the smoking area.

Sounds like fun.

stephenjmcd

Hunky Monster wrote: »

No music, no bands, no talking to people, no sports, stay in your cubicle, no going up to the bar, sit down in the smoking area.

Sounds like fun.

Background music is fine and sports is fine just keep the volume low.

Irish Aris

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Background music is fine and sports is fine just keep the volume low.

Although I think I understand the logic behind it, I can't see how this will work practically.
I go to the pub with my best friend couple of times a month to watch Premier League matches and we had one occasion that the volume was low (or completely off, can't remember exactly) - I do recall though that neither of us could get into the game, zero atmosphere, and we said never again.
Frankly if they try to enforce that, I'd rather go to a food pub with volume on or stay at home and watch.

MrStuffins

Hunky Monster wrote: »

no talking to people, no sports,

I see the gloom-merchants STILL aren't happy and are now actually just making stuff up to give out about now.

Pretty pathetic!

I already have a booth booked for 5:30 pm on Saturday to watch Liverpool v Leeds. It's gonna be great!

PTH2009

This virus knows when the music is too loud

Sneaky Gollum like bastard

ShooterSF

weldoninhio wrote: »

Would depend on the place. I know my mate has booked a place for his birthday next week for us. They said we’ve the table from 5-9, (we may have to give a second contact name at 7) and might have to move out to the terrace after that until closing.

See that doesn't sound like they are doing the 2m thing but rather trying to break the rules on the 1m time limit. I can see pubs doing that before going 2m tbh.

hynesie08 wrote: »

Nfl games are 3 hours
Live music
Birthday night out.

There are many reasons why pubs will go for the 2m, if it makes sense for them. Some might have enough room to mix and match. Some won't have that option, some won't take it, but it's just that. An option.

Possibly! I would be surprised is all.
Birthdays could be very interesting with max of 6 to a table and no intermingling! Can see them still happening in houses for now...

gmisk

https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/how-am-i-famous-i-brought-the-alarm-clock-so-id-get-home-in-time-for-the-news-meet-the-pensioner-in-viral-pub-photo-39516211.html?__twitter_impression=true

Not sure if it's been posted but this is about the photo of the oul fella with the clock in the pub that went viral
Turns out he was timing himself and he wanted to get back for the news.
Sounds like a really decent sort.

"To hell with the feckin' pubs, health is more important. I mean, if that (coronavirus) spreads again, we're all in trouble."

Fitz*

Irish Aris wrote: »

Although I think I understand the logic behind it, I can't see how this will work practically.
I go to the pub with my best friend couple of times a month to watch Premier League matches and we had one occasion that the volume was low (or completely off, can't remember exactly) - I do recall though that neither of us could get into the game, zero atmosphere, and we said never again.
Frankly if they try to enforce that, I'd rather go to a food pub with volume on or stay at home and watch.

Watching a match with no commentary or music playing over it is horrible. It's harder to gauge the glow of the game.

TCDStudent1

hynesie08 wrote: »

I can see publicans contesting that if they can keep 2m distance, but they won't be cramming 7 lads into a booth in the cobblestone anytime soon.

Whenever the topic of pubs re-opening comes up, always think of the Cobblestone. It's a pub that will really struggle with the re-opening due to its layout.

hynesie08

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Whenever the topic of pubs re-opening comes up, always think of the Cobblestone. It's a pub that will really struggle with the re-opening due to its layout.

There's a few like it unfortunately, hopefully they squirelled away enough in the good times to ride this storm out. One of the only tourist bars a dubliner will have no issues sending you to.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

MrStuffins wrote: »

I see the gloom-merchants STILL aren't happy and are now actually just making stuff up to give out about now.

Pretty pathetic!

I already have a booth booked for 5:30 pm on Saturday to watch Liverpool v Leeds. It's gonna be great!

Do you know what's pathetic, its people like you who are happy to be manipulated and controlled. Like I said 6 months ago here on boards, the gov will take all your freedoms and only give you so many back and chumps like you will be delighted with it. It's a power grab, nothing more. It's absolutely pathetic that you're dancing up and down with delight because you can get a creamy tasty and delicious pint even though what you're in isn't a pub from 6 months ago, its a step above a prison cell that happens to sell pints, that's pathetic. Show some balls and stop being a little grateful good citizen delighted that the government is now allowing you one of lifes little pleasures that we could have had anytime 6 months ago. Pathetic.

MrStuffins

Hunky Monster wrote: »

manipulated and controlled.....

the gov will take all your freedoms....

It's a power grab.....

its a step above a prison cell.....

Ok Alex Jones!

I thought this was a thread about pubs, not about conspiracy theories. Here is not the place for such paranoid delusions. Certainly not the place to be making things up to suit your fear-based agenda.

When Covid goes away, we will get our old pub experience back and it will be delightful! We're taking the first steps to getting there on Sept 21st, fingers crossed!

hetuzozaho

Hunky Monster wrote: »

No music, no bands, no talking to people, no sports, stay in your cubicle, no going up to the bar, sit down in the smoking area.

Sounds like fun.

No drunks coming up to talk to me (with their conspiracy theories). Table service so I'm not standing round waiting for my tasty creamy pints of Guinness. No rubbish music. No acoustic covers of Oasis and the Killers. Maybe a match with sound low. Maybe a book.

Sounds like fun.

Roll on the 21st :pac:

Hunky Monster

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Do you know what's pathetic, its people like you who are happy to be manipulated and controlled. Like I said 6 months ago here on boards, the gov will take all your freedoms and only give you so many back and chumps like you will be delighted with it. It's a power grab, nothing more. It's absolutely pathetic that you're dancing up and down with delight because you can get a creamy tasty and delicious pint even though what you're in isn't a pub from 6 months ago, its a step above a prison cell that happens to sell pints, that's pathetic. Show some balls and stop being a little grateful good citizen delighted that the government is now allowing you one of lifes little pleasures that we could have had anytime 6 months ago. Pathetic.

A power grab, nothing more? Let me guess, the virus is a hoax?

TomTomTim

MrStuffins wrote: »

Ok Alex Jones!

I thought this was a thread about pubs, not about conspiracy theories. Here is not the place for such paranoid delusions. Certainly not the place to be making things up to suit your fear-based agenda.

It's honestly not wise to blindly support, or at least not question, the whims of our leaders when our rights are being trampled on. Even if you think they are just in doing so, you should constantly be questioning the strengths of your rights. If nobody questions these things, it's very easy to fall into tyranny. Ireland has been one of the most extreme countries in relation to these standards, so people are completely right to wonder about the intent behind it all. If people throughout history had a mindset like yours, we'd have never progressed; as criticism and skepticism is how we've progressed throughout history, not blind support.

MrStuffins

TomTomTim wrote: »

It's honestly not wise to blindly support, or at least not question, the whims of our leaders when our rights are being trampled on. Even if you think they are just in doing so, you should constantly be questioning the strengths of your rights. If nobody questions these things, it's very easy to fall into tyranny. Ireland has been one of the most extreme countries in relation to these standards, so people are completely right to wonder about the intent behind it all. If people throughout history had a mindset like yours, we'd have never progressed; as criticism and skepticism is how we've progressed throughout history, not blind support.

Who said they're not being questioned? There's questioning and then there's complete hysterics! (Also, the poster just started making stuff up about not being able to watch sport and not talk to other people).

There's a whole forum here for that stuff. This thread is about the opening of the pubs.

You can question things without being one step away from checking to see if your barman in a lizard in a human skin suit!

Thelonious Monk

Remember you could buy booze in a Spar till 1230 for a year or two? Or when on Thursday's you could get a pint till 1230?
They'll use this pandemic to cut drinking hours going forward as much as possible.
What is it with this government and nannying us with booze? Who pushes this agenda?

The Nal

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Remember you could buy booze in a Spar till 1230 for a year or two? Or when on Thursday's you could get a pint till 1230?
They'll use this pandemic to cut drinking hours going forward as much as possible.
What is it with this government and nannying us with booze? Who pushes this agenda?

It was to discourage, err, drinking I think.

But it actually encouraging binge drinking. And also adds to traffic. I regularly have to make two trips to the shops. One in the morning for food and then one later for booze. Even though I walk past the booze I want in the same shop in the morning. Firing up the old diesel engine again.

Its a ****ing bananas law.

Thelonious Monk

The Nal wrote: »

It was to discourage, err, drinking I think.

But it actually encouraging binge drinking. And also adds to traffic. I regularly have to make two trips to the shops. One in the morning for food and then one later for booze. Even though I walk past the booze I want in the same shop in the morning. Firing up the old diesel engine again.

Its a ****ing bananas law.

Sure why not let us all drink as much as we like? Which is a bigger strain on the health service and more costly to the state i wonder. All of us tee totalling and living till we're 100 or dying of liver disease in our 60s?

MrStuffins

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Remember you could buy booze in a Spar till 1230 for a year or two? Or when on Thursday's you could get a pint till 1230?
They'll use this pandemic to cut drinking hours going forward as much as possible.
What is it with this government and nannying us with booze? Who pushes this agenda?

I remember working in pubs as a kid and the pubs had to close at 11pm, if i'm remembering correctly. It wasn't until 2000 that the bars were allowed open til 12:30am at the weekend. (please correct me if i'm wrong).

Also, there was a "holy hour" where booze couldn't be served between 2pm - 4pm on a Sunday. That was abolished in 2000 too.

It works both ways!

Although I agree with you on the off licences. Stopping the sale of booze at 10pm is silly! It just inconveniences people who have to go to the shop earlier!

FlubberJones

I hope the boozers are given the chance to open, I simply want the option to pop for a swift couple or three and then head home... rather than having to fill my face with 9 quid of crap and have a pint that I'm then too full to enjoy.