Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

kevthegaff

blackdog1 wrote: »

Up untill the end of october it was 4.23fat 3.67 protein. Cow currently milking 23 litres @4.71 fat 3.85 protein. I'll hopefully finish the year at 3.7% protein supplied and 4.3% fat. I would also like to add that that milk price included a 5.6c winter bonus. So while I might have the highest milk price I might not be the most profitable.

23 litres some going

mf240

What are the dry cow tubes called that have no withdrawal after calving.
Think someone was talking about them last year on here .

jaymla627

mf240 wrote: »

What are the dry cow tubes called that have no withdrawal after calving.
Think someone was talking about them last year on here .

Cephaguard used here is 24 hours on label, but it's basically zero withdrawal have charm tested cows biestings here and was always clear

Mooooo

They're part of the group that will be first to be pulled from use

Grueller

mf240 wrote: »

What are the dry cow tubes called that have no withdrawal after calving.
Think someone was talking about them last year on here .

What are most of them.in terms of withdrawal?

mahoney_j

Mooooo wrote: »

They're part of the group that will be first to be pulled from use

New fourth generation drug local coop won’t sell them snd some vets slow to give them out as they don’t want widespread use and want it kept in reserve .using it a few years and will continue ,super drug

Mooooo

Grueller wrote: »

What are most of them.in terms of withdrawal?

Generally 60 to 84 hours. Some also need more days. The one the lads are talking about above I think is 35 days, + 24 hrs when calved. Cepravin I think is 56 days + 84 hours. Thats off the tip of my head so check the info leaflets to be sure. Take note of the ones your using on different cows etc. Also be careful as if 2 tubes are put in to the one quarter by accident it can increase the withdrawal times.

Mooooo

mahoney_j wrote: »

New fourth generation drug local coop won’t sell them snd some vets slow to give them out as they don’t want widespread use and want it kept in reserve .using it a few years and will continue ,super drug

Yeah but I believe those ones will be totally pulled from the market soon as they are off greater importance in terms of amr

Injuryprone

Anyone who's serious about anti-microbial resistance shouldn't be using 3rd or 4th generation cephalosporins

alps

Injuryprone wrote: »

Anyone who's serious about anti-microbial resistance shouldn't be using 3rd or 4th generation cephalosporins

Why not?

mahoney_j

alps wrote: »

Why not?

Far more should/needs to be done on responsible and correct usage of antibiotics for years they have been misused by not using enough or too much or not using full course needed ,thereby reducing there effectiveness chlorine was same excellent cheap product but too many didn’t use it right and now there’s restrictions

alps

Say my name wrote: »

Ye''ll have to Google translate this one.

Norwegian couple receive a grant of €38,000 and then install a delaval milking robot. In doing so they increase the milking herd from 13 cows to 14 cows.

http://www.felleskjopet.no/alle-artikler/alle-artikler-fra-samvirke/lykkelig-som-liten/

More power to 'em.

Great story...

And able to get a grant on second hand equipment?

Oops...forgot...outside EU

straight

Keep on pumping it out lads and lassies.

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/milk-output-predicted-to-reach-9-5-billion-litres-by-2027-teagasc/

jaymla627

straight wrote: »

Keep on pumping it out lads and lassies.

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/milk-output-predicted-to-reach-9-5-billion-litres-by-2027-teagasc/

I wonder did it dawn on them yet that even if derogation was maintained that any new cap will in all likelihood automatically exclude any farmer at over 170kgs/ha organic n, so this extra land needed will be costing stupid money to rent when the landowner will want his 200 euro plus a acre rental fee plus the balance of what sfp he could of drawn down....
They really shouldn't be making any assumptions our predictions till derogation is actually renewed which is a big if, and how the new cap program will affect how land can be rented

Gawddawggonnit

straight wrote: »

Keep on pumping it out lads and lassies.

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/milk-output-predicted-to-reach-9-5-billion-litres-by-2027-teagasc/

Dairy porn...!!

Gawddawggonnit

jaymla627 wrote: »

I wonder did it dawn on them yet that even if derogation was maintained that any new cap will in all likelihood automatically exclude any farmer at over 170kgs/ha organic n, so this extra land needed will be costing stupid money to rent when the landowner will want his 200 euro plus a acre rental fee plus the balance of what sfp he could of drawn down....
They really shouldn't be making any assumptions our predictions till derogation is actually renewed which is a big if, and how the new cap program will affect how land can be rented

You’re not well informed Jay, inhibited urea will sort out the derogation *and* water polluted with nitrates. There was always going to be a magic bullet.

Birdnuts

straight wrote: »

Keep on pumping it out lads and lassies.

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/milk-output-predicted-to-reach-9-5-billion-litres-by-2027-teagasc/

What does one expect from a pig but a grunt??!!:rolleyes:

Water John

Wondering have posters looked at Project Clover? This is the plan by the major processors to provide biomethane for milk processing.
They talk of 125 AD Plants each needing 22,000t of grass. Paying €30/t.
It is partly modelled on a French Programme called 4P1000.

Mooooo

We export a lot. Dairy and beef. But as overall producers we are well back the pecking order. Plenty countries in Europe produce more than us. Easy to jump on and blame when ag is the only thing where the exporting country is hammered. All the countries exporting cars, oil energy etc landed the consumer with the blame. Been on farms in Europe and the UK, making out any issues are solely Irish issues is a load of bollix tbh

Birdnuts

Water John wrote: »

Wondering have posters looked at Project Clover? This is the plan by the major processors to provide biomethane for milk processing.
They talk of 125 AD Plants each needing 22,000t of grass. Paying €30/t.
It is partly modelled on a French Programme called 4P1000.

I'd be rather sceptical that after the growing, harvesting and transporting of that grass whether any "CO2" savings actually occur versus NG from the grid. Supplying such plants with "Brown Bin" waste may have more merit but either way alot of money and other government supports will be needed for it to see the light of day

jaymla627

Water John wrote: »

Wondering have posters looked at Project Clover? This is the plan by the major processors to provide biomethane for milk processing.
They talk of 125 AD Plants each needing 22,000t of grass. Paying €30/t.
It is partly modelled on a French Programme called 4P1000.

It's not financially viable unless the EU started giving out extremely generous grants towards building and running these ad plants , 5 million capital cost for each plant plus the crazy running costs to produce a energy source that's over 500% dearer then the natural gas per kw they are using at present

rounders

Hey lads, looking to get a decent pair of wellies for the father. Anyone have a pair they would recommend?

Came across a thread from 9 years ago and dunlop purofort were the recommendation

alps

jaymla627 wrote: »

It's not financially viable unless the EU started giving out extremely generous grants towards building and running these ad plants , 5 million capital cost for each plant plus the crazy running costs to produce a energy source that's over 500% dearer then the natural gas per kw they are using at present

500%??

Birdnuts

alps wrote: »

500%??

Probably - the worldwide price of NG has basically collapsed since hitting a peak in 2008 on the back a vast increase in supply via fracking, major new finds in Africa, the Med etc. Indeed major oil producing nations like Nigeria continue to burn of vast quantities of it as its not worth putting any more on world markets at current prices.

Castlekeeper

rounders wrote: »

Hey lads, looking to get a decent pair of wellies for the father. Anyone have a pair they would recommend?

Came across a thread from 9 years ago and dunlop purofort were the recommendation

They're only fit for muzzling a calf, if you want your father shod to the standard his station deserves try here...
http://thewellyshop.com/wellies/le-chameau-wellies.html

Wildsurfer

Castlekeeper wrote: »

They're only fit for muzzling a calf, if you want your father shod to the standard his station deserves try here...
http://thewellyshop.com/wellies/le-chameau-wellies.html

If he's anything like me he'll drive the pike through the toe of them in the first week...

jaymla627

rounders wrote: »

Hey lads, looking to get a decent pair of wellies for the father. Anyone have a pair they would recommend?

Came across a thread from 9 years ago and dunlop purofort were the recommendation

Skellerup are agreat wellies, dairygold have 35 euro of them at present on their coop superstore site usually around a 100 euro for 65

Gary kk

Wildsurfer wrote: »

If he's anything like me he'll drive the pike through the toe of them in the first week...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/FLZONE-Bicycle-Adhesive-Puncture-Suitable/dp/B089GFYBZZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=bike+patch+kit&qid=1606473003&sprefix=bike+pat&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyTDVPTFRJN0pTTVpJJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzgxNjc5TENJVkVUVVRPNFlZJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAzNjI1ODAxSkJYR085U1hBOVU0JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

Got you covered

jaymla627

alps wrote: »

500%??

In our around 2 cent per kw its costing for natural gas at a dairy processing plant at present, in our around 15 cent per kw is the breakeven price per kw produced by a AD plant, if you think about the sheer amount of diesel burned to keep a AD plant running be it drawing in silage/maize/slurry, then drawing back out digestate and slurry it's just simply green washing at its finest so a nice PowerPoint presentation can be given by the likes of Siobhan Talbot about how their heading towards been carbon neutral for 2030 our whatever timeframe they have agreed too

alps

jaymla627 wrote: »

In our around 2 cent per kw its costing for natural gas at a dairy processing plant at present, in our around 15 cent per kw is the breakeven price per kw produced by a AD plant, if you think about the sheer amount of diesel burned to keep a AD plant running be it drawing in silage/maize/slurry, then drawing back out digestate and slurry it's just simply green washing at its finest so a nice PowerPoint presentation can be given by the likes of Siobhan Talbot about how their heading towards been carbon neutral for 2030 our whatever timeframe they have agreed too

Green washing would be an accurate description.

It's fair to point out that what the corporates behind this project clover want, are the emmissions offset that this gas can supply.

In their own words...farmers can export the slurry and we can claim the emmissions offset....