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How much money do you have left over at bills are paid

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    #122
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    thomasdylan wrote: »
    I'd love to know what area he works in. End year surgical Spr doing 90-100 hours a week in neurosurgery or something like that is the only way I can see it happening. I'd say I know a few more doctors than you do and I don't think any of them hit over 100k in their 20s and thats with a heap of overtime.

    Salary scales are published. It's impossible to get through a training scheme in Ireland and be a consultant in your 20s. You graduate at 23/24 then intern, basic and specialist training and research and fellowship. Best case scenario is probably consultancy at early 30s. More realistically late 30s.

    You can get through GP training in your 20s but won't be on 120k.

    Can't say, but not GP.


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    #123
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,433 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Contracting - there are QS' who are self employed in construction, and they get hired in and work alongside the full time QS' on salary for the big firms in Dublin. They are making a bomb but the spotlight is on them, more is expected, and you can guarantee they will be the first ones let go if **** hits the fan. Once you have served your purpose you are gone.

    True story: A very experienced man in the above in his 50s, won one of the top 3 construction contractors in ireland €160m worth of work just before Covid, 2 substantially large landmark projects in Dublin. He singlehandedly poured his heart and soul into the tender to win it. Once Covid came they kindly showed him the door and now he's sitting back at home doing his own thing again. After 4 years freelancing/hired into them. He's not complaining that much though as he's flat out again, sort of man that will never be out of work.
    Is IT like this when you go between contracts? It's different as obviously IT is thriving at the moment, construction is experiencing a periodic dip in some sectors.

    Another example - I can sit on my €60K salary here in Dublin. Or I could go to europe - holland/sweden etc to work on a data centre on the technical cost side next week and get paid €130K, just like that. Accomodation paid for, rotational flights, 1st 5 years is 25% tax free in Holland.
    But would I be any happier? My family is here, my partner is here (we've no kids and aren't married). Me moving there would probably put our relationship in jeopardy as I'd only be home every 2-3 weeks. We'd get our house we want with my salary on that scale. But I could miserable as f*ck in Holland/Sweden!

    Contracting and international roles suits some people - single/don't really bother with their family or have no interests here.

    I'm happy at the moment, my friends would laugh at me and jump at the chance to double their salary, but it doesn't guarantee any happiness, in fact there'd be more stress and risk.
    Sounds similar to myself tbh.


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    #124
    [Deleted User]
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    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Contracting ......................

    Another example - I can sit on my €60K salary here in Dublin. Or I could go to europe - holland/sweden etc to work on a data centre on the technical cost side next week and get paid €130K, just like that. .................

    I'm happy at the moment, my friends would laugh at me and jump at the chance to double their salary, but it doesn't guarantee any happiness, in fact there'd be more stress and risk.

    Would you chance contracting for €130k in Dublin though with a sniff of 4/5 years of work?
    I reckon you would.
    Most skilled folk can go somewhere and earn decent cash........... even teachers can go to the UAE etc etc and get a decent wedge.


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    #125
    gourcuff
    Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭gourcuff


    married, no kids yet, homeowner,

    about 2,300 personally if we have a normal month expenses wise - but travel home alot of weekends and that can cause a dent...


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    #126
    thomasdylan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 514 ✭✭✭thomasdylan


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    Can't say, but not GP.


    He's either bluffing or hitting at least 80-90 hours a week every week.


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    #127
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    Augeo wrote: »
    Would you chance contracting for €130k in Dublin though with a sniff of 4/5 years of work?
    I reckon you would.
    Most skilled folk can go somewhere and earn decent cash........... even teachers can go to the UAE etc etc and get a decent wedge.

    I would but those roles don't exist for someone my age and experience in Ireland ha! That's why they're literally throwing money at you to go across Europe. Also have sydney, dubai, west coast USA positions but they won't pay the accommodation out there, you're left to your own devices.


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    #128
    JimmyVik
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    CBear1993 wrote: »
    I would but those roles don't exist for someone my age and experience in Ireland ha! That's why they're literally throwing money at you to go across Europe. Also have sydney, dubai, west coast USA positions but they won't pay the accommodation out there, you're left to your own devices.


    A few years ago I took 6 months off from my steady job in Ireland. They kept it for me while I was gone. I went to Dubai. Got accommodation paid for, flights paid for return every 2 weeks home. And made €120k tax free.Arranged it all through an IT agency in London.



    I often thought of doing it again, but its not the nicest place to be for more than a week or two. Dont know why people bought property over there back in the day.


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    #129
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    Nearly everyone on here seems to be IT industry. I know it’s very broad. But obviously there are people that are very good at it I.e. programming or are all the roles well paid once you’re in and show any sort of drive and determination?


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    #130
    all the bais
    Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭all the bais


    I sleep in a big bed with my wife


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    #131
    gailforecast
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    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Nearly everyone on here seems to be IT industry. I know it’s very broad. But obviously there are people that are very good at it I.e. programming or are all the roles well paid once you’re in and show any sort of drive and determination?

    Not every role. Developers aren’t always paid well either. Anything from 25000-125000. It’s one of those rare fields where your remuneration is based entirely on how productive you are. And since Ireland has become the EU tech capital, senior-principal devs are more often than not paid 80k base plus stocks, bonus pension etc.


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    #132
    Man with broke phone
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    all the bais wrote: »
    I sleep in a big bed with my wife

    On a scale of one to ten how much room is left over.


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    #133
    gailforecast
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 140 ✭✭gailforecast


    all the bais wrote: »
    I sleep in a big bed with my wife

    I also sleep in a big bed with your wife.


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    #134
    Man with broke phone
    Registered Users Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Man with broke phone


    gailforecast wrote: »
    Not every role. Developers aren’t always paid well either. Anything from 25000-125000. It’s one of those rare fields where your remuneration is based entirely on how productive you are. And since Ireland has become the EU tech capital, senior-principal devs are more often than not paid 80k base plus stocks, bonus pension etc.

    So much IT propaganda on this website, I measure the height and weight of people from all over the world and in all walks of life, some IT staff work harder than others and some get paid more than others, sometimes the two depend on each other other times they dont. Sometimes people dont work hard because they never got more money for working harder. Sometimes people got big pay rises because they asked and the boss didnt really know what they did, just liked the cut of their jib.


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    #135
    Paul_Mc1988
    Registered Users Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Paul_Mc1988


    2011 wrote: »
    Not quite, I worked on a project in Intel (but not for Intel) for a period of time and the salaries in the link seem accurate. There are some perks and extra money can be earned by doing overtime, but to say most technicians are on €80k + is highly inaccurate.

    Yes most technician are in 80+ all in. This is made up of base salary, built in overtime, shift pay, 4 quarterly bonus and yearly bonus. As you said you never worked direct so therefore wouldnt have a clue how their pay works!


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    #136
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,809 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Man with broke phone wrote: »
    So much IT propaganda on this website, I measure the height and weight of people from all over the world and in all walks of life, some IT staff work harder than others and some get paid more than others, sometimes the two depend on each other other times they dont. Sometimes people dont work hard because they never got more money for working harder. Sometimes people got big pay rises because they asked and the boss didnt really know what they did, just liked the cut of their jib.

    how do you measure work hardness?


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    #137
    Paul_Mc1988
    Registered Users Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Paul_Mc1988


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Engineering - what would their role be, a technician for what? That’s very interesting...


    Equipment repair or process work. Techs work nights and weekends so it's not for everyone.


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    #138
    Stone Deaf 4evr
    Registered Users Posts: 7,994 ✭✭✭Stone Deaf 4evr


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    how do you measure work hardness?

    put some of it in a kettle and boil it, if there's a white scaly residue, its fairly hard, and you should look for something softer before all your appliances get fecked.


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    #139
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,809 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »
    put some of it in a kettle and boil it, if there's a white scaly residue, its fairly hard, and you should look for something softer before all your appliances get fecked.

    bollocks, ive work hardness then, must crack off one, just for safety reasons


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    #140
    Kevhog1988
    Registered Users Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Contracting - there are QS' who are self employed in construction, and they get hired in and work alongside the full time QS' on salary for the big firms in Dublin. They are making a bomb but the spotlight is on them, more is expected, and you can guarantee they will be the first ones let go if **** hits the fan. Once you have served your purpose you are gone.

    True story: A very experienced man in the above in his 50s, won one of the top 3 construction contractors in ireland €160m worth of work just before Covid, 2 substantially large landmark projects in Dublin. He singlehandedly poured his heart and soul into the tender to win it. Once Covid came they kindly showed him the door and now he's sitting back at home doing his own thing again. After 4 years freelancing/hired into them. He's not complaining that much though as he's flat out again, sort of man that will never be out of work.
    Is IT like this when you go between contracts? It's different as obviously IT is thriving at the moment, construction is experiencing a periodic dip in some sectors.

    Another example - I can sit on my €60K salary here in Dublin. Or I could go to europe - holland/sweden etc to work on a data centre on the technical cost side next week and get paid €130K, just like that. Accomodation paid for, rotational flights, 1st 5 years is 25% tax free in Holland.
    But would I be any happier? My family is here, my partner is here (we've no kids and aren't married). Me moving there would probably put our relationship in jeopardy as I'd only be home every 2-3 weeks. We'd get our house we want with my salary on that scale. But I could miserable as f*ck in Holland/Sweden!

    Contracting and international roles suits some people - single/don't really bother with their family or have no interests here.

    I'm happy at the moment, my friends would laugh at me and jump at the chance to double their salary, but it doesn't guarantee any happiness, in fact there'd be more stress and risk.

    If i was single with no kids id chase the money


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    #141
    gailforecast
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 140 ✭✭gailforecast


    Man with broke phone wrote: »
    So much IT propaganda on this website, I measure the height and weight of people from all over the world and in all walks of life, some IT staff work harder than others and some get paid more than others, sometimes the two depend on each other other times they dont. Sometimes people dont work hard because they never got more money for working harder. Sometimes people got big pay rises because they asked and the boss didnt really know what they did, just liked the cut of their jib.

    Well for devs, it’s not really about working hard, it’s about working smart. Gifted devs will always produce 10x the level of an average dev and are paid accordingly. The average dev may spend significantly more time working however.


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    #142
    Man with broke phone
    Registered Users Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Man with broke phone


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    how do you measure work hardness?

    Simple, the work hardness test is carried out exactly the same way a BMI test is carried out. Good BMI means good worker, healthy, obedient but not a pushover. Envy of his friends and peers.


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    #143
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    thomasdylan wrote: »
    He's either bluffing or hitting at least 80-90 hours a week every week.

    You don't know what his job is.


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    #144
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,433 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    how do you measure work hardness?
    If you see a man awkwardly crossing his legs under the desk, he's work hard.


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    #145
    bush
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭bush


    Im not sure the op was bragging about how much money hes making more about how he manages the money. I think hes doing well for himself and he should proud of it.


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    #146
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,809 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Man with broke phone wrote: »
    Simple, the work hardness test is carried out exactly the same way a BMI test is carried out. Good BMI means good worker, healthy, obedient but not a pushover. Envy of his friends and peers.

    say wha?


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    #147
    thomasdylan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 514 ✭✭✭thomasdylan


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    You don't know what his job is.

    No I don't.

    I do know what the NCHD salary scale is. I'm on it myself. My colleagues are all on it. I know how many hours he would have to do to hit 120k, I'd be surprised if he or you are being truthful about what he makes.

    Hes not a consultant so he's on the NCHD salary scale.


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    #148
    This is it
    Registered Users Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭This is it


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Would be very confident that people in their 20s aren’t earning €95K in the above, and if they are then fair f*cks to them. But they would be in the 1% bracket?

    Sure a plumber or electrician with his head screwed on could be on €120K before thirty and he hasn’t opened a book in his life unlike the people working in the sector above.

    Those people you are speculating about making that money in the above sectors are either doing massive overtime or in an extreme niche in that they have a very unique employer or skill set.

    Hasn't opened a book in their life? The ignorance.


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    #149
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    thomasdylan wrote: »
    No I don't.

    I do know what the NCHD salary scale is. I'm on it myself. My colleagues are all on it. I know how many hours he would have to do to hit 120k, I'd be surprised if he or you are being truthful about what he makes.

    Hes not a consultant so he's on the NCHD salary scale.

    Why are you pretending his job is on the NCHD scale?


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    #150
    thomasdylan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 514 ✭✭✭thomasdylan


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    Why are you pretending his job is on the NCHD scale?

    What other scale is a doctor in their 20s going to be on? He's not a GP so presumably he's hospital based. You can't really complete specialist training in your 20s and be a consultant. If he's in a public hospital he's on the NCHD salary scale. If he's in a private hospital RMO is slightly better paid but it's a career dead end.


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    #151
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    thomasdylan wrote: »
    What other scale is a doctor in their 20s going to be on? He's not a GP so presumably he's hospital based. You can't really complete specialist training in your 20s and be a consultant. If he's in a public hospital he's on the NCHD salary scale. If he's in a private hospital RMO is slightly better paid but it's a career dead end.

    I'm not saying what his job is, but stop pretending you know what his job is, because you don't.


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