PV Feed In Tariff

Bannerman1969

18.5c

lau1247

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122399854#Comment_122399854

BG's FIT is 18.5c, no? (Not 15c)

The only downside with BG is they pay every 6 months, which is annoying.

lau1247

Can someone with BG D/N meter confirm for me what the hours are. I just saw on the website it is 8am-11pm and 11pm to 8am.

I thought it is 9am-12am and 12am to 9am?

Bannerman1969

It's day rate from 8am - 11pm and night 11pm to 8am in winter until clocks go forward around April.

It's day rate from 9am - 12 midnight and 12 midnight to 9am in summer until clocks go back around October

lau1247

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122401869#Comment_122401869

Thanks for clarifying, it wasn't clear from their website

yankinlk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122401869#Comment_122401869

I didnt realize you can still get paid FIT on a non smart plan... Thought that was going away at some point.

graememk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418791#Comment_122418791

Deemed fit went away on non smart meters,

A non smart plan, on a smart meter gives a measured fit

yankinlk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418829#Comment_122418829

Thanks. I recall that is why i switched to smart plan. Only really needed to adjust the timers of my night rate usage.

I was on 60% night usage when i was on deemed fit… i seem to be on a much higher percentage for summertime… this winter i will see if this works out. Especially if the government removes the payments … might have to invest in a bigger battery long term.

Minifox

How much would it cost to retrofit a 10kw battery? I already have 8 solar panels; so outside of Summer, I'd be looking at charging battery on cheap EV rate.

I mean through a reputable and insured company. I have no technical knowledge, expertise or contacts.

On a related note, the new Kia EV3 and several other new EV models have vehicle-to-home capabilities. Does anyone know how much it would cost to install a bidirectional charger and do other necessary conversions to home?

Thanks in advance.

graememk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418884#Comment_122418884

Have you an official source that it's actually v2H?

Most are V2L (Load) which is very different as it's basically a generator.

As for a home battery, an inverter swap to a hybrid and about 2k cost for an off the shelf non DIY battery (IE pure drive (although I think they are called Duracell now))

Should be able to sell on your old inverter too.

yknaa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122345809#Comment_122345809

Welcome credit of €300 was the main reason - and the same FIT rate (at the time of switching)

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122308499#Comment_122308499

You don't need a smart contract to get FIT, just the smart meter, I am still on my D/N rate with FIT from Energia. Last bill was -€245

Standard Toaster

Hey all,

Moving into new home in the next few days and eyeballing electric providers.

I've just discovered https://www.energypal.ie/ thanks to the forum and it says (based on 1mth of use), smart meter went in a month ago so only lets me export that

The aim is to get solar panels installed asap and I'm wondering who would be best to pick from?

I'm factoring in FIT here (new place has a smart meter already)

Exiled Rebel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418844#Comment_122418844

Has it been mooted that they will remove the FIT payments or if they do any idea when?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122422461#Comment_122422461

Dynamic tarrifs are the most likely long term outcome.

graememk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122422461#Comment_122422461

No it hasn't,

Although the next evolution is dynamic tariffs to those who choose to go on one.

loyatemu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122422461#Comment_122422461

it's probably a while away here as they've only recently been introduced and are being used as a carrot to get people to install solar. But the rates are only likely to go down in the future and in some other countries with more domestic solar, they've moved to dynamic pricing.

Solar companies here are flat out, but you only have to look at the rooftops of any housing estate to see that we're only just getting started in Ireland. in my estate of 30 or so houses, there are 2 with PV and one more with tubes.

Exiled Rebel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122422479#Comment_122422479

We're a little away from that imo.

We need to up our % of renewables significantly. Could be 5 to 10 years away.

Can't see FIT being as generous as it is for much longer tbh. I've a 8kWp array with no battery. I'm exporting all my excess which has generated circa €260 credit in a crap summer. As this rate I'll probably have somewhere around €400 credit going into the winter.

Given how many are now installing solar I can foresee energy companies squeezing the government to curtail FIT, they are probably already lobbying them. The question is when will it be cut as that is when I will in all likelihood invest in a battery.

Exiled Rebel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122422518#Comment_122422518

I passed a newish housing estate in kilmeaden yesterday. Out of the dozen or so houses facing the road just 1 had an array on the south facing roof. I have to say it was pretty impressive as they plastered every square inch in panels. The rest though zilch... a shocking indictment on our planning system.

graememk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122422519#Comment_122422519

Don't need to squeeze the gov to curtail the fit (for residential anyway) as the minimum fit rate is 0c.

On non domestic it's 13.5c though

Exiled Rebel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122422547#Comment_122422547

Ah I see. Had it in my head that the FIT scheme required a payment to be made, I didn't realise it could go low as zero 😂

slave1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122422536#Comment_122422536

What do you mean by planning system?

Exiled Rebel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122423703#Comment_122423703

It should be one of the conditions contained within a planning approval i.e. to have a minimum level of PV. Much in the same way there was conditions in the approval I received for various items such as type of boundary walls, the gradient of the driveway at the junction with the road etc. etc.

jlang

Is planning and reaching an A rating not the reason so many new builds estates have tiny rooftop arrays (1 or 2 panels)? Builder is encouraged/incentivised but only to put just enough to tick the box and/or tip into an A BER rating when there is the roof area available to fit more.

DaveyDave

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122424282#Comment_122424282

Pretty sure it is, although in my area anything built after 2020 just has a heat pump I'm not sure how that compares to panels. It's nothing more than greenwashing, my house came with 4 panels at 1.2kWp which is essentially useless outside of peak Summer. On a cloudy day like we've been getting recently the old panels are lucky to see 200w. 12 new panels will sit at 500-750w on most cloudy days.

graememk

Yeah that's how the 4 panel, "token" PV panels that was put in on some new builds, sometimes never even connected. Cheapest they can find and for someone to expand, you more or less have to replace the whole thing.

Some don't even have a nc6 form in.

Usually on a gas boiler, but now you can get the A rating with just a heatpump.

loyatemu

even worse is seeing new council builds with no PV on the roofs. Considering they're being built by the government and will be lived in by less well off people, it's seems a real wasted opportunity.

Exiled Rebel

Planning permission/ consent has nothing to do with BER ratings. The token gesture to get an A rating is just ruse to up the value of the property

graememk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122425466#Comment_122425466

It's a requirement in building code to hit a certain ber rating

Exiled Rebel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122425812#Comment_122425812

Oh I'm aware of that, it's just new houses today are so well insulated developers don't need to add renewables to achieve the code. There's no obligation to install PV is what I was getting at.

Building standards in this country are not stringent enough. Air tightness requirements are lacking for example. The type of house being built should determine the minimum kWp allowable e.g. a semi d would have a lower minimum than let's say a bungalow. There's new houses near where I work in Dublin with a miserly 2 panels on the roof with tons of roof space left wasted. I'd hate to think what the new owners have paid for the gafs. In the Netherlands they have a term for homes like this. I think they call them shame panels. Says it all really.

The roofs on these houses are east and west facing. Each house could easy fit 8 panels on each side with a 6 to 7kWp system producing enormous amounts of power.