Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

niallo27

PowerToWait wrote: »

The public is very easily confused if that’s the case. People roaring about being treated like children a few weeks ago and now roaring about how confusing the green list is.

The message is clear; don’t travel abroad. The green list is a sop to those who would be crying about living in a dictatorship and the rest.

Leo was on saying going to killarney for a weekend was the same risk as going to any of these countries. If this is true why is the message dont travel abroad.

Away With The Fairies

PowerToWait wrote: »

Give over with ‘the Americans’ shyte ffs.

Well I'm glad you're happy to have them here

Micky 32

niallo27 wrote: »

Leo was on saying going to killarney for a weekend was the same risk as going to any of these countries. If this is true why is the message dont travel abroad.

Maybe because of the high risk countries people may travel to.

is_that_so

PowerToWait wrote: »

Some people are not xenophobes. There are hardly any Americans entering Ireland at this time but the way your typical knuckle scraper goes on about them you’d think we were inundated.

Hmm, people are stupid, roaring, xenophobes and knuckle scrapers. You do have an enlightened view of the plain people of Ireland!

Eod100

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

What's the point of a green list, go holidays so that you don't have to isolate when you come home... But then Americans don't have to isolate either.

Coveney said there could be restrictions in months and that the passenger locator form is going online on 10th August. The one they have been promoting going online for weeks now..

https://www.thejournal.ie/plans-for-increased-controls-on-covid-19-hotspots-5156414-Jul2020/

caveat emptor

This covers a lot of the science of how infection can occur and how to mitigate.

is_that_so

caveat emptor wrote: »

This covers a lot of the science of how infection can occur and how to mitigate.

Impressed with the effort involved but that is an exercise in TMI!

hotmail.com

PowerToWait wrote: »

Some people are not xenophobes. There are hardly any Americans entering Ireland at this time but the way your typical knuckle scraper goes on about them you’d think we were inundated.

Love for America is lethal.

Eod100

Think more needs to be done about people not showing up to be tested tbh

https://twitter.com/Orlaodo/status/1285869207780040709

KrustyUCC

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Northern Ireland green list 58 countries

Ours 15

So much for an all island approach lol

Its almost as if we don't have control over what happens in another jurisdiction

timsey tiger

caveat emptor wrote: »

This covers a lot of the science of how infection can occur and how to mitigate.

Out to 10 feet that's over 3m. Not sure about the "don't be downwind" bit. If you are up wind then the other person is downwind.

Normally when given a choice I'd go down wind of an older person or mask wearer ( as they clearly are more worried ) and upwind of a younger person.

Most people haven't a clue where the wind is coming from, having to throw grass in air to see, wouldn't be an option each time you pass someone.

peterofthebr

so i think it was about 10 days ago i seen WHO or some CDC statement that they were going to look into fresh reports (findings) that the 2 meters is not enough for social distancing...anybody hear any developments on this?

also WHO were sending people to china..looking for patient zero.. no news on this either

10 feet outside? Do they think this stuff is actually practical?

ACitizenErased

Eod100 wrote: »

Think more needs to be done about people not showing up to be tested tbh

https://twitter.com/Orlaodo/status/1285869207780040709

It should either be get tested or go into mandatory quarantine if youre a contact tbh, incredibly ****ing selfish, I wouldn’t even hesitate to get tested ffs

timsey tiger

Micky 32 wrote: »

If a vaccine comes out ( which is looking more likely with each passing day)and we’re all saved i can’t wait to come back on this thread to see what the new moan will be about.

I'll save you the bother, it will be antivaxers and those who won't take the vaccine for "reasons", spreading the disease and I can't take a vaccine because of health reasons.

ACitizenErased

Doesn’t seem to be many here with long term effects

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1285879021352488960?s=21

timsey tiger

AdamD wrote: »

10 feet outside? Do they think this stuff is actually practical?

It would end up like sailing everybody maneuvering to get upwind before passing.

robfowler78

Joe_ Public wrote: »

It was really just Lombardy and one or two neighbouring regions that bore the brunt, large sections of the country, mostly further south, remained largely untouched. I dont know if they fully understand why, the north is the industry centre so maybe something to do with it. But italy did ok considering they got virtually sucker punched, they have good health service and learned a lot of lessons that others could then take on board.

I think I read somewhere that the Lombardy region and Italy in general have a much higher rate of old people then most if not all of Europe. I think that accounted for upwards if 60% of their total deaths. I could be wrong on this but I'm sure someone else will know for sure.

timsey tiger

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Doesn’t seem to be many here with long term effects

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1285879021352488960?s=21

That's great, is it 51% or 99.1% with no long term effects though?

Information like this would be useful in assessing whether to take a vaccine or not, for those with sociopathic tendencies. Most hopefully will for the general good of society.

robfowler78

timsey tiger wrote: »

I'll save you the bother, it will be antivaxers and those who won't take the vaccine for "reasons", spreading the disease and I can't take a vaccine because of health reasons.

Infairness I'm not an antivaxer but it's not like there has never been long term issues with some vaccines. I think some people that may have issues in their family with historical vaccines might think a little before been first inlone to get a rushed out vaccine.

caveat emptor

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Doesn’t seem to be many here with long term effects

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1285879021352488960?s=21

Yeah right.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1285536614069010437?s=20

Just like masks don't work.
Just like it's not airborne.
Just like there is no affect on numbers after weekend.

caveat emptor

timsey tiger wrote: »

That's great, is it 51% or 99.1% with no long term effects though?

Information like this would be useful in assessing whether to take a vaccine or not, for those with sociopathic tendencies. Most hopefully will for the general good of society.

I agree. 2 thirds of nurses who contracted it are still experiencing post viral fatigue.
Considering nursing union asking for health and safety investigations that could lead to liabilities.

HSE are going to downplay anything. got to do with this.

https://twitter.com/NursingTimes/status/1285519614210973696?s=20

KrustyUCC

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Its almost as if we don't have control over what happens in another jurisdiction

The government and academics need to stop going on about an all island approach so or we do as Northern Ireland do

It's in their benefit to be open and for us not to be

Micky 32

timsey tiger wrote: »

I'll save you the bother, it will be antivaxers and those who won't take the vaccine for "reasons", spreading the disease and I can't take a vaccine because of health reasons.

I’ll have no problem taking a chance on the vaccine, i’ll be first in queue. This virus has taken all of the things i look forward to including seeing my family in other countries etc.

Yes there will be antivaxxers on these threads, the same ones who’ll want everything shut down for “eva”.

obi604

I had a look around on google etc but could not find the answer

I know face masks are mandatory on buses etc
When do they become mandatory in indoor spaces such as shops? (does some law have to be signed etc)

Having an argument with a friend on the definitive answer

WallyGUFC

caveat emptor wrote: »

Yeah right.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1285536614069010437?s=20

Just like masks don't work.
Just like it's not airborne.
Just like there is no affect on numbers after weekend.

OP said there doesn't seem to be many examples of long-term health effects. You posted an example of 1 person who suffered long term effects, which basically proves the OPs point.

LiquidZeb

Surely if serious and long lasting health issues were common we'd be buggered with the amount of doctors and nurses who contracted it? Not saying it doesn't happen but surely hundreds of health staff would be out of action that there'd be staffing problems?

caveat emptor

WallyGUFC wrote: »

OP said there doesn't seem to be many examples of long-term health effects. You posted an example of 1 person who suffered long term effects, which basically proves the OPs point.

Check my next post. two thirds of nurses who contracted it are still experiencing post viral fatigue.

That's the majority.


HSE being challenged on workplace safety.
A tweet where HSE executive downplays any post viral effect is par for the course.

Rob A. Bank

PowerToWait wrote: »

Some people are not xenophobes. There are hardly any Americans entering Ireland at this time but the way your typical knuckle scraper goes on about them you’d think we were inundated.

According to Mr Coveney last week, there were 250 people arriving from the USA every day... that is a bit more than 'hardly any' IMHO.

And the really dangerous 'knuckle scrapers' wear red MAGA caps and refuse to self isolate for 14 days on arrival here.

Away With The Fairies

caveat emptor wrote: »

Yeah right.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1285536614069010437?s=20

Just like masks don't work.
Just like it's not airborne.
Just like there is no affect on numbers after weekend.

Claire Bryne had it mild and she's still suffering effects after 4 months.