Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

Santy2015

I think it’s ridiculous the backlog. Just bloody announce it when you have the figures

Stheno

ACitizenErased wrote: »

There was 14 positive tests last 24 hours.

So they were notified of 36 cases of which only 14 were tested in the last 24 hours?

what's going on here with this backlog?

ACitizenErased

Arghus wrote: »

People were swearing blind here yesterday there was no such thing as a weekend or Monday lag, even after the CMO said there was.

There's no testing lag, positive tests are reported as normal. They're just not reporting them. The data is there for everyone to see.

ACitizenErased

Stheno wrote: »

So they were notified of 36 cases of which only 14 were tested in the last 24 hours?

what's going on here with this backlog?

This is the 3rd time this has happened in the last 10 days, all 3 days were above 30.

Arghus

Stheno wrote: »

So they were notified of 36 cases of which only 14 were tested in the last 24 hours?

what's going on here with this backlog?

Nobody around here knows, but you will hear a lot spoofing with authority.

Gael23

20 were related to that building site in Dublin

Itssoeasy

Birdy wrote: »

Zara is absolutely buzzing. Positively beaming.

How can anyone be happy over this ?

Lollipop95

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

You're hilarious!

:rolleyes:

I haven’t been following the R number but I did say it to somebody sitting beside me and they said surely the R number couldn’t be 6 as that would be a disaster.... so I’m glad that post you quoted was sarcasm!

Arghus

ACitizenErased wrote: »

There's no testing lag, positive tests are reported as normal. They're just not reporting them. The data is there for everyone to see.

I'm saying there's a lag.

You are saying there's a lag.

So what's the problem?

is_that_so

Itssoeasy wrote: »

How can anyone be happy over this ?

Journalists can be more excitable with bad news. There's not much of a news report with "only 6" and that can upset a crafted concerned narrative.

ACitizenErased

Arghus wrote: »

I'm saying there's a lag.

You are saying there's a lag.

So what's the problem?

I said they're not reporting them, that's not a natural lag, that's holding back data.
9000 tests Sunday -> 6 cases reported
6000 tests Monday -> 36 cases reported

stephenjmcd

Stheno wrote: »

So they were notified of 36 cases of which only 14 were tested in the last 24 hours?

what's going on here with this backlog?

Its like was said yesterday by Glynn. Of the 270 reported cases in the last 14 days only 211 were in those 14 days. So where did the 59 cases come from and when did they occur and why were they included in the daily figures now.

So theres clearly a lag in reporting somewhere again this week as there's not been 36 new cases found in the last 24 hours

Arghus

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I said they're not reporting them, that's not a natural lag, that's holding back data.
9000 tests Sunday -> 6 cases reported
6000 tests Monday -> 36 cases reported

To be fair, we don't actually know why they aren't reporting them, it's all guesswork on all our parts.

Delay/lag/holding back data - we're splitting hairs here.

Itssoeasy

is_that_so wrote: »

Journalists can be more excitable with bad news. There's not much of a news report with "only 6" and that can upset a crafted concerned narrative.

I know that's what happens but I'll never ever understand it. Just report the number of cases and no emotion good or bad.

ACitizenErased

Arghus wrote: »

To be fair, we don't actually know why they aren't reporting them, it's all guesswork on all our parts.

Delay/lag/holding back data - we're splitting hairs here.

I agree we don't know but we should. This has only started happening in the last 2 weeks, as Stephen said above there's 59 extra cases just thrown into those figures according to the CMO.
It's ridiculous honestly, the 24 hour figure should be reported, it's not giving the full truth to the regular public who wouldn't know anything about testing figures etc.

Martina1991

ACitizenErased wrote:

Analysis of cases as of midnight Sunday 19th July - 25,766 cases (+6)

Healthcare Workers +6
Clusters No Change
Cases associated with clusters +31

Age Range Affected
0-4 No Change
5-14 +1
15-24 No Change
25-34 No Change
35-44 +2
45-54 +2
55-64 +1
65-74 No Change
75-84 No Change
85+ No Change

How were all 6 cases HCWs and one person was aged 5 to14

What Username Guidelines

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I said they're not reporting them, that's not a natural lag, that's holding back data.
9000 tests Sunday -> 6 cases reported
6000 tests Monday -> 36 cases reported

Unless the HSPC have some specific criteria that needs to be verified in some manner before publicly reporting cases? It may be easy enough to count positive tests from the lab and update the dashboard within the same 24hrs or so, especially as it's just a total and no issues with denotifications or counting people twice.

It may be that there's a lag over the weekend with case data being sent to HSPC and verified to ensure no double counting. Although they do still end up de-notifying some times. I'd bet it's an IT issue with various systems, likely with some human input/verification somewhere in the chain.

ACitizenErased

Martina1991 wrote: »

How were all 6 cases HCWs and one person was aged 5 to14

The HCWs and clusters are added after contact tracing, usually 24/48hrs behind

igCorcaigh

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1285618615581126657?s=19

Arghus

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I agree we don't know but we should. This has only started happening in the last 2 weeks, as Stephen said above there's 59 extra cases just thrown into those figures according to the CMO.
It's ridiculous honestly, the 24 hour figure should be reported, it's not giving the full truth to the regular public who wouldn't know anything about testing figures etc.

I don't know why no journalist has asked about this in the briefings yet. Basic stuff, they should be asking about it.

RocketRaccoon

Once again, Dublin is the issue

Arghus

I think Leo was flying kites today to cover his own ass.

Santy2015

igCorcaigh wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1285618615581126657?s=19

Another f**king doom merchant!! All virgin media, chambers, king, Reilly

Sanjuro

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Once again, Dublin is the issue

Who'd have thunk the place with the biggest concentration of people has the biggest concentration of cases. Shocking.

ACitizenErased

Santy2015 wrote: »

Another f**king doom merchant!! All virgin media, chambers, king, Reilly

I think we need to stop caring about daily cases from now on tbh, I'm converted to the 7 day average only 17 cases per day over the last 3 days.

MerlinSouthDub

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I think we need to stop caring about daily cases from now on tbh, I'm converted to the 7 day average only 17 cases per day over the last 3 days.

ACitizenErased speaks more sense that the sum total of all of our "journalists".

RocketRaccoon

Sanjuro wrote: »

Who'd have thunk the place with the biggest concentration of people has the biggest concentration of cases. Shocking.

And yet the rest of the country are being punished for it.

ACitizenErased

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

ACitizenErased speaks more sense that the sum total of all of our "journalists".

I'm a numbers guy, always have been since school and I study statistics as part of my university degree.
I'm really not a fan of how we're basically manipulating figures.
We've had 58 positive tests in last 72 hours and 52 cases reported. These numbers line up, but our way of reporting them is not.

ninebeanrows

The numbers are so off,

It is like they save up to give a big number on one day to suit their narrative. It is really dodgy the delayed reporting of the cases, can some journo ask some hard questions and not pander to the constant negative stream.

Renjit

Why is Spain surging again? Seems like antibodies tests included.