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The current trend of removing cash is a serious mistake

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    #902
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    coinop wrote: »
    LOL they really don't want you using cash. Man arrested for having large quantity of cash on him. No drugs. No guns. Arrested for having cash. Can't wait for all the aul biddys who hold up the checkout line counting out their pennies to be sent to the gulag.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/202...seized-dublin/

    Link isn't working, but I assume that is the case of 110k in cash found in a property of a man suspected of being involved in a criminal organisation? Not exactly "arrested for having cash" as you are portraying it to be.


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    #903
    coinop
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 315 ✭✭coinop


    My previous link has now been fixed. But here is another one that might interest you. "Report finds majority of Irish purchases made online. "

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/1109/1176842-online-spending/

    Time is running out for the penny pinchers, fumbling in the greasy till. Tick-tock.


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    #904
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,876 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    coinop wrote:
    Time is running out for the penny pinchers, fumbling in the greasy till. Tick-tock.

    So we 're all gonna move over to digital platforms, including the criminals?


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    #905
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,200 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    coinop wrote: »
    My previous link has now been fixed. But here is another one that might interest you. "Report finds majority of Irish purchases made online. "

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/1109/1176842-online-spending/

    Time is running out for the penny pinchers, fumbling in the greasy till. Tick-tock.

    wow, people spending more online in the middle of a lockdown. what a surprise.


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    #906
    doublejobbing 2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    coinop wrote: »
    My previous link has now been fixed. But here is another one that might interest you. "Report finds majority of Irish purchases made online. "

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/1109/1176842-online-spending/

    Time is running out for the penny pinchers, fumbling in the greasy till. Tick-tock.

    With any luck the thousands of crying kids who receive a late, wrong or damaged gift this Christmas will return some sanity to the Irish buying public by next year.

    Bricks and mortar buying is, generally, safer, more convenient and, most importantly, nearly always cheaper than online.

    I've been out shopping three times since the lockdown lifted, the amount of free car spaces and general lack of crowds this close to Christmas is nothing short of scary. Can only hope sanity prevails next year.


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    #907
    Dodge
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    doublejobbing 2 wrote: »
    With any luck the thousands of crying kids who receive a late, wrong or damaged gift this Christmas will return some sanity to the Irish buying public by next year.
    This won’t happen. “Thousands of crying kids”.

    Ludicrously OTT post


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    #908
    Snotty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭Snotty


    doublejobbing 2 wrote: »
    Bricks and mortar buying is......
    nearly always cheaper than online.

    Nearly never cheaper is closer to the mark.

    Buying online you can easily get many prices for an item and buy the cheapest, with bricks and mortar you are generally restricted to who stocks the item within a reasonable distance.
    Lots of benefits to buying local, because its cheaper is a rarity


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    #909
    PalLimerick
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    Mike3287 wrote: »
    Exactly

    Kills the black market and drug money culture

    Thought I'd never see the day

    Pavee point won't be happy haha
    Why won't Pavee Point be happy?


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    #910
    [Deleted User]
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    doublejobbing 2 wrote: »
    With any luck the thousands of crying kids who receive a late, wrong or damaged gift this Christmas will return some sanity to the Irish buying public by next year.

    Bricks and mortar buying is, generally, safer, more convenient and, most importantly, nearly always cheaper than online.

    I've been out shopping three times since the lockdown lifted, the amount of free car spaces and general lack of crowds this close to Christmas is nothing short of scary. Can only hope sanity prevails next year.

    Hopefully you kept the receipt this time.


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    #911
    skooterblue2
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    PalLimerick wrote: »
    Why won't Pavee Point be happy?

    Them boys are creative and will come up with another currency. I am thinking copper is a good choice.


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    #912
    DellyBelly
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    PalLimerick wrote: »
    Why won't Pavee Point be happy?

    I suspect he's saying people will have less cash at home so breaking into houses will be less lucrative


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    #913
    Wanderer78
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    skooterblue2 wrote:
    Them boys are creative and will come up with another currency. I am thinking copper is a good choice.

    You re actually probably right, we ve been at this digital money stuff for a very long time now, the majority of the supply being so, and it's damn problematic, so much so, I suspect non digital is here to stay for a while longer


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    #914
    skooterblue2
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    DellyBelly wrote: »
    I suspect he's saying people will have less cash at home so breaking into houses will be less lucrative

    I think he really means, they wont have a currency that isnt linked to the Revenue Commissioner or government audit.


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    #915
    kippy
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    There will definitely be less cash floating around long term but society will never be cashless for the reasons outlined here.
    A lot of people also seem to have a lot of faith in the disaster recovery and business continuity plans of very small business right up to large organisations. Obviously never worked in IT.


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    #916
    skooterblue2
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    kippy wrote: »
    There will definitely be less cash floating around long term but society will never be cashless for the reasons outlined here.

    I believe a cashless society has been on the cards for a long time. Also have a look at "digital tattoos", they will be an easy sell to teenagers. I am not sure how alternative currencies would work ie gold silver copper for the black market.


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    #917
    ohnonotgmail
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    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    I believe a cashless society has been on the cards for a long time. Also have a look at "digital tattoos", they will be an easy sell to teenagers. I am not sure how alternative currencies would work ie gold silver copper for the black market.

    are digital tattoos not just for healthcare?


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    #918
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    are digital tattoos not just for healthcare?

    they can be used any way a creative imagination can sell them. I see them as a step up than microchipping dogs. You want privacy for citizens and transparency in government.


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    #919
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,200 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    they can be used any way a creative imagination can sell them. I see them as a step up than microchipping dogs. You want privacy for citizens and transparency in government.

    what ways? they record biological information. what applications are there for them outside this sphere?


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    #920
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    what ways? they record biological information. what applications are there for them outside this sphere?

    I am always suspicious of governments in recent years. It is always sold to us as for our good. it could be used to deny people things as well like travel?
    I am currently involved in another debate on whether people with autism should wear sunflower lanyards. It has to do with the right to privacy and trading information.

    Something about yellow stars, red triangles and pink triangles, all happened in the past but it was sold as just information so we can identify you.


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    #921
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,200 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    I am always suspicious of governments in recent years. It is always sold to us as for our good. it could be used to deny people things as well like travel?
    I am currently involved in another debate on whether people with autism should wear sunflower lanyards. It has to do with the right to privacy and trading information.

    Something about yellow stars, red triangles and pink triangles, all happened in the past but it was sold as just information so we can identify you.

    yeah, probably best if you move that nonsense to the CT forum. I asked you a fairly straightforward question and you think that bollix is a reasonable answer?


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    #922
    Wanderer78
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    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    I believe a cashless society has been on the cards for a long time. Also have a look at "digital tattoos", they will be an easy sell to teenagers. I am not sure how alternative currencies would work ie gold silver copper for the black market.

    the majority of the money supply is already cashless, i.e. digital, and isnt created by state bodies such as central banks etc, this has been so for many decades now, hence the term 'financialization of economies', it was the digital money supply that in fact caused the previous crash


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    #923
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    yeah, probably best if you move that nonsense to the CT forum. I asked you a fairly straightforward question and you think that bollix is a reasonable answer?

    That was "bollix" was reasonable in the 1930s in Germany and look how it turned out. It works the other way too with the McCarthy communist hunts in Hollywood. You are saying it is great when it is turn on but what if it is turned off? What if you cant travell without it? What if you cant access work without it? I agree Nano technology has great potential for good but also for evil.


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    #924
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,200 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    That was "bollix" was reasonable in the 1930s in Germany and look how it turned out. It works the other way too with the McCarthy communist hunts in Hollywood. You are saying it is great when it is turn on but what if it is turned off? What if you cant travell without it? What if you cant access work without it? I agree Nano technology has great potential for good but also for evil.

    Off to CT with ya.


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    #925
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    the majority of the money supply is already cashless, i.e. digital, and isnt created by state bodies such as central banks etc, this has been so for many decades now, hence the term 'financialization of economies', it was the digital money supply that in fact caused the previous crash

    Shure the United States admitted it was broke when Nixon decoupled the dollar from the gold standard.


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    #926
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,876 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Shure the United States admitted it was broke when Nixon decoupled the dollar from the gold standard.

    ah we ve moved on from central bank created money, its almost insignificant nowadays


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    #927
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,438 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    I believe a cashless society has been on the cards for a long time. Also have a look at "digital tattoos", they will be an easy sell to teenagers. I am not sure how alternative currencies would work ie gold silver copper for the black market.

    As I said, a cashless society isn't feasible - at least some cash will be required for a variety of reasons.


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    #928
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    kippy wrote: »
    As I said, a cashless society isn't feasible - at least some cash will be required for a variety of reasons.

    What reasons?


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    #929
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    GarIT wrote: »
    What reasons?

    How will they decide who takes kick off at the start of the match if there are no coins???


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    #930
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,438 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    GarIT wrote: »
    What reasons?

    The reliance on power, internet, disaster recovery/business continuity on every level, shopping trolleys, vending machines, the inability of the poorer in society afford the technology required etc etc etc.


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    #931
    gormdubhgorm
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    Experience_day wrote: »
    I see another thread about shops not taking cash etc and it strikes me as a massive mistake as a society to Let it happen. It is an integral part of maintaining (even at this stage nearly a fiction) of privacy and it's elimination from society will not be a positive development.

    Interested to hear other people's opinions..

    It works in the United Federation of Planets (Star Trek) and Sweden.

    I would say it makes theft a lot more difficult for a start.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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