Is America losing its allure?

CrankyHaus

topper75 wrote: »

And given that those nasty Americans are gone for many decades... they are rich again, right?

Those people who try to make it to Florida across shark-infested waters on rubber tubes, they are merely adrenelin junkies?

The flows of people over the years is somewhat telling I'm afraid and is repeated where ever the hollow credo of marxism holds sway.

Compare Cuba's development since 1959 to other Latin American states dominated by the US and it's commercial interests. In general it's done okay. Not great, and a lot to criticise. But certainly better than many. No comparably ruinous civil wars, death squads, enormous inequality and consequent rampant crime. That's despite decades of US backed destabilisation attempts, whether through backing violent insurrection or exceptionally harsh trade embargoes.

I'd argue that it would be worse today than if it remained a crony capitalist playground for the Mafia ruled by Batista; and that it would be better if the US was more reasonable towards it.

It's not as simple as Marxism vs Capitalism either. Certain capitalist States in Latin America have done alright, while more Socialist ones like Venezuala under Chavez-Maduro have certainly not.

mariaalice

ShatterAlan wrote: »

This is utter bullsh1t. Your post is just one big uniformed cliche. I lived in New York for 7 years back in the 90's. Worked in IT and at the age of 28 I was doing ok, salary of $70k a year. I have first hand experience of how it was and I was doing relatively well in the "great Clinton years".


Unregulated capitalism is a disaster that doesn't reward the "winners" and punish the "losers". It rewards the corrupt and exploits the weak. If that's an economic model that you admire then you really ought to take a long hard look at yourself and the direction of your moral compass.



This trope about working hard you will get ahead is a crock. 45% of Americans can't come up with $400 in the event of an emergency. And the middle class is just fine? Really? Most of them are one or two paychecks away from disaster and up to their eyeballs in credit card debt working to pay the interest or minimum stipulation each month.

They have to believe in the dream that's how it works, its the same with the illegal emigrant its the America of the promise not the real America that makes them take the chance.

That is not saying that Ireland is perfect either.

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