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The trashing of our parks and beaches

  • 31-05-2020 8:06am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Has anyone else noticed the crazy amount of rubbish being left in parks and beaches? Bottles and cans and empty food boxes are strewn around everywhere in my local park, way more than I've ever seen before. The bins outside the park are just stacked with rubbish around them, which of course blows all over the place and birds mess it up etc. Apparently the 40 foot is a mess also and Dollymount.
    I don't understand why people can't just take their rubbish home with them?
    I realise teenagers don't gaf about these kind of things but surely it can't all be teenagers leaving this junk all over the parks?
    I've gone to beach cleanups in the past and I've seen people out cleaning this morning, but why should they have to? It's a noble effort and all but it really is a bit of a pointless endeavour against the never ending growing tide of garbage.
    And I also fear the more people clean up after others the less they'll care about littering.
    And we can't blame the council either for not enough bins - if a bin is full find another one, or take it home, don't be a scumbag.
    The recycling for 10c a can or bottle or whatever thing might help, but most of the sh*t you see strewn around is not even recyclable, flimsy packaging and plastic bags...
    I despair.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,421 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Matt Damon brought a Supervalu bag for his rubbish

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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 17,425 ✭✭✭✭Conor Bourke


    I wholly agree with the content of your post but can’t get over my irritation at your use of “thrash” instead of “trash” in the title. Why can’t Irish people differentiate between the two? Also the use of an Americanism like trash in the first place bothers me separately.

    Yes, I’m irritable in general.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You should take a walk in our glorious countryside. The amount of discarded coffee cups and drinks cans and bottles is staggering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Ashleigh1986


    Has anyone else noticed the crazy amount of rubbish being left in parks and beaches? Bottles and cans and empty food boxes are strewn around everywhere in my local park, way more than I've ever seen before. The bins outside the park are just stacked with rubbish around them, which of course blows all over the place and birds mess it up etc. Apparently the 40 foot is a mess also and Dollymount.
    I don't understand why people can't just take their rubbish home with them?
    I realise teenagers don't gaf about these kind of things but surely it can't all be teenagers leaving this junk all over the parks?
    I've gone to beach cleanups in the past and I've seen people out cleaning this morning, but why should they have to? It's a noble effort and all but it really is a bit of a pointless endeavour against the never ending growing tide of garbage.
    And I also fear the more people clean up after others the less they'll care about littering.
    And we can't blame the council either for not enough bins - if a bin is full find another one, or take it home, don't be a scumbag.
    The recycling for 10c a can or bottle or whatever thing might help, but most of the sh*t you strewn around is not even recyclable, flimsy packaging and plastic bags...
    I despair.

    This happens every time the weather improves in Ireland .
    You wouldn't see this in the likes of Sweden / Denmark / Norway / Germany ...
    To many people living here have no respect for our stunning country .
    These people will never change ....
    The only thing they understand is fines .
    That would mean providing proper security at these parks / beaches ...that costs money .
    The councils are also to blame ... Not providing enough bins at these places .
    In a lot of cases these bins are to small and remain full over a weekend before been emptied on a Monday .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭Jizique


    Has anyone else noticed the crazy amount of rubbish being left in parks and beaches? Bottles and cans and empty food boxes are strewn around everywhere in my local park, way more than I've ever seen before. The bins outside the park are just stacked with rubbish around them, which of course blows all over the place and birds mess it up etc. Apparently the 40 foot is a mess also and Dollymount.
    I don't understand why people can't just take their rubbish home with them?
    I realise teenagers don't gaf about these kind of things but surely it can't all be teenagers leaving this junk all over the parks?
    I've gone to beach cleanups in the past and I've seen people out cleaning this morning, but why should they have to? It's a noble effort and all but it really is a bit of a pointless endeavour against the never ending growing tide of garbage.
    And I also fear the more people clean up after others the less they'll care about littering.
    And we can't blame the council either for not enough bins - if a bin is full find another one, or take it home, don't be a scumbag.
    The recycling for 10c a can or bottle or whatever thing might help, but most of the sh*t you see strewn around is not even recyclable, flimsy packaging and plastic bags...
    I despair.

    Just proves we are a dirty, filthy race - if you bring it with you, take it away.
    Sickening aspect of our society.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,921 ✭✭✭buried


    Most of it round my area it is gangs of teenagers. The same ones who a couple of months ago who were doing the eco strikes from every week school to 'save de planet'!

    Make America Get Out of Here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I wholly agree with the content of your post but can’t get over my irritation at your use of “thrash” instead of “trash” in the title. Why can’t Irish people differentiate between the two? Also the use of an Americanism like trash in the first place bothers me separately.

    Yes, I’m irritable in general.

    I stand corrected. So what's thrash, like Slayer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,421 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Also the use of an Americanism like trash in the first place bothers me separately.

    Why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I wholly agree with the content of your post but can’t get over my irritation at your use of “thrash” instead of “trash” in the title. Why can’t Irish people differentiate between the two? Also the use of an Americanism like trash in the first place bothers me separately.

    Yes, I’m irritable in general.

    You are correct in general.

    Thrashing is what naughty headmasters do to school children with a cane, while trashing is a vulgar shorthand for making a mess/despoiling.

    What's the topic we're discussing again? :p

    I expect we're seeing a double whammy of no routine cleaning work by the councils and the fact it's been quiet so fly tippers know they can get away with it closer to home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Fuascailteoir


    This happens every time the weather improves in Ireland .
    You wouldn't see this in the likes of Sweden / Denmark / Norway / Germany ...
    To many people living here have no respect for our stunning country .
    These people will never change ....
    The only thing they understand is fines .
    That would mean providing proper security at these parks / beaches ...that costs money .
    The councils are also to blame ... Not providing enough bins at these places .
    In a lot of cases these bins are to small and remain full over a weekend before been emptied on a Monday .

    There should be no bins provided at all at scenic/recreation locations. If you go somewhere take your rubbish home with you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭joebloggs32


    This happens every time the weather improves in Ireland .
    You wouldn't see this in the likes of Sweden / Denmark / Norway / Germany ...
    To many people living here have no respect for our stunning country .
    These people will never change ....
    The only thing they understand is fines .
    That would mean providing proper security at these parks / beaches ...that costs money .
    The councils are also to blame ... Not providing enough bins at these places .
    In a lot of cases these bins are to small and remain full over a weekend before been emptied on a Monday .

    "The council are to blame...."

    This is a bull**** excuse and the reason why so many places are destroyed by litter. If you can bring the food/bottles/cans etc to the beach, then you can bring it home with you too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    Our glorious local beach is the same. It was beautiful and clean during the lockdown and was being enjoyed by a small group of locals. But in last two weeks the crowds have been arriving again bringing their BBQs, bottles, cans, kids toys and rubbish with them and leaving it behind. Scumbag behaviour. Blasting music too and parking wherever and whenever they want. I'll go back to avoiding it until September like I always do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    In a lot of cases these bins are to small and remain full over a weekend before been emptied on a Monday .

    Bins will never be big enough, or in enough locations, as long as the basic principle of not giving a thought applies.

    Whatever I bring with me, I bring home again... it really is that simple.

    I will await the onslaught now and I know I am a curtain twitching, saintly do-gooder, but at least I am a clean one an I don't expect anyone else to tidy up after me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭LillySV


    You will find that the same millennials who preach online about global warming and how the cars are polluting the world are the same ones doing this... they forget about their strong viewpoints once partytime comes... drinking cider and gin and throwing all rubbish onto the ground or in the rivers if near them. Galway is absolutely destroyed in rubbish at moment... our youth have been living it up since March, out drinking in the parks every day and night, area on both sides of quinncetennial bridge destroyed .... broken bottles on the paths and in the river beds .... whole place covered ... and it’s not winos... it’s our youth!!someone put up black bags for them to put their rubbish in but they ain’t bothered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,869 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    The entitlement culture.

    Sure someone else can do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    One of the most annoying things indeed is people leaving their rubbish behind them. Utter scumbags and no care for their surroundings. I'd love to know what actually makes these people think this is acceptable.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Crap parenting.


    Again.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I stand corrected. So what's thrash, like Slayer?

    Thrashing is what should happen the scum who fling their filth around for others to deal with.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    Some amount of disposable gloves fooked on the footpaths and even in parks since people started wearing them.

    Nothing but dogs.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    Also thrashing, that's just embarrassing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Some amount of disposable gloves fooked on the footpaths and even in parks since people started wearing them.

    Nothing but dogs.

    Supermarket carparks are littered with disposable gloves. You have the awareness to wear them while shopping but then just fook them on the ground when done with them. Moronic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I thought gloves were so last month. Are people still wearing them?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,902 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    You should take a walk in our glorious countryside. The amount of discarded coffee cups and drinks cans and bottles is staggering.

    Exactly. It’s rubbiage not thrash.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Lemsiper


    Jizique wrote: »
    Just proves we are a dirty, filthy race - if you bring it with you, take it away.
    Sickening aspect of our society.

    Little unfair to say the human race is dirty and filthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    People can’t seem to go to the beach or park without a picnic or a drink, rubbish thrown everywhere, if a bin is full they don’t seem to be able to bring their rubbish home with them.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There should be no bins provided at all at scenic/recreation locations. If you go somewhere take your rubbish home with you.

    Just about to say the same thing.

    If you were able to do the heaviest lifting in order to bring all your **** to the beach or park then surely you’re able to carry the much lighter load back with you.

    It’s not just kids either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Remember the absolute legends that sang “clean up for the Boys in Green” after Ireland matches over in France at EURO 2016? Well this is what happens when the cameras aren’t rolling and they’re not trying to get onto Joe.ie for being “the best fans in the world.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Elmo wrote: »
    People can’t seem to go to the beach or park without a picnic or a drink, rubbish thrown everywhere, if a bin is full they don’t seem to be able to bring their rubbish home with them.

    No problems bringing a picnic, drinks or anything. Just take the stuff home when done with it. If they managed to bring it, they can take it home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭tritriagain


    Last summer I went for an early morning walk with my dogs on my local beach. A beautiful place to walk and swim . When I arrived back to the top of the slipway to the beach someone had dropped 2 black sacks full of rubbish. At 7:30 in the morning. Scum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Also in relation to the word thrashing I think it is used correctly in the title.

    The little ****ers thrashed the place and you’d think they could find a ****ing trash can!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭Car99


    Its unbelievable how much litter on irish roadsides. Why isnt there a massive national continuous advertising campaign to make this behaviour socially unacceptable to all. Its embarrassing to see how little respect people have for the country.
    A Latvian colleague I was talking to about it couldn't understand why we rubbish our own environment. One interesting thing he said, I cant confirm if it's fact, was anybody on the dole in Latvia is allocated a small section of street or roadway local to their home to maintain clean of litter. If they dont keep it clean , no dole. I'm sure it wouldn't work here but it is a good idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,616 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Given the general lack of shíts they give about responsibility regarding the virus why should they have any for environment/littering? Its the selfishness mixed with the stupidity. The "me" generation who just want their fun and thats all that matters.

    Consequences and responsibility simply have far too many letters for them to comprehend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    Dock the "parents" dole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,817 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Lemsiper wrote: »
    Little unfair to say the human race is dirty and filthy.

    I've yet to see a squirrel or rabbit fücking its half eaten packet of Doritos out the window of a car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,722 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    I manage the maintenance of a number of public green spaces.
    Workers have been off and we’re just starting back in stages.

    It was expected but my god some of the general public are a dirty shower of cnuts.

    We’re in a constant battle against littering and fly tipping and it’s disheartening work.

    One site has had a number of recycled plastic picnic benches destroyed by burning on them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Elmo wrote: »
    Also in relation to the word thrashing I think it is used correctly in the title.

    The little ****ers thrashed the place and you’d think they could find a ****ing trash can!

    Yes that's what i meant. Like you would thrash a hotel room. I wasn't thinking of the word in a trash can sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,817 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    This happens every time the weather improves in Ireland .
    You wouldn't see this in the likes of Sweden / Denmark / Norway / Germany ...

    Paddy is too lazy. Claims to love his country but leaves his shyte strewn around the countryside after him.
    Arragh shur lookit I pays me taxes and de council will pick it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    This is what unlimited dole does to a society.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This happens every time the weather improves in Ireland .
    You wouldn't see this in the likes of Sweden / Denmark / Norway / Germany ...
    To many people living here have no respect for our stunning country .
    These people will never change ....
    The only thing they understand is fines .
    That would mean providing proper security at these parks / beaches ...that costs money .
    The councils are also to blame ... Not providing enough bins at these places .
    In a lot of cases these bins are to small and remain full over a weekend before been emptied on a Monday .

    Unfortunately we just aren't as civilised as those Scandinavian countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    This is what unlimited dole does to a society.

    Not really. Filthy bastards come in all guises, not just people on the dole.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,616 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Paddy is too lazy. Claims to love his country but leaves his shyte strewn around the countryside after him.
    Arragh shur lookit I pays me taxes and de council will pick it up.

    And probably blames travellers when they litter but dont see an issue when they do it because "taxpayer"


    Its stupidity and selfishness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    So like, really there's no hope for us is there? It's just going to get worse and worse. I really think the Taoiseach should be coming out and making a statement on this. Something needs to happen. It was just so bad in the park this morning, and I believe it's the same all over Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    a big part of the irish psyche is getting away with it, ah sure its grand, a half assed job.


    See most of the homes built in the last 20 years - shoddy workmanship galore.

    look at the courts - filled with people with 50+ convictions and people suing the arse out of businesses because they fell off a swing. We don't do personal responsibility.

    look at politics - when was the last time an Irish public representative fell on their sword after some scandal instead of brazenly holding on by their finger nails - deny, deflect, distract. Again the instinct is to get away with it - no honour amongst thieves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭flintash


    Car99 wrote: »
    One interesting thing he said, I cant confirm if it's fact, was anybody on the dole in Latvia is allocated a small section of street or roadway local to their home to maintain clean of litter.
    very likely true. im neighbors with Latvia, so the system is probably similar regarding the dole.To receive the dole you need to work for period of time, and if you cannot get the job yourself, the goverment will employ you and you will be cleaning around the place and doing other ****ty jobs nobody else wants to do.
    Another thing is there is no widespread takeaway culture that contributes to rubbish along the roads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭SteM


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    This is what unlimited dole does to a society.
    Pkiernan wrote: »
    Dock the "parents" dole.

    You seem intent on turning this into a dole bashing thread, littering is a problem that goes beyond people on social welfare I'm afraid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    SteM wrote: »
    You seem intent on turning this into a dole bashing thread, littering is a problem that goes beyond people on social welfare I'm afraid.

    Yes it totally does. Even my own friends in the last few years have walked off and left rubbish in places we've been, and I'd always make them pick it up and take it with them. Some people just don't even recognise that this is a problem, they are just blind to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Maybe it's due to lack/ decline of community ownership. We've a new local community park that's getting heavy use these days, no bins on site, not one bit of litter left around.
    Fair dues to the teenagers of today.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It’s time to get litter wardens in every beauty spot. Give them the powers to photograph people walking away from rubbish and again as they leave in their vehicles. Owner of the vehicle to be fined and points on driving license. Just some ideas to be bandied about.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Bags of dogs hit annoy me the most. Better just to leave the crap on the ground than bag it first


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    Noticed on our beach that its mostly the groups of teenagers/early 20s that leave behind plastic bottles,cans,glass bottles on the beach for somebody else to pick up.

    This is the same generation who 6 months ago were protesting about climate change.


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