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Cycling on paths and other cycling issues (updated title)
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But let's get back to the issue of obstructions on pavements;
Brewery Road, again with lots of elderly people;
Staff and presumably customer of ICE Ranelagh blocking path and bike lane for a grand oul chat;
The Enchanted Florist, Milltown, delivery van and builder blocking access from both sides;
Probably customer of Wilde and Green Milltown couldn't be arsed using car park across the road;
An Post courier van, off Lr Churchtown Road, making sure he couldn't possibly delay drivers on the road, so he takes half the path instead,
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But can we get back on the topic of obstructions on pavements please?
Beaumont Ave x 2 - Range Rover is becoming a permanent feature there, and one van or other is often at that spot opposite the shops (the shops with parking outside, btw).
Grange Road, with the amost completely empty car park visible in the background.
Ballinteer Ave - builder's van again becoming a permanent feature there, and the Ford just can't resist putting one wheel on the pavement to make sure any motorists aren't slightly inconvenienced;
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AndrewJRenko wrote: »I omitted burgandy because it is an 'or' relationship - black or navy or burgandy - so removing any one doesn't change the validity of the other two. Now back to the issue - isn't nightime a black or blue environment?
Ah so you want to give me that fuzzy warm feeling of yours that you say you get when people change the meaning/context of your posts, I don't get that warm fuzzy feeling just a sense of sorrow at your desperation to make a point of something I didn't actually say.
Who mentioned side? The reflective stripes would be on the boot as well. That would definitely improve the visibility of parked cars at night (that blue or black environment you mentioned earlier), right?
You mean in addition to the standard reflectors as fitted to car bumpers and integrated into rear light clusters not to mention the reflective number plate
No I said that daylight is better than headlights at night time, do you not think you see more clearly in daylight?
Are you saying that you have difficulty seeing pedestrians crossing the road in daylight?
Yet you want me to repeat the answer in your own post, go on then just for youAnd yet, you did.Because a parked car isn't moving and already has the major PPE ( lights, reflectors etc. ) built in.
Ah but you were so busy cycling off to photograph builders vans you didn't get to photograph any of these buses parked on the footpath. As to changing the timetable, surely if there are that many excess buses you just start back on the return jouney and be either an early bus or a later bus but probably by on 10 mins or so either wayIt doesn't really make sense to change timetables for a temporary scenario. Yes, I did seem the parked on the footpath and bike lane outside Lidl Rathfarnham a couple of times, reducing the space available for social distancing.0 -
magicbastarder wrote: »cheers, didn't spot that.
Hope you spot more when you're on the roads than you do on Boards
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That's not as far off the truth as I'd like.magicbastarder wrote: »AJR has the *worst* holiday photo album i've ever seen.TaurenDruid wrote: »The elevated position of cyclists means it's really visible when they're on their phones, too. A surprisingly common phenomenon, even among the ones who aren't deliveroo or justeat delivery guys.
Really not that common in my experience. I have seen it, and I have cringed, because I know if I tried it, I'd end up with a smashed phone. The Deliveroo guys often have the phone mounted on the bars or in a harness on their arm.
Except I didn't change anything in your post. I omitted one of the three colour options that you listed, as I didn't really know what you meant by a burgundy environment. Feel free to explain if you like. That doesn't change anything about what you said about reflective strips providing more visibility in black or blue environments (like nighttime).Ah so you want to give me that fuzzy warm feeling of yours that you say you get when people change the meaning/context of your posts, I don't get that warm fuzzy feeling just a sense of sorrow at your desperation to make a point of something I didn't actually say.
Strange how you seem to be backing away from that now.You mean in addition to the standard reflectors as fitted to car bumpers and integrated into rear light clusters not to mention the reflective number plate
No I said that daylight is better than headlights at night time, do you not think you see more clearly in daylight?
Ah but you were so busy cycling off to photograph builders vans you didn't get to photograph any of these buses parked on the footpath. As to changing the timetable, surely if there are that many excess buses you just start back on the return jouney and be either an early bus or a later bus but probably by on 10 mins or so either way
Yes, rear reflectors in addition to those standard ones, as used by the Gardai and other emergency vehicles.
Surely you'd agree that this would improve visibility for more people. Imagine if you had crashed on a dark road or motorway resulting in your lights not working. Surely this would give approaching traffic more of a chance to see you and stop before they crashed into you? I really don't know why drivers won't take responsibility for their own safety.
Yes, very much better in daylight. So do you need pedestrians to wear hi-vis in daylight to prevent you from hitting them if they cross the road?No I said that daylight is better than headlights at night time, do you not think you see more clearly in daylight?
Didn't keep the video footage at the time. In fairness, it was in the early weeks of the lockdown, so maybe it took them a little while to work out their procedures.Ah but you were so busy cycling off to photograph builders vans you didn't get to photograph any of these buses parked on the footpath. As to changing the timetable, surely if there are that many excess buses you just start back on the return jouney and be either an early bus or a later bus but probably by on 10 mins or so either way
I really don't know much about managing bus timetables, so I'll stay schtum on that one. I know, that's an unusual approach around here.0 -
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Not mine to respond toAndrewJRenko wrote: »That's not as far off the truth as I'd like.
Not mine to respond toReally not that common in my experience. I have seen it, and I have cringed, because I know if I tried it, I'd end up with a smashed phone. The Deliveroo guys often have the phone mounted on the bars or in a harness on their arm.
If i had meant nighttime I would have said night time, you deciding to remove wording for selective quotes doesn't change that fact
Except I didn't change anything in your post. I omitted one of the three colour options that you listed, as I didn't really know what you meant by a burgundy environment. Feel free to explain if you like. That doesn't change anything about what you said about reflective strips providing more visibility in black or blue environments (like nighttime).
Strange how you seem to be backing away from that now.Yes, rear reflectors in addition to those standard ones, as used by the Gardai and other emergency vehicles.
Surely you'd agree that this would improve visibility for more people. Imagine if you had crashed on a dark road or motorway resulting in your lights not working. Surely this would give approaching traffic more of a chance to see you and stop before they crashed into you? I really don't know why drivers won't take responsibility for their own safety.
Do you actually read replies that you are givenKeep digging, its only you making a fool of yourself. If i thought that wrapping my car in hi viz would be useful I would but given the status of size, permanently available lights, reflectors and reflective surfaces, all of which make the car more visible than a cyclist or pedestrian under (pretty much) all conditions i think not.
Now if i were to be parking the car in hazerdous positions like doing road side checks (Garda), Highway repairs (Council vehicles) or Breakdowns (AA and other services ) id give the idea of Hi Viz tape etc. more merit on a vehicle.Yes, very much better in daylight. So do you need pedestrians to wear hi-vis in daylight to prevent you from hitting them if they cross the road?
I would prefer all vulnerable road users to be wearing bright day glow colors during daylight hours, I see nothing wrong with that thought seeing as conditions can change in short spans of time from sunny to overcast to rainy, during each of which a pedestrians visibility would be enhanced by day glow or very bright colorsDidn't keep the video footage at the time. In fairness, it was in the early weeks of the lockdown, so maybe it took them a little while to work out their procedures.
I really don't know much about managing bus timetables, so I'll stay schtum on that one. I know, that's an unusual approach around here.
How convenient to not think about those huge double decker buses being parked on the footpath, imagine how many people were nearly killed by their actions, absolutely shocking behaviour by DB and you should have reported it.0 -
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I know, right. It's almost as if the frequency and impact of cycling on pavements isn't as high as some people would have you believe.I don't see anybody cycling on pavements in those photo's.
There's no visibility issues when on a bike, so if it was happening a lot, I'd be seeing it. Having a phone mounted on the bars or in the armband isn't using the phone, just like having a phone mounted on the dashboard isn't using the phone, once they're not watching Netflix on it or similar, as I've seen a few drivers doing in the past year or so.TaurenDruid wrote: »Really very common, actually. Easy to see, as a pedestrian or from the bus. Having the phone mounted on the bars or in an armband is still using a phone while riding. Worse still, obviously, is the cyclists using a phone while cycling on the footpath...
Whether you meant night time or not, you said 'black or blue or burgundy environments'. Night time is generally a black or blue environment, so it fits what you said, whether you had the foresight to realise it at the time or not.If i had meant nighttime I would have said night time, you deciding to remove wording for selective quotes doesn't change that fact
But what did you mean by 'black or blue or burgundy environments'?
Yeah, I read that reply, but it's really a different scenario. That refers to Garda cars. I was referring to your car, which could find itself on a road at night with no lights in a number of different situations. Surely given that said yourself that hi-vis stripes would improve visibility in black or blue environments, it's hard to see why you haven't fitted hi-vis stripes to your car. I'm really not convinced by your commitment to hi-vis at all.Do you actually read replies that you are given
This is fascinating. So everyone should, according to you, everytime they leave their house, be wearing bright day glow colours at all time, so that drivers don't have to be bothered with looking properly. I presume you live this principle yourself, and everytime you leave the house, even when walking to the car, you wear the oul dayglo to show consideration to other drivers right?I would prefer all vulnerable road users to be wearing bright day glow colors during daylight hours, I see nothing wrong with that thought seeing as conditions can change in short spans of time from sunny to overcast to rainy, during each of which a pedestrians visibility would be enhanced by day glow or very bright colors
No? Ah here, you're not really into 'walking the talk' on this hi-vis thing, are you?
Why would you assume that I didn't report it?How convenient to not think about those huge double decker buses being parked on the footpath, imagine how many people were nearly killed by their actions, absolutely shocking behaviour by DB and you should have reported it.
But seriously, do you think it's OK for buses to be blocking paths and bike lanes at the time that they've never been needed more? Why can't he just wait on the road?That Ford Kuga is lovely, I've one in Grey.
That's the one they target at the yummy-mummies, right, so they can pretend they're exploring wild territories when they drive to the park to do their bootcamp, right?:D:D:D
https://vimeo.com/220458259
How Kuga are you, me arse! If you were really Kuga, you'd be running or cycling to the park for your bookcamp, missus.0 -
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AndrewJRenko wrote: »I know, right. It's almost as if the frequency and impact of cycling on pavements isn't as high as some people would have you believe.
There's no visibility issues when on a bike, so if it was happening a lot, I'd be seeing it. Having a phone mounted on the bars or in the armband isn't using the phone, just like having a phone mounted on the dashboard isn't using the phone, once they're not watching Netflix on it or similar, as I've seen a few drivers doing in the past year or so.
Whether you meant night time or not, you said 'black or blue or burgundy environments'. Night time is generally a black or blue environment, so it fits what you said, whether you had the foresight to realise it at the time or not.
But what did you mean by 'black or blue or burgundy environments'?
A burgundy environment can you see the burgundy coloured car?
Would you like me to post an image of a blue environment?
Let me think about this, hmmm, how many times in over 45 years of motoring have I been on the side of a road with no lights at night for any reason. Oh I just realised never, how many times have you been stuck with no lights?
Yeah, I read that reply, but it's really a different scenario. That refers to Garda cars. I was referring to your car, which could find itself on a road at night with no lights in a number of different situations. Surely given that said yourself that hi-vis stripes would improve visibility in black or blue environments, it's hard to see why you haven't fitted hi-vis stripes to your car. I'm really not convinced by your commitment to hi-vis at all.
Anyways, I don't think emblazoning all cars with HI viz Garda style markings is actually going to do any favours to Garda already working in a stressed environment, or to any of the service agencies that rely on people picking them out from the crowd on a busy road.This is fascinating. So everyone should, according to you, everytime they leave their house, be wearing bright day glow colours at all time, so that drivers don't have to be bothered with looking properly. I presume you live this principle yourself, and everytime you leave the house, even when walking to the car, you wear the oul dayglo to show consideration to other drivers right?
Nah for the short walk from my house to the car on the driveway I figure if I'm going to be hit by a car there they would have missed seeing the wall as well, however, I do use HI viz if for any reason I'm ( for instance ) changing a tyre unless I'm on a particularly busy stretch of road of motorway when I'll call out the AA to do it for me. After all they have lovely HI viz and flashing Amber beacons just for that reason.
No? Ah here, you're not really into 'walking the talk' on this hi-vis thing, are you?
Why would you assume that I didn't report it?
But seriously, do you think it's OK for buses to be blocking paths and bike lanes at the time that they've never been needed more? Why can't he just wait on the road?
Did you report it?That's the one they target at the yummy-mummies, right, so they can pretend they're exploring wild territories when they drive to the park to do their bootcamp, right?:D:D:D
https://vimeo.com/220458259
How Kuga are you, me arse! If you were really Kuga, you'd be running or cycling to the park for your bookcamp, missus.
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AndrewJRenko wrote: »Yes, I'd like you to post images of the blue and black environments that you had in mind when you referred to hi-vis giving improved visibility to cars in those environments. Presumably, you had some kind of real environment in mind, not something from a cartoon or art project. So yes, please post some photos of the real black or blue environments you had in mind.
Who said anything about a real enviroment, I just said a blue car in a blue environment, a burgandy car in a burgandy environment a black car in a black environment but if you want something as an example of a real life environment why not this
Now hi viz would definitely help someone
That's fine then, all these near misses are because the drivers see people just in time, personally I'd prefer it if I had as much input to my visual senses as possible, so that it isn't a near miss, you don't agree and that's fine.
Yet again, it is fascinating to see the painfully stretched excuses for the rationale for everyone but you having to act on your hi-vis recommendations. In all my 45 years of cycling, I've never been nearly hit by a driver who didn't see me because of my lack of hi-vis - so presumably you're now ready to step back on your recommendation for all cyclists to wear hi-vis at all times?
Oh now you think that cars need flashing blue lights as well, you'd like us all to pretend to be Garda vehicles. That'll workout well ( NOT! )And it's funny how you don't worry about service agencies ability to pick out their people on the road when everyone in the whole world is wrapped in hi-vis every time they leave their house, but you do worry about them picking out their cars - the cars with blue flashing lights and GARDA written in big letters on them.
Yes you are, don't worry though most of your arguments on Boards seem to end this wayIt's just a bit silly now, isn't it? Clearly, this is pure hypocrisy, using hi-vis as a stick to further your anti-cycling agenda. It's nothing to do with safety or visibility.You didn't answer my question, so why would I answer yours? BTW, just three buses at the terminus this morning, down from the five or six that would have been there in March.
Really, I have answered, for some reason you just don't seem able to relate logic and science to real life situations. Perhaps you never attended the Junior science lessons where the laws of physics and how light reflects, gets absorbed, etc. were done.0 -
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