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Cycling on paths and other cycling issues (updated title)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Stark wrote: »
    They really need to sort out mandatory hi-viz for houses.

    https://twitter.com/DubFireBrigade/status/1293466867928104961

    All I can see there is 4 firemen standing on front of a black screen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    kenmm wrote: »
    The whole time I lived in Dublin - it was always a bit of an amber gambler city. Last 5 years have been absolutely piss taking levels. I put it down to a combination of traffic massively increasing since the last recession and the cumulative effect (i.e. the slow decline until we reach the point where it is acceptable).

    I catch myself drifting into that mindset as well from time to time, which is a pain as when I drive int he UK (for example) need to be really mindful as they actually enforce red light jumping (with cameras and traffic police).


    EDIT: Its getting to the stage where in some places (Like the Becket bridge where there is a no left turn heading westbound from the convention centre) that its a red light jump + illegal move (i.e. red light for straight ahead, but cars sailing on ahead and illegally to the right). I got beeped the other day as I was walking across the road (on a green pedestrian).

    In London you have amber before and after green so you get double amber jumping. Used to see people get beeped all the time for not going on amber


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,272 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    maybe the handbrake was left off the car and it rolled?
    though since the house was empty, someone may have abandoned a car there.

    The house was apparently seized by CAB. Make what you will of that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    FFS - Someone managed to REVERSE into a house?


    They should invent sensors that fit into the rear bumper of cars, that emit a hi pitched "Beep" noise if you reverse too close to an obstacle. Maybe fit cameras to the rear of the car? when reverse gear is engaged, a display on the dashboard would show the driver where/what they are reversing towards? :P

    failing that, they could just do what most cyclists do when we want to know whats going on behind us and just look over your shoulder??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,270 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Duckjob wrote: »
    What "incentive" do you need ? It's the law that you stop on amber unless it would be dangerous to do so.

    Having said that, if the worst that was happening was drivers scooting through on a slightly stale amber, we'd be laughing, but the situation is far, far, far, worse than that.


    Yes, it is the law, and it's ignored by cyclists all the time, too.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,270 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    kenmm wrote: »
    EDIT: Its getting to the stage where in some places (Like the Becket bridge where there is a no left turn heading westbound from the convention centre) that its a red light jump + illegal move (i.e. red light for straight ahead, but cars sailing on ahead and illegally to the right). I got beeped the other day as I was walking across the road (on a green pedestrian).

    Has happened me too. I find stopping in front of the car, and loudly asking them what the problem is, and if they've forgotten their glasses, can be hilarious.

    (Oh, wait, I'm a motorist - am I not supposed to be 1000% pro-motorist and 5000% anti-cyclist, according to some here? Oops!)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Duckjob wrote: »
    What "incentive" do you need ? It's the law that you stop on amber unless it would be dangerous to do so.

    Having said that, if the worst that was happening was drivers scooting through on a slightly stale amber, we'd be laughing, but the situation is far, far, far, worse than that.


    Going through a green Man like that takes a serious level of scumbaggery especially on busy Dublin streets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,270 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    They should invent sensors that fit into the rear bumper of cars, that emit a hi pitched "Beep" noise if you reverse too close to an obstacle. Maybe fit cameras to the rear of the car? when reverse gear is engaged, a display on the dashboard would show the driver where/what they are reversing towards? :P

    failing that, they could just do what most cyclists do when we want to know whats going on behind us and just look over your shoulder??

    Empty house, possibly re-possessed by CAB, jeep reversed in? Yeah, I'm guessing there's more to this particular story than an Andy-level "Stoopid drivers are stoopid, hyuk hyuk hyuk"...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,270 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Going through a green Man like that takes a serious level of scumbaggery especially on busy Dublin streets

    It does. Cyclists doing it too, obviously.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Stark wrote: »
    They really need to sort out mandatory hi-viz for houses.

    https://twitter.com/DubFireBrigade/status/1293466867928104961
    FFS - Someone managed to REVERSE into a house?
    maybe the handbrake was left off the car and it rolled?
    though since the house was empty, someone may have abandoned a car there.
    Would it not have taken considerable force to embed into a brick wall?

    Or are Volvos that heavy and walls that flimsy these days?
    breezy1985 wrote: »
    All I can see there is 4 firemen standing on front of a black screen

    According to gossip it was a CAB acquired house and was likely a targeted attack rather than an accident ( I stress GOSSIP ) but would seem likely


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Empty house, possibly re-possessed by CAB, jeep reversed in? Yeah, I'm guessing there's more to this particular story than an Andy-level "Stoopid drivers are stoopid, hyuk hyuk hyuk"...

    Well since we’re speculating... maybe the driver knew the house was empty and reversed into it as some kind of break in/ theft attempt? Either way... stupid is as stupid does!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    Has happened me too. I find stopping in front of the car, and loudly asking them what the problem is, and if they've forgotten their glasses, can be hilarious.

    (Oh, wait, I'm a motorist - am I not supposed to be 1000% pro-motorist and 5000% anti-cyclist, according to some here? Oops!)

    Di(kheads are Di(kheads no matter how they travel.

    It's impossible to mention on problem on the roads without dragging in others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Well since we’re speculating... maybe the driver knew the house was empty and reversed into it as some kind of break in/ theft attempt? Either way... stupid is as stupid does!

    Well Jeeps on fire and Southside/City West seem to occur more often than you'd think :D

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/tallaght-fire-shocked-locals-watch-6382057


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Well Jeeps on fire and Southside seem to occur more often than you'd think :D

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/tallaght-fire-shocked-locals-watch-6382057

    The Jeep is not on the pavement and is very well “Lit up”! What’s the problem?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    The Jeep is not on the pavement and is very well “Lit up”! What’s the problem?

    Well according to some it needs HiViz as well as being lit up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Well according to some it needs HiViz as well as being lit up

    Not me... I’ve always said lights trump Hi-viz. or maybe your confusing Hi-viz with day glow? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭07Lapierre




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    07Lapierre wrote: »

    Amazing work. Off road level and path level is the only way to go. Anyone know what the junctions and on ramps looks like ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Not me... I’ve always said lights trump Hi-viz. or maybe your confusing Hi-viz with day glow? :)

    Not going to go through it all again, but HiViz includes DayGlo and Reflective Panels/Stripes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    Has happened me too. I find stopping in front of the car, and loudly asking them what the problem is, and if they've forgotten their glasses, can be hilarious.

    (Oh, wait, I'm a motorist - am I not supposed to be 1000% pro-motorist and 5000% anti-cyclist, according to some here? Oops!)

    We're all sharing the road so being courteous and helpful to each other makes the journeys better and less stressful. The "Racism" of each side is just toxic unhelpful sh1t.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,444 ✭✭✭SeanW


    I've heard him enough times before thanks - all in favour of cycling, once it doesn't impinge on the customers of his insurance business at all - all against very basic safety measures like the 30kmph limit around the city.
    So, he's a cyclist, but not a "real" cyclist because he doesn't agree with you. Hmmm ...
    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Just the theory
    I take back what I said about Ireland's driver licensing system being "barely functional" it's clearly not even that.
    Stark wrote: »
    They really need to sort out mandatory hi-viz for houses.
    Once you see the word "Tallaght" you should immediately question whether this was accidental or deliberate. And this very much looks like the latter.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    SeanW wrote: »
    So, he's a cyclist, but not a "real" cyclist because he doesn't agree with you. Hmmm ...
    He is a paid motoring lobbiest who also just happens to cycle to work. He respresents the interests of those (motorists) - who at end of the day pay his salary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Amazing work. Off road level and path level is the only way to go. Anyone know what the junctions and on ramps looks like ?

    Looks like its Road level with raised Kerbstone's on each side?

    https://twitter.com/dlrcc/status/1293468539366641666/photo/3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Looks like its Road level with raised Kerbstone's on each side?

    https://twitter.com/dlrcc/status/1293468539366641666/photo/3

    Well ya but as long as there's a change in level it offers some protection. I used use the cycle lane on Blackfriars Rd in London and it was the same only a full path rather than kerb and it makes a huge difference to the mentality of pedestrians when they have to step off or onto something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭micar




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,720 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    not that's it's really relevant, but i had to drive from park west to glasnevin at rush hour today. my own fault for not taking the M50.
    it was pretty much grand, but then phibsboro was a **** show. i probably drove at less than half walking pace from kings inn to hart's corner. i was the stupid schmuck not driving up the bus lane on the various sections where there is one along that stretch, and it probably would have halved my time. and i clearly wouldn't have been caught either.
    it's kinda funny, i almost don't blame other drivers for breaking the rules to suit themselves. rules aren't rules unless they're enforced. they're just ink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭micar


    not that's it's really relevant, but i had to drive from park west to glasnevin at rush hour today. my own fault for not taking the M50.
    it was pretty much grand, but then phibsboro was a **** show. i probably drove at less than half walking pace from kings inn to hart's corner. i was the stupid schmuck not driving up the bus lane on the various sections where there is one along that stretch, and it probably would have halved my time. and i clearly wouldn't have been caught either.
    it's kinda funny, i almost don't blame other drivers for breaking the rules to suit themselves. rules aren't rules unless they're enforced. they're just ink.


    My commute home is up constitution hill and aroubd Harts corner for the last 10 years.

    Everyday around 4.20pm.

    Every day there are cars driving up the bus lane past the fire brigade station and then into the bus lane just past phibsboro shopping centre

    A handful of times I've seen a guard. Brilliant when there is some one pulled over. But it's so rare.

    Always a line of cars in the bus lane at Harts corner going around to Glasnevin.

    I've never seen a guard here.

    If they every privatised giving out fines for cars in bus lanes, I'd choose Harts corner ........ make a fortune


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    07Lapierre wrote: »

    It's an excellent cycle lane. I rarely use cycle lanes because they're almost universally dangerous, badly designed, full of shyte etc. etc., but this one is good.
    The 'don't drive down here' signs do take over half the lane leaving Dun L would be my only gripe, but they're only temporary I hope.
    it's properly segregated from the path and the road, which is great.
    Not too many junctions along the way in fairness, the sea runs alongside most of it.

    I've never seen so many kids, women and families out cycling on a piece of road, even during lockdown. It's so great to see the little pedallers flying along!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,270 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Never mind amber gambling. Today at this junction I saw the following :

    I'm going straight ahead. Line up traffic beind me in both lanes. Car leaves the line, basically mounts path, takes the left filter lane, then cuts right, drives across the other lanes, and then takes the left filter lane across the road, drives on a bit, does a u-turn, and then takes the left filter again.

    It was the most criminally dangerous and careless thing I've probably ever seen, yet we have stupid f*cking threads like this that act like bikes are the source of all that are wrong on our roads.

    I wish I had my camera on.


    https://www.google.com/maps/@53.2763578,-6.3310801,3a,75y,5.26h,83.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCRSgZOWICYi3mExH944z2w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

    Something something not all cyclists not all motorists something something not a homogeneous group.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    Something something not all cyclists not all motorists something something not a homogeneous group.

    Of course all motorists are f**kers (when i am cycling) and all cyclists are di(ks (when I am driving).

    What really winds me up - pedestrians. How dare they.


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