Starting out - bicycle recommendations megathread (see summary in OP)

Tony04

Bike Recommendations the Megathread????

nipping in on Tony04's post, and taking suggestions as they crop up. if you're asking for advice on buying a bike from a position where you're learning the lie of the land, expect these sort of questions, cos they'll be asked anyway!

- what is the intended use of the bike (commuting/leisure/just going for a spin with the kids, etc.)
- what is your budget
- are you using the bike to work scheme (this rules out secondhand bikes, and depending on your employer, potentially what bike shops you can use)
- aer you willing to consider going secondhand
- will you be using the bike in wet weather
- how tall you are
- are you looking for a woman's bike or man's bike

there's lots of different bikes with more specialised purposes than ever, so the market suffers from an excess of the paradox of choice.
and to be fair, if you're in here asking for advice, beware of a paradox of choice in the range the advice you will be offered! people here are usually more than happy to help.

Edit: just going to add in if your an absolute novice you got to factor in some accessories to your budget.

- A good pump, set of allen keys, puncture patch kit and chain lube is essential for maintenance.
- Some accessories such as mud guards for all weather riding will make your life easier.
- Consider something to store your bike on I.e stand or rack. You don't want to scratch your shiny new bike.
- Consider buying shoes and clothing as it will add hugely to your riding experience

What you don't need, unless you intend to cycle on off road/bumpy surfaces, is a suspension fork. this will add unnecessary weight and cost to the bike, and will not provide any real utility.

If your taking cycling up as sport, do join your local club.

As said above you will have load of questions, which I and am sure many others will be willing to answer. After all the more people cycling the better it is for the sport/mode of transport in this country!

magicbastarder

mod - as per the above - there's been a welcome uptick in people asking for advice on buying bikes for the first time, or the first time in years, so it might be useful to have a single thread in which to capture the requests so people can find the general advice in one place.

we will probably try to fold new requests into this thread where appropriate, so start thinking of general pointers/dos and don'ts, that you might think would be useful.

bbari

What about having a general template / questionnaire to be filled when asking for recommendations e.g.

What is your budget?
Will you use B2W?
What will you use the bike for?
Any preferences?
Height/Inseam if asking for size?

etc

croker99

I guess I am first then... New cyclist here.

What is your budget? ~1,000

Will you use B2W? Yes

What will you use the bike for? Recreation in the work evenings cycling around a ~5km route on a cycle path, bit of exercise, maybe visit a greenway every now and again, cycle in places like castletown house in Celbridge for a bit of fresh air etc. (path there is gravely)


Have a few in my shortlist at the moment, so any comments on these, or alternative suggestions, would be welcome:

https://www.cyclebike.ie/cube-sl-road-race-iridium-green-2020.html

https://www.cyclebike.ie/cube-sl-road-pro-iridium-blue-2020.html

https://rothar.ie/collections/frontpage/products/orbea-vector-10

https://www.halfords.ie/cycling/bikes/all-bikes/526696.html

https://www.halfords.ie/cycling/bikes/all-bikes/526654.html

https://www.halfords.ie/cycling/bikes/all-bikes/528312.html

Thanks. P.S. you can see I was aiming for a lightish bike, based on advice from a friend.

CantGetNoSleep

I'd avoid the front suspension if you are looking for lightweight anyway. Really no use on a bike you are using on the road and adds weight

Do you have a bike at the moment? If not, it might be worth looking for one of these or something similar second hand and saving your B2W for when you get into it a bit more

Stheno

What is your budget?850
Will you use B2W? Yes
What will you use the bike for? Leisure cycling in the evening about 5k around my area on roads
Any preferences? Road bike
Height/Inseam if asking for size? Height 5 foot 8, instead 34 inches

Online calculators say I need a 23 inch bike, dont understand how that relates to sml

croker99

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

I'd avoid the front suspension if you are looking for lightweight anyway. Really no use on a bike you are using on the road and adds weight

Do you have a bike at the moment? If not, it might be worth looking for one of these or something similar second hand and saving your B2W for when you get into it a bit more

Which ones of those that I posted don't have the suspension?

No bike at the moment

Tony04

croker99 wrote: »

Which ones of those that I posted don't have the suspension?

No bike at the moment

You might consider getting something second hand to see what type of riding you want to do. You dont want to spend your bike 2 work scheme on a hybrid bike only wishing you ended up getting a road bike a while later.

Tony04

Stheno wrote: »

What is your budget?850
Will you use B2W? Yes
What will you use the bike for? Leisure cycling in the evening about 5k around my area on roads
Any preferences? Road bike
Height/Inseam if asking for size? Height 5 foot 8, instead 34 inches

Online calculators say I need a 23 inch bike, dont understand how that relates to sml

At that size your looking at 52-54cm small or medium frame. Something like this would be nice for you https://www.adverts.ie/road-bikes/orbea-avant-h40-2019-53cm/19805146.

magicbastarder

I've updated the first post to include the question re gender. Stheno is a woman AFAIK, that would be an extremely long inseam on a bloke that height.

Stheno

magicbastarder wrote: »

I've updated the first post to include the question re gender. Stheno is a woman AFAIK, that would be an extremely long inseam on a bloke that height.

Sorry yes I'm female, didnt realise it made such a difference but thinking of my OH who's the same height his inseam is 31

Jean's on the clothesline look funny!

croker99

Tony04 wrote: »

You might consider getting something second hand to see what type of riding you want to do. You dont want to spend your bike 2 work scheme on a hybrid bike only wishing you ended up getting a road bike a while later.

Not interested in 2nd hand, thanks though.

doxy79

What is your budget? 600

Will you use B2W? No

What will you use the bike for? 4 mile each way commute (hilly). Leisure cycling, typically around 10-12 miles through urban areas or greenways.

Any preferences? Probably a hybrid. So far I'm considering the following. Boardman hyb 8.6, Decathlon Triban flat handlebar, Decathlon Riverside 900, Trek FX, Voodoo Marasa, Pinnacle Lithium. Open to other suggestions.

Height? Height 5 foot 10, male

magicbastarder

i would rule out the riverside - you won't need suspension unless you're taking the bike onto rough ground. it'll make the bike heavier and it's just one more thing to go wrong.

also, if it's to be used for commuting, you often won't have much choice about going out on wet days (which are rarer than people think, last winter notwithstanding), so if you're not au fait with bike maintenance, i would suggest that this should swing your choice more towards buying in a LBS (local bike shop) as the water and crud the underneath of your bike would pick up will increase the rate of wear on the drivetrain.

magicbastarder

Stheno wrote: »

Height/Inseam if asking for size? Height 5 foot 8, instead 34 inches

Online calculators say I need a 23 inch bike, dont understand how that relates to sml

i'd suggest calling into a bike shop so to see what the options are; if you've reasonably long legs for your height, it might suggest a larger frame, but you might be too stretched out on the bike then unless your arms are similarly long.

Tony04

Stheno wrote: »

Sorry yes I'm female, didnt realise it made such a difference but thinking of my OH who's the same height his inseam is 31

Yeh I'd suggest trying before your buy unless you want to buy a woman's specific bike. Men and womens bikes are a bit of a marketing fad, but recommending a mans bike for a women over the internet is a bit harder is it's harder to tell if you will fit it. If you do end up buying a mans bike all you need to do is change out the saddle. Also at that price for a road bike I would try and get a bike with a 2x 10 speed tiagra drivetrain(gear system if you dont know what I'm talking about). Alot of bikes at that price would come with claris 2 x8 or sora 2x9 drivetrains but tiagra is going to offer you the best performance.

Tony04

doxy79 wrote: »

What is your budget? 600

Will you use B2W? No

What will you use the bike for? 4 mile each way commute (hilly). Leisure cycling, typically around 10-12 miles through urban areas or greenways.

Any preferences? Probably a hybrid. So far I'm considering the following. Boardman hyb 8.6, Decathlon Triban flat handlebar, Decathlon Riverside 900, Trek FX, Voodoo Marasa, Pinnacle Lithium. Open to other suggestions.

Height? Height 5 foot 10, male

At that price for a hybrid theres a lot of very similar options. One thing though is dont bother with a bike with 3 speeds at the front is it's just extra unessiental maintenance, other than that really go for the bike that you think looks the nicest or if you going to be leaving it outside you work the least nicest , as theres so much of the same thing on offer. No need for a suspension fork which is just going to add weight and alot of annoying maintenance. You might consider looking at a gravel bike if drops interest you. If you're not using b2w something used might be better value.

Tony04

croker99 wrote: »

I guess I am first then... New cyclist here.

What is your budget? ~1,000

Will you use B2W? Yes

What will you use the bike for? Recreation in the work evenings cycling around a ~5km route on a cycle path, bit of exercise, maybe visit a greenway every now and again, cycle in places like castletown house in Celbridge for a bit of fresh air etc. (path there is gravely)


Have a few in my shortlist at the moment, so any comments on these, or alternative suggestions, would be welcome:

https://www.cyclebike.ie/cube-sl-road-race-iridium-green-2020.html

https://www.cyclebike.ie/cube-sl-road-pro-iridium-blue-2020.html

https://rothar.ie/collections/frontpage/products/orbea-vector-10

https://www.halfords.ie/cycling/bikes/all-bikes/526696.html

https://www.halfords.ie/cycling/bikes/all-bikes/526654.html

https://www.halfords.ie/cycling/bikes/all-bikes/528312.html

Thanks. P.S. you can see I was aiming for a lightish bike, based on advice from a friend.

Do you really want flat bars? A gravel bike might be nicer for you?

magicbastarder

i added the comment about the requirement for a suspension fork in the first post.

ampmm

Thanks for any all/advice.. New to cycling and information overload online..


- what is the intended use of the bike (commuting/leisure/just going for a spin with the kids, etc.) - commuting in urban area ~7km each way(comfort is priority)
- what is your budget ~250
- are you using the bike to work scheme - yes
- aer you willing to consider going secondhand - would consider but ideally use b2b
- will you be using the bike in wet weather - unfortunately yes
- how tall you are - 161cm with short legs - female

magicbastarder

is €250 your overall budget, or just for the bike? i.e. have you factored in buying accessories too (lights, lock, etc.)?
and do you mind me asking what tax bracket you're on? if you're on the lower tax bracket you'll barely save above 60 quid and will have to buy a new bike on BTW; i suspect with a budget of €250 you *may* get a better bike if you ignore the BTW scheme and buy secondhand instead.

ccarr

What is your budget?
Will you use B2W? Yes
What will you use the bike for? Going commute 3 days a week starting off, 18km each way, the commute will be clarehall to blanchardstown. Also a spin at the weekends for fun. Based in clarehall so probably cycle to howth etc
Any preferences? I think road bike but maybe hybrid
Height/Inseam if asking for size? 5"7 height

ccarr

Oh would also consider 2nd hand

Tony04

If your commuting along main roads a hybrid would be better, it's more easier to handle throght traffic and stop at lights. Where as a road bike would be lighter and be better for climbing up howth etc.

MojoMaker

Another dimension is: are you looking to get into cycling as a sport or as a mode of transport? If the latter then a full-on road bike is probably the last choice you'd make, but would absolutely be the only choice to make if the former.

Within those two endpoints is a fuzzy middle ground consisting partly of hobbyists that don't really commute, and commuters that like a bit of at greenlaning at the weekend - and for those we have interesting mashups like the gravel bike.

I suspect at this point you're starting to understand why many cyclists, particularly those on the sporting side of the divide, have (often many) more than one bike.

ccarr

Probably learning more to hobby side. With likely hood of no GAA season, trying to think new ways saying fit. I'm 30 years of age in okish fitness, so thinking commuting some days just to get some excerise in. I have car so won't solely be commuting by bike.
Budget wise if going new probably spend maximum that can on bike work scheme, but if possible would like get some gear as well

younggalway

Good evening folks, hoping to take up cycling along with the rest of the country it seems. I am looking for any recommendations people might have based on the following:

What is the intended use of the bike - Bike will be mostly used for exercise/weekend trips to Howth/Malahide etc from D9. However if we get back to work over the coming months I would like the option of using the bike instead of driving. This is a trip of about 7/8km through the city.
What is your budget - Would prefer to keep under 700 including all accessories, less if possible.
Are you using the bike to work scheme - Yes
Are you willing to consider going secondhand - No
Will you be using the bike in wet weather - Possibly for commuting during Winter months
How tall you are - 6'3
Are you looking for a woman's bike or man's bike - Mans

I called into 360 cycles in Clontarf this evening however they said they have limited enough stock in my size in city bikes.
Is a city bike the same as a hybrid?
Also any other places worth looking around North Dublin?

Thanks

Stheno

younggalway wrote: »

Good evening folks, hoping to take up cycling along with the rest of the country it seems. I am looking for any recommendations people might have based on the following:

What is the intended use of the bike - Bike will be mostly used for exercise/weekend trips to Howth/Malahide etc from D9. However if we get back to work over the coming months I would like the option of using the bike instead of driving. This is a trip of about 7/8km through the city.
What is your budget - Would prefer to keep under 700 including all accessories, less if possible.
Are you using the bike to work scheme - Yes
Are you willing to consider going secondhand - No
Will you be using the bike in wet weather - Possibly for commuting during Winter months
How tall you are - 6'3
Are you looking for a woman's bike or man's bike - Mans

I called into 360 cycles in Clontarf this evening however they said they have limited enough stock in my size in city bikes.
Is a city bike the same as a hybrid?
Also any other places worth looking around North Dublin?

Thanks

Ritchies bike store in swords seem to be pretty good if it's not too far?

They got a nice write up in the Irish Times today

Tony04

Jimmy's bikes in portmarnock. Little sport in fairview. Also try halfords. Theres no difference between city and hybrid bikes, but dont bother with suspension forks. Are you sure about using your bike to work, you wont get it for another 5 years and if you get more into cycling you might want a road bike etc.

Tony04

ccarr wrote: »

Probably learning more to hobby side. With likely hood of no GAA season, trying to think new ways saying fit. I'm 30 years of age in okish fitness, so thinking commuting some days just to get some excerise in. I have car so won't solely be commuting by bike.
Budget wise if going new probably spend maximum that can on bike work scheme, but if possible would like get some gear as well

You can use any bike that's working mechanically to keep fit, actually heavier bikes will make you work harder which fitness wise is good. A road bike will perform the best so you can go faster and further for the same effort. But a hybrid, city bike will be more hardier for running errands going to work etc.

Pa ElGrande

Don't forget security if you have laid down a tidy sum for a bike.

Details here on type of lock to use, importantly how to use it properly and don't forget to lock while stored in the shed or at the back of the house. Here is an example of a bike with a cheap lock not used properly being stolen. Even if you don't have bike insurance you can work out how to best secure your bike by reading the security requirements in the policy document. If you have an expensive e-bike these seem to be especially desirable for thieves consider a GPS tracker, may also be worth considering for the most expensive bikes.

Heat_Wave

Female here. Brand new to cycling but would like to take it up to go on long cycles on the weekends or even on weekdays now that I’ll be working from home till 2021 (confirmed).

I’m looking at a 105 for €1,200. Is this a crazy amount to spend when it’s your first bike? It’s a man’s bike.

I’ll be using the bike to work scheme.

Thanks.

Tony04

No that's not a ridiculous amount to pay. You can never pay enough on bikes imo. But seriously a bike with 105 for about 1200 will have pretty much all the same performance as bikes twice the price, only difference is the bike twice the price will use more expensive materials to make it a tad lighter. Is the man bikes your interested in from your local shop?

Pa ElGrande

Heat_Wave wrote: »

Female here. Brand new to cycling but would like to take it up to go on long cycles on the weekends or even on weekdays now that I’ll be working from home till 2021 (confirmed).

I’m looking at a 105 for €1,200. Is this a crazy amount to spend when it’s your first bike? It’s a man’s bike.

I’ll be using the bike to work scheme.

Thanks.

I assume you are talking about a bike with a Shimano 105 groupset. If so I'm curious why that would that be a deciding factor for you? For long distances (say 100KM) I'd value comfort over speed unless you intend to eventually try for Strava KOMs.

Heat_Wave

Tony04 wrote: »

Is the man bikes your interested in from your local shop?

It is. They have 4 females bikes, and dozens of men’s bikes. He told me that the only difference between the two is colour.

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

I assume you are talking about a bike with a Shimano 105 groupset. If so I'm curious why that would that be a deciding factor for you? For long distances (say 100KM) I'd value comfort over speed unless you intend to eventually try for Strava KOMs.

I definitely don’t intend on cycling more than 100k at any one time. I will most likely cycle between Howth and Malahide.

As I said I am a novice. A friend of mine (who is mad into cycling) told me to spend the full €1,000 on a quality bike (Tiagra or 105 minimum, and avoid sora) as I’ll have it for life. I am 100% open to others thoughts on this.

FYI I value comfort over speed. I wouldn’t be into speed. I also value quality and durability.

Thank you in advance.

Really the only difference is in the saddle, if you go with a mens bike get them to swap it out for a women's one.

magicbastarder

Heat_Wave wrote: »

I’m looking at a 105 for €1,200. Is this a crazy amount to spend when it’s your first bike?

yes and no. yes, in the sense that's quite an investment to make in something you're taking someone else's word on, especially in regards to size; if you get that wrong it may put you off cycling. go to more than one shop - most of them are decent sorts and will try to see you right, but a second opinion is well worth the time.

Heat_Wave

magicbastarder wrote: »

yes and no. yes, in the sense that's quite an investment to make in something you're taking someone else's word on, especially in regards to size; if you get that wrong it may put you off cycling. go to more than one shop - most of them are decent sorts and will try to see you right, but a second opinion is well worth the time.

Hey Magic Bastarder

I went to a shop today and was sized. I’m a medium. The sales guy was recommending a Tiagra at €1,000. When I went home, I did some research and found an incredible looking one online in my two favourite colours, and it’s €1,200, but 105 gear group. If it’s something I’ll have for life, I’d rather spend the extra €200 on one which I find aesthetically pleasing.

However, do I even need to be going for a Tiagra or 105 gear group? Why has both my friend and today’s salesman told me to avoid a sora (9 gears AFAIK, as opposed to 11 gears). What’s so beneficial about having 11 as opposed to 9? Will I even notice the difference as a beginner? As I said, I only plan on cycling between Howth/Malahide/Clontarf on the weekends at a leisurely pace.

Basically Sora is 9 speed and 105 is 11 but in most cases they have the same highest and lowest gears. With more gears the gaps between them are smaller so moving up and down them is smoother.

Is the bike online the same brand as the one in the shop? There can be differences in sizing between them.

EDIT: Seeing where you plan to cycle I'd be of the opinion thats too much bike for the task at hand and you could happily get around there on a good hybrid for half the price

Tony04

Also 105 brakes would be probably better than sora. The way shimano drivetrains work is the more you go up the more features you get, main difference is number of sprockets in the rear, until 105 after they just use the same design but lighter features. So yeah tiagra and sora are perfectly fine but 105 might be nicer to have.

magicbastarder

what height are you? medium is usually for someone in (very very roughly, depends on the manufacturer) 5'8" to 6' range.
if you're not planning on banjaxing yourself up howth hill, for example, i see no issue with going for sora; the benefit of extra gears is quite often that the relative jump between gears is smaller, so it's easier to find a specific gear which suits.

but if, as you mention, the bike is going to be used for leisurely spins generally on the flat, you'd probably be spending money you don't need to by going for 105, or even tiagra. the only thing wrong with sora is that there's better available, but it's just at greater expense. and you will possibly also want to buy other things too, such as a helmet, cycling shorts, etc. which will add to the cost.

Tony04

Also if your planning on buying a bike for the long term buying something with disc brakes might be worth considering.

Heat_Wave

magicbastarder wrote: »

what height are you? medium is usually for someone in (very very roughly, depends on the manufacturer) 5'8" to 6' range.

I am 5”8.

magicbastarder wrote: »

If you're not planning on banjaxing yourself up howth hill.

I definitely don’t plan on this

In terms of brand, I’ve been looking at Bianchi (love the colour) and Cannondale. Are both as good as the other?

Pa ElGrande

Heat_Wave wrote: »

FYI I value comfort over speed. I wouldn’t be into speed. I also value quality and durability.

Thank you in advance.

Consider the fit, men tend to have broader shoulders so the handlebars may be wider than you expect and men also tend to have longer torsos so you may prefer a shorter stem size. None of those will stop you cycling, its more about agility and the parts can be changed to better suit afterwards with more experience on your part, everyones body size is different so the bikes available may suit you out of the box. You probably will want a women's specific saddle so ask the shop what they have available and try them out.

.red.

Another lad here looking for advice.

What is your budget?
€350-€400 max
Will you use B2W?
If I keep it up and want to upgrade I have that option when I get back to work but realistically that will be another 2 months, maybe a little more so for now, second hand is my only option.
What will you use the bike for?
Mainly for exercise/fitness/weight loss. Currently doing a 16km loop on a mountain bike. Another few spins and I'll up that to about 20km and go up gradually from there to maybe 30/35km. Not sure if it's relevant but the roads are a mix of rural and main road, the rural road has a lot of hills, I'm finding them tough but getting up them slowly. The main road is fairly flat bar a few low gradient longer stretches.
Any preferences?
Here's where my confusion comes in so sorry if it's long winded.
I'd rather a road bike, but for no reason in particular. I've borrowed a neighbors Carrera Zelos and liked the different feel to it over the mountain bike but think it's a little too big. I find holding the downbars uncomfortable when pedalling, but grand going downhill to grab the breaks. Along the flat longer main roads I find myself holding on at the gear/brake lever as it feels more natural. I've a few slightly bulging discs in my lower back and bending seems to make them flare up so I definitely don't want to be over stretching for long periods. His bike comes in 51/54cm and I'm guessing it's a 54 as he's over 6ft. It's not marked anywhere that I can find
Height/Inseam if asking for size?
I'm 5'9, inseam 32cm.

I'm currently scouring done deal and adverts but still unsure what I want or what size. Charts put me at 54 or 56cm. I'm thinking a 54cm road bike might have me slightly more upright that a bigger bike, but also read that some bikes will have a slightly higher riding position anyway. Another option is a flat bar road bike but very few of them for sale, especially in my budget.
Any ideas on what to look out for?
Thanks for reading and apologies if my post is a bit long.

Pa ElGrande

Heat_Wave wrote: »

In terms of brand, I’ve been looking at Bianchi (love the colour) and Cannondale. Are both as good as the other?

If you are looking for a 105 groupset then both brands are likely to blow your €1,200 budget especially Bianchi, unless you are looking in the secondhand market or clearance sales.

Speaking of budgets, don't forget the extras like cycle clothing (we gets lots of weather in Ireland), bike locks, bike pumps etc, that's probably another €200/300 on top of the bike purchase.

Brandon F

I am about to pull the trigger on either a Bianchi Via Nirone 7 or a Cube Attain SL. The only advantage of the Cube I can see are the disc brakes. Any advice on which to choice as there are limited options of availalbility out there at the minute.

magicbastarder

.red. wrote: »

Height/Inseam if asking for size?
I'm 5'9, inseam 32cm.

I'm currently scouring done deal and adverts but still unsure what I want or what size. Charts put me at 54 or 56cm. I'm thinking a 54cm road bike might have me slightly more upright that a bigger bike

56cm would be very large for someone of your height - i'd even say that traditionally, 54cm would be at the upper range, especially if you're worried about being too stretched out.
bear in mind however, that sitting upright on a bike can put more pressure down through the spine, especially if on bumpy roads, than being stretched out. but being stretched out puts pressure on different parts, e.g. lower back muscles.

the advice usually is that it's easier to make a small bike big than making a big bike small.

magicbastarder

Brandon F wrote: »

I am about to pull the trigger on either a Bianchi Via Nirone 7 or a Cube Attain SL. The only advantage of the Cube I can see are the disc brakes. Any advice on which to choice as there are limited options of availalbility out there at the minute.

Bianchi bikes are a little cooler than cube, but if they're the same price, and the cube is similarly specced except for the hydraulic brakes, i'd say that gives it the edge.

byrnem31

Add my 2 cent in.

I just changed from tiagra to 105 and I much prefer the 105. Tiagra was like it had a gear missing between 6 and 7. It was too hard or too easy when cycling on them gears and I wanted something in between. Claris was the same too. It's not like that on the 105, good spread of gears and very snappy.

I have had 4 bikes in the past year all with the different brakes out there. Hydraulic is what I have now and it's the best by a mile. Way more control particularly in the wet and doesn't screech like a banshee.

I would dig deeper and buy a better bike. It will be more comfortable to ride, lighter, easier to cycle and have better parts.

I have a 2020 giant advanced 2 that cost €2250. Did I need it, no. Did I want it ? Damm right and after getting it I want to get more into cycling which means i dont need to upgrade one thing on the bike. It has it all.

If i had of bought cheaper, i would want to trade up by now.

fits

- what is the intended use of the bike ~ tipping around with the kids
- what is your budget ~ 500
- are you using the bike to work scheme - no
- aer you willing to consider going secondhand - yes
- will you be using the bike in wet weather - yes
- how tall you are - 164cm female

Had both a hybrid and road bike in the past. A giant avail and a trek hybrid. I sold them both when I developed neck and shoulder problems ( not from cycling but problem was aggravated). Now want to be able to tip around with kids on something comfortable. Electric bike would be ideal but prob not willing to fork out so much yet.