Journalism and Cycling 2: the difficult second album

Tombo2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117840543#Comment_117840543

Hard not to look past the very first sentence, which places the blame for risk squarely with the cyclist. Maybe it was more balanced through the article but I couldnt be bothered.....

Wildly Boaring

Well her earphones get caught in her own wheel so probably is her fault

magicbastarder

i know someone who came a cropper in vaguely similar circumstances, IIRC he had a backpack slung over one shoulder, came to a junction, indicated, and the backpack ended up in his spokes.

TheChizler

Similar here, coil lock dislodged on the way to an exam. Flipped right over the front wheel. Loose things are no good!

magicbastarder

nice to see on the front page

zell12

Cyclists and pedestrians don't pay "road tax" says garda

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/road-users-urged-to-share-the-space-amid-rural-road-wrangle/

Seth Brundle

In fairness, he is not wrong!

magicbastarder

https://mobile.twitter.com/TodaywithClaire/status/1434825178719170563

I think it has already aired, going by the responses to the tweet.

Hurrache

Saw that thread, there's no way that the kid was wearing the helmet when it got ran over by the truck.

Podge_irl

A bicycle helmet isn't going to make any functional difference in an accident like that. I'd be more inclined to believe the kid wasn't wearing it properly and it came off in the fall.

Thelonious Monk

Caught the end of what must have been the cycling segment, Claire was reading out a text giving out about empty cycling lanes and all the money wasted on them and who's paying for them etc. The f**kers on RTE and Newstalk love to keep this phony war going.

Duckjob

I'm very relieved that it we're hearing a good luck story and the lad is ok.

That said I'm really struggling to understand how the helmet saved the lads life, yet ended up like it is in the picture - Did it stay in one piece while the truck wheel was going over it and then explode a few seconds later ?

Also, absolutely no discussion about what the distance was between the lad and the truck. I know the Dad said the driver was being cautious, but how much of a wobble just someone need to make to travel more than 1 meter laterally from their cycling line.

Just all about the helmet. What I took from the reporting of this story is that is that we still have a massive blind spot about read road safety and how very inappropriately comfortable we are about mixing heavy vehicles and people in small spaces.

Tombo2001

So there is lady on twitter saying the wheel of the lorry went over his head, and he survived. I do find that incredibly difficult to believe. Nonetheless, it would be good if RTE could confirm it.

Because if true, its an incredible advertisement for wearing helmets.

If not, then what role if any did the helmet play

And also - could they run a feature on the many cyclists killed who werent protected by helmets.

magicbastarder

i briefly crossed swords with her, pointing out that a helmet was not capable of that; her response was 'did you listen to the interview?'

tomasrojo

A truck driving over your head is way, way, way beyond the design limitations, which is the force equivalent to about 5kg falling 1 or 2m.

Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117854374#Comment_117854374

Yeah, that's just not true. A helmet will save you from cuts and abrasions and will provide some minor protection from an impact, it will do absolutely piss all to help in a truck rolling over your head.

Tombo2001

But probably the relevant piece here - is not that she said it; but that she listened to the piece, and thats what she took from it. Thats what she believed happened having listened to the piece.

ARX

Easy to settle the matter with a truck, a helmet and a watermelon (or a volunteer if Lidl is out of watermelons).

p15574

Newstalk's "Lunchtime Live" today is just about to discuss the subject "are there too many cycle lanes"? 😡

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117857762#Comment_117857762

For Christ's sake didn't they have an anti-cycling hour yesterday too? Wtf are they playing at? Pandering to their audience I suppose many of whom are driving around all day doing various jobs and need to vent their frustrations on something.

check_six

Truck driver is on the radio now saying that cyclists need to watch out for learner and novice drivers because they just won't look out for cyclists before turning across them. He has some kind of problem with cycling lanes, but he is not the most articulate, so it is mostly incomprehensible.

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117857762#Comment_117857762

I tuned in. Some fell from Limerick whinging about them. Some nuggets: "empty cycle lanes", "underutilised cycle lanes", "destruction of Dublin", "waste", "have to be mindful of traffic", "wheelchairs and other diabilities", "good thing in the long run but at the minute, it's not", "not being planned properly & putting cyclists at risk"

Typical crap from Newstalk

Thelonious Monk

I used to enjoy listening to Pat Kenny in the mornings but after hearing him go on about cyclists I realised it was best avoided as is any radio show when the subject comes up, unless I want to higher my blood pressure and anxieties.

check_six

Typical exchange was along the lines of:

"Describe the cycle lane."

"Well, do you know *mutters some mildly obscure landmark*?, well there's a lane up the middle. And parking. And a lane. And there are cars."

Difficult to decipher what is going on

I had to switch it off.

tomasrojo

On the bright side:

https://twitter.com/ArKli93/status/1435185750706987011

(Substitute "the more you approach a modest level of adequacy", maybe)

p15574

"If I work in the city centre I should be able to park in the city centre".

And then saying that there are footpaths 6 foot wide, and if cycle lanes are required, these should be split in two for pedestrians and cyclists. God forbid that motorists lose their on-street parking paid for by the taxpayer to store their private property.

tomasrojo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117857923#Comment_117857923

Cyclists are very entitled

magicbastarder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117857814#Comment_117857814

begs the question; was he an artic driver or an inartic driver?

Duckjob

Tony from Cork complaining about the bollards.

"You can't drive into the bicycle track!" . That's the mentality you're trying to make a rational argument against folks.