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  • Registered Users Posts: 432 ✭✭gaillimh


    Yeah that's it exactly. I've been able to get a set of three Eero 6 Pro units for €200. Thinking I'll make proper use of them when fibre finally arrives here.

    I wouldn't have paid full price for them right now but think €200 is good value as I'd have to buyt something one way or another given that the wifi range is apparently poor with the Starlink router.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭NabyLadistheman


    I have Eir TV and the Eir router disconnected since I got it. Works without issue



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Thanks, so you run the cable from the wall socket to your Google wifi with the eir modem set to bridge mode and it works ok?

    The eir modem is not plugged in at all?



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭54and56


    Hi all,

    I invested in a Taotronic Tri-Band AC3000 triple router Mesh System in 2021 for my house and it's been bullet proof.

    I now need to buy a system for single floor apartment of circa 1,300 Sq Ft and Taotronic no longer sell their Mesh system so I'm looking for a steer on what system I should go for as I'm sure things have moved on in the last couple of years and whether a 2 router or 3 router system is needed to give strong coverage throughout the property.

    Appreciate any suggestions you may have.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭jem


    Hi

    I have eir router FTTH also have 3 of their mesh units ( due to a row they gave them to me for free )

    want to boost my signal outside. What could I put one of their mesh units into that keep it dry but no effect wifi signal.

    On another note I have an ORBI RBR50 and two satilites. can I connect these to the eir network as boosters without changing my eir router? bridge or something?

    james



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Curently have Virgin with Google Nest WiFi. Eir FTTH now available in our estate - I wasn't here when the sales guy was around, but told my wife we 'wouldn't need' mesh with the Eir router. I assume this is nonsense? We have a standard enough 4 bed semi-d, use mesh for upstairs home office and kitchen extension/back garden. I have seen some talk that there are issues with Google and Eir but this seems to be solved by using bridge mode or turning off WiFi on the Eir router?



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    I have Eir broadband and use Nest mesh wifi... Haven't had any issues yet...



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Hi lads, have been trying for months to sort out the nest vs eir router problem we often hsve.

    Is there a dummys guide to putting your eir router into bridge mode?

    Do you run the cable from the wall socket to your Google wifi with the eir modem set to bridge mode?

    Is the eir modem is not plugged in at all?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,279 ✭✭✭Damien360


    I have google nest WiFi mesh setup since 2020 and for the last few weeks it's loosing connection to one of the satellites. Reboot the main router and it works again for a few days. Currently connected to VF fibre.

    I reckon my system is giving up but I can't get replacements for any of the units as it's no longer made and they just sell the newer WiFi 6 models which is not cheap.

    Anyone recommend alternatives that will do the trick or a reliable source for spare satellites and main router. Or anything else that works reliablely and won't be out of date so quickly.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    You can still get the original one and it'll work perfectly with your system...

    I managed to get one refurbished for €59.


    https://store.google.com/ie/product/google_wifi_2nd_gen?hl=en-GB



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭dam099


    If the Eir modem is not plugged in at all that's not bridge mode. In bridge mode it would be Socket -> Eir Router -> Nest Main Unit. Bridge mode is selected in the ISP's router and changes it from acting as a Router/Modem to just a Modem leaving routing to your Nest.

    If you have FTTH then you can bypass the Eir device completely if your Nest model supports VLAN tagging and connect it directly to the wall (ONT).



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Thanks, yes we have FTTH but I'm not sure if our Nest is compatible with your last point (it's not that new).



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,576 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    Dont get these consumer meshes. Get a proper Ubiquiti access points



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,279 ✭✭✭Damien360


    What would be a good mesh system from them that would be comparable or better than google wifi 6 offering. I’m in the market for something to replace my failing google Nest wifi.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,576 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    You can buy Ubiquiti access points that provide meshing with Wifi 6. The big thing is that they need a home network. You need backhaul on ethernet



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    What a load of utter shite!

    Do not get a high end system, they are expensive, complex to set-up and maintain and cost allot more to buy & run than a consumer model!

    Most people don't have huge requirements on their system, they just need reliable coverage throughout a house and good speeds and able to handle whatever home automation stuff they have. In that case, most consumer mesh systems are well up to the task.

    If you are an extreme gamer or are running a porn farm, then consider Ubiquity... In either of those cases you're unlikely to be on boards asking for recommendations, you'll already know.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,687 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    id disagree, a ubiquiti system doesn't have to be that expensive at all, not that complex to set up and I havent had any noticeable maintenance or higher running costs.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    so you'd advise anyone to use this system over a mesh wifi! What is your recommendation for the wires needed between units? chased through the walls and floors, pinned to the walls & up the stairs? pull off all of the skirting boards and hide the cabling behind them, or just move into a new, prewired house?



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,687 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    you can see above which if your points i disagreed with to be fair, and if you dont have some level of ethernet wiring in the house maybe not suitable, but it is certainly better and ive seen people who could use it instead going for mesh units when they really shouldnt.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    But that's not what was said... Nor was it implied:

    Dont get these consumer meshes. Get a proper Ubiquiti access points



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,576 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    I agree that for some it is too complicated and too expensive. But if you shop around, i reckon you could get two Ubiquiti access points for 200-250 which is enough for many houses. The most important thing is wired backhaul, whether it is Google Nest or Ubiquti. That if what people should be encouraged to do, when their houses are suitable. I know loads of people in new builds using mesh networks despite owning a prewired house.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    I have a relatively new build which was prewired for ethernet into every room. Have a TP Link Deco mesh network with ethernet backhaul, it's probably overkill though for the size of my house but works great


    Edit: This is connecting to node furthest from the main node which is connected to the ont, maybe 30m and a few walls


    Post edited by youcancallmeal on


  • Registered Users Posts: 962 ✭✭✭gabbo is coming


    Hi, just got VMs sagemcom modem for 1Gb

    Getting 700mb on the VM modem


    When I check my tplink s4s, I'm getting less than previous, getting about 170. But full 50 upload


    I've changed the QOS setting on the deco, anything else?



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,400 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    This is the key but many still don't see it. It is well worth anyone's while trying to run some Cat5e in the house between where the ISP comes into the house and the AP locations or indeed directly to any devices with ethernet. Whether it has to be tacked to skirting, in trunking, under carpet etx if you can get the white cabling it can be very well hidden out of eyeline etc. Some of the kit being discussed here is big money but without decent quality back backbone it will be limited.

    I have a Ubiquiti Dream machine and a basic Ubiquiti accesspoint up stairs. Both were second hand, sold by someone no doubt who wasnt able to set it up. I only have a small bit of ethernet backhaul yet but very good coverage throughput the house. I was able to move the ingress point for broadband into the house from one corner of the house into a more central location when going from copper to fibre which has helped in a major way with coverage.

    I've also ran some ethernet from there to one of the rooms with the heavy usage machines are which has been a significant improvement.

    Seeing some people consider moving on equipment after less than three years use is worrying. It should make one consider investing in some ethernet cable and less flashy gizmos.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    I have a Nest mesh setup with three points, about 50 home automation devices and achieve close to 500mb down and 59mb up throughout the house... I have no **** wires running across walls, haven't had to lift my skirting boards or floorboards.

    Please explain why a backend system would benefit me?



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,687 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus




  • Registered Users Posts: 18,400 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Its not a backend "system" - its just running copper between some of your AP and main router/ONT/ISP device.

    Not saying it would benefit you per se - but there are many who have posted on this thread that would benefit greatly from some CAT5e between AP's and router/ONT/ISP device.

    There's not that much to running cable and based, again on some of the posts on this thread, it would save people a lot of time and money over time, depending on their circumstances.

    As I said, I've a 10 - 20 odd metres ran along skirting board that you'd barely notice with cheap second hand equipment that works perfectly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭Bluefoam




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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,687 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    looks like its working well so, how do you get 59mb up? is it not normally 500/50? in any event doesnt seem like you need it but i think you are over exaggerating how complex or difficult it is.

    Regardless for me my whole house is cat 6 wired so a mesh system would be stupid in my scenario.



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