Venom: Let There Be Carnage

JP Liz V1

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Fcek

EoinMcLovin

Yeah in this day and age having this coming out in Europe 2 weeks later is idiotic. You'd have to be wary of spoilers for the 2 weeks. Tempted to just watch a cam version

Zero-Cool

I watched the post credits scene, no way I'm avoiding that until i get to see it. Glad i did as well.

EoinMcLovin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117971556#Comment_117971556

Well, I ended up watching the full movie online, found it alright. Post credit scene definitely makes things interesting

The Phantom Pain

90 million domestic opening. Incredible. 

I think a few factors are at play as to why:

1. Shang Chi. The general audience doesn't distinguish much between superhero franchises; a rising tide raises all ships as it were so the goodwill from that film seeped into Venom, I think.
2. The first one was even more liked by audiences than previously realised. It had a mid 90s charm to it that many enjoyed, including myself.
3. I think just by the virtue of Venom being a Spider-Man villain from the comics really helped it as people are going nuts for No Way Home due to the whole multiverse thing.

Because of Sony's dumb decision to spread out the release dates I watched the post credits scene on youtube before it would be inevitably spoiled through word-of-mouth and 👀

gmisk

I saw it this morning, good bit of fun, doesn't outstay it's welcome, and an improvement over the first one (what was ok at best I thought)

Really leaned into the venom versus Brock thing, buddie movie style and humour. It's definitely not top tier superhero/villain stuff, but Harrelson and Hardy have fun chewing the scenery. Nothing surprising really the post credit, predictable.

7/10

AMKC

So I seen this today. There was parts I liked and other parts I thought he should have been over by now. It takes a little while to get going. Myself I think the first film is better. There is a decent bit of humour in this one too do and a few surprises as well.

I take it that its doing well and there will be a third one. I hope they leave it at that.

There was a couple in the screen I was in with an 8 year old child disgracfull. The poor kid looked like he did not want to be there but to be somewhere else. Not a film for a child.

JP Liz V1

Woody was Nic Cage hamming it up, OTT but entertaining

gmisk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118032411#Comment_118032411

I checked and it's a 15A seemingly.

I suppose they get away with it due to lack of blood etc

I was at a preview of once upon a time in Hollywood....kid in front was about 7/8 I would say...

JP Liz V1

Was Stephen Graham's character left dead or alive? All I heard from him was saying monsters but he had weird eyes, something in him?

The Golden Miller

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His character is Toxin. Carnage's "son". Strongest of all the symbiotes apparently, would go toe to toe with Hulk, but is good, guided by Spiderman

Agent Coulson

It’s not great and about on par with the first one.

However one thing that stands to it is it’s run time a straight up 90 minute superhero movie something the rest of the MCU could learn from instead of continuous 3 hours of over told stories and action scenes they pump out.

The Golden Miller

Very good film for what it was. Can't do much more without it being a CGI mess. Carnage's visuals and scream were spot on, growled like a Velociraptor. Only thing they got wrong was the teeth, doesn't have teeth, red spikes. And when he opens his mouth, has a light, like fire in his throat which looks good.

Only criticism would be in relation to the comic history. For example, Venom being scared or taking a back step to Carnage. Nonsense, Venom has no fear of Carnage, even though he knows he's weaker. Would die going down fighting. Disrespectful to the character, he actively seeks Carnage out to kill him in the comics, no fear of him.

Other thing I didn't like was on top of the church, Carnage expanding and making Venom look small and useless. Carnage can do that, but so can Venom. Carnage should never be more visually imposing than Venom, even if stronger.

The Golden Miller

Do we need spoiler tags in this thread to discuss the end of the film?

The Golden Miller

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118043582#Comment_118043582

They are refreshing, sick of the MCU tbh. Even if they are worse objectively, they are a welcome addition as they are different. Always wanted Marvel to get the rights of Spiderman back, but not so sure anymore.

Sony's Spiderman world is different and a good thing. Always felt Marvel wanted his properties back, to get Norman Osborn, moreso than Spiderman himself. Osborn is Marvel's Joker, and the MCUs one criticism is poor villains. Osborn has transcended Spiderman to be Marvel's ultimate villain for all the hero's. He's the ultimate villain in many different ways, and the Green Goblin alone, probably their most famous character behind Spiderman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118043785#Comment_118043785

Yes please.

EoinMcLovin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118043785#Comment_118043785

probably for a week or so especially since its a big spoiler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118043840#Comment_118043840

Ah jaysus! Now I know theres a big spoiler. It's like having your friend tell you there a twist in a movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTc4zI_7-Ms

JP Liz V1

Venom: Let There Be Carnage' has become the second film during the pandemic to surpass $200 million at the domestic box office

magic_murph

Watched it last night and wished I hadn't

What an absolute bag of steaming Sh1t.

More of a buddy movie / rom-com.

Venom with a glowstick necklace - WTF.

Terrible acting, Tom Hardy is much better than this so hope he got PAID to be in it. Woody was not really needed but not hate towards the man.

Terrible CGI, Terrible story, Just terrible from start to finish.

Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.

More "Odd Couple" vibe than buddy movie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225203#Comment_118225203

One review I read said they had forgotten what made Venom(first movie) so good to begin with. I watched it a few weeks ago and really enjoyed it, despite it being my third or 4th watch.

Regarding Venom 2, the premise of Woody Harrelson being Carnage means it should be absolutely phenomenal. Its very disappointing to hear its a turd of a film.

Blazer

Thought the first one was miles better, this felt very short and missing scenes.

ancapailldorcha

I don't normally nitpick but there was no explanation of where the symbiotes come from. It seems that anyone who gets scratched by one and lives gets a new one of their own.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118237746#Comment_118237746

Watched it tonight. Here are my thoughts:

How is it possible that a movie can feel short but also have bits that felt long and boring?

I'd give it 5/10. There were a couple of times I laughed out loud, like the two hens being called Sonny and Cher.

But the story was weak.

Woody harrelson might have phoned in his performance, but its also possible he didnt have much to work with.

Kleetus getting the symbiote was very weak to begin with.

The start did drag on a bit.

It could have been so much better.

rovaj

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Well said!

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118258371#Comment_118258371

It's a good point, to be fair.

Niska

Marvel have put the post credit scene up on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1_ovGRwI8w

Homelander

So first of all, I actually genuinely enjoyed this - a lot more than the first film, it really embraces the silliness and it flows better.

My biggest gripe with the movie isn't the short runtime in itself, but the fact it feels like tons of stuff was slashed in the editing room, or is that just me.

Some scenes are paced normally and others are rushed through in a wierd, frenetic way that feels totally off.

It's like they had a fully completed 2 hour movie and then someone ordered it cut down to 90m.

Tom Hardy is alright, Stephen Graham and Woody Harrelson are given barely anything to work with and the character development is astoundingly.....well, outright absent. But yeah, overall it was a bit of fun and I actually enjoyed it more than The Eternals or Shang Chi.

Surprised it's a 15A. The content is really no worse than standard Marvel fare, basically no graphic violence and a few sh*ts and one use of f*ck, though maybe it's the context of venom eating heads. Had I known it was a 15A beforehand I would've definitely expected a harder film.

Overall it's decent fun and the post credits scene was cool, I had no idea that was on the cards.