Venom: Let There Be Carnage

Agent Coulson

Vemon 2 has a title and a release date 25.06.21

mikhail

I'm a little surprised anyone is announcing release dates with the future of cinema theatres more or less in the balance at the moment. But maybe the studios want to lay down markers so they can shuffle their other movies into those slots later if they need to.

Slydice

Could just be putting a pin in it because all the other film studios are shuffling about so much at the moment.

pixelburp

I get people loved Venom, and surprised a lot of folk by doing well in the box-office, but I couldn't be more "meh" about a sequel. Venom's a good character but think on his own, is more suited to a TV series than a blockbuster film. The film sanded off all the rough edges into this weird, tonally inconsistent feature that was a bit of a mess.

p to the e

When your bad guy looks like this then you might be in trouble.

JP Liz V1

Andy Serkis is set to direct with Naomie Harris as Shriek, Carnage’s love interest

Potential-Monke

I look forward to it. Thought the first was excellent, had the right tone, the right amount of humour and I think Hardy nailed the performance insofar as going between not knowing what was going on and accepting it. Surprised me really, but I did go into it not expecting much. Must give it another watch again and update my comment if I'm not remembering correctly.

I wasn't a comic kid, so I probably don't have as good a memory of Carnage as others might, but I think Harrelson could pull it off. I'm looking forward to it!

Homelander

Did people love Venom, though? It was fairly panned, I thought the first while was pretty good but it turns into a mess in the 2nd half of the movie, it feels like different movies mashed together. I would say it belongs closer to the bottom of the pile of mainstream comic book movies. Watchable but not a good movie.

pixelburp

Homelander wrote: »

Did people love Venom, though? It was fairly panned, I thought the first while was pretty good but it turns into a mess in the 2nd half of the movie, it feels like different movies mashed together. I would say it belongs closer to the bottom of the pile of mainstream comic book movies. Watchable but not a good movie.

It made $860 million at the box-office from a $100 million budget; that's a helluva return either way so while yup - it definitely didn't set the world alight - that's sequel money right there.

Homelander

I'm not talking about that though, more how it was received. Critics didn't like it, audiences thought it was OK.

Suicide Squad is similar, made good money which greenlit a sequel but it was slated by critics and audiences thought it was weak at best.

pixelburp

Homelander wrote: »

I'm not talking about that though, more how it was received. Critics didn't like it, audiences thought it was OK.

Suicide Squad is similar, made good money which greenlit a sequel but it was slated by critics and audiences thought it was weak at best.

No I get that, but TBH there's a point where the money made far outstrips the hazy reception. As you say, Suicide Squad had strips torn of it - but it also made an obscene amount of money.

My own reckoning is just that Sony are desperate: they've seen a few attempts to (re)launch franchises or hits over the last few years & come up short. Ghostbusters or Men in Black to name but two. Spider-Man isn't even their full property anymore. Venom was a big hit, they'll take what they can get.

Mr Crispy

Can we at least all agree that "Venom: Let There Be Carnage" is a terrible ****ing title?

Agent Coulson

Due to open now on September 24th this year.

EoinMcLovin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ezfi6FQ8Ds

Cotts72

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ezfi6FQ8Ds

Think it could be all action symbiote fest and I'm all for it. Like how venom and Eddie are pretty much as is from the comics now

Brief_Lives

very cool trailer, almost Deadpool-esque....

i'll be honest, i would wacth woody have a bath, he is that awesome...

El Duda

Genuinely one of the worst trailers i've ever seen.

Almost as bad as James Gunn's suicide squad trailer.

Agent Coulson

I wish they hadn't shown Carnage in the trailer and held off till the film itself for that.

JP Liz V1

Brief_Lives wrote: »

very cool trailer, almost Deadpool-esque....

i'll be honest, i would wacth woody have a bath, he is that awesome...

Woody and Tom Hardy in a bath :P

I can't wait to get to the cinema again

I've just seen Tom Hardy's Audi car ad

Mr Crispy

I'm basing this on very little, sure... but Woody looks to be enjoying himself.

The Golden Miller

Have been waiting to see this showdown since this new era of comic book films started in the early 00s, but I think they've waited years too long for this to be a big deal anymore. People will still go and see it though

Full_Circle_81

I haven't seen the first movie (just the trailers) but I get the impression that they've turned Venom into a bit of an anti-hero. Is that a route they took in the comics or is it more to do with the fact that Sony don't have Spider-Man anymore, so they are turning all the villains into heroes?

2smiggy

Full_Circle_81 wrote: »

I haven't seen the first movie (just the trailers) but I get the impression that they've turned Venom into a bit of an anti-hero. Is that a route they took in the comics or is it more to do with the fact that Sony don't have Spider-Man anymore, so they are turning all the villains into heroes?

ya he turned into an anti-hero in the comics anyway I believe. Should watch the first one. enjoyable film !!

Balmed Out

Homelander wrote: »

Did people love Venom, though? It was fairly panned, I thought the first while was pretty good but it turns into a mess in the 2nd half of the movie, it feels like different movies mashed together. I would say it belongs closer to the bottom of the pile of mainstream comic book movies. Watchable but not a good movie.

Not a massive superhero film fan but look at them all to see if suitable for the kids, venom wasnt but is hands down my favourite superhero movie.

The Golden Miller

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Have been waiting to see this showdown since this new era of comic book films started in the early 00s, but I think they've waited years too long for this to be a big deal anymore. People will still go and see it though

No he was always an anti-hero after the original storyline when we was the bad guy against Spider-Man. Takes him and Spiderman to beat Carnage though, so don't know how it will pan out without Spiderman.

EoinMcLovin

https://youtu.be/-FmWuCgJmxo

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Slydice

That looks mad!

Sonics2k

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117130647#Comment_117130647

The best way to put it is that the movies just skipped straight to the part of the comics were Venom and Eddie move to San Francisco after Eddie realises he doesn't actually want to be a bad guy, but the presence of Spider-Man in New York just drives him mad. So the movies just kinda pretend Spider-Man isn't a thing, and Venom has no connection to him.

EoinMcLovin

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1425874473908154374?s=19

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Sad Professor

I fail to see what they think pushing it back 2 weeks is going to achieve.

Agent Coulson

So it wouldn't go head to head with Bond maybe.

EoinMcLovin

I think its down to the delta wave and the studio not being sure if they will get people going to the cinema in the US

Sad Professor

Seems they were toying with it delaying it to January as well. Crazy. The film was originally supposed to be released in Oct 2020. I assume the UK/Irish release is unaffected?

pjohnson

After the poor box office of The Suicide Squad and Black Widow they just want to wait it out.

johnny_ultimate

Yeah two weeks is a uselessly short delay if Delta is their true motivation here. And it would be weird if that isn’t their motivation, as they’re just pushing it into a busy October for releases.

Sad Professor

Black Widow did great considering people could have stayed at home and torrented it instead.

johnny_ultimate

It’ll certainly be interesting to see how the first batch of ‘no simultaneous online release’ superhero films do. Can’t judge anything from Black Widow or The Suicide Squad as they’re online in 4K simultaneously.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117744292#Comment_117744292

When can we expect it here?

EoinMcLovin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117744458#Comment_117744458

Hard to tell, I'd say sometime between September and October. Some films do release early here compared to the US.

EoinMcLovin

https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1430269962204102668?s=19

Looks like it's delayed again, also they must have given up on Morbius since they are pushing it back again

pixelburp

Man, Morbius is going to tank so hard when it eventually comes out. That film gives no impression the studio has any faith in it whatsoever.

Agent Coulson

I can see Sony hyping Morbius as an MCU crossover when it does get a release using Michael Keaton as a focal point even if he only has a small screen time.

pjohnson

It'll be very hard to hype Keaton enough that people will forget its a movie starring the actor that was widely regarded as the worst Joker ever.

Cotts72

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117802350#Comment_117802350

One bad rule hardly defines an actor, so For argument sake alot of ppl regarded Ben affleck as the worst batman ever.. Does that mean people will never go to a Ben affleck movie again?

flazio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117804412#Comment_117804412

Come on, Worse than Clooney?

Stone Deaf 4evr

Off topic, but I personally loved affleck as batman, and moreso bruce wayne, old, tired, and beyond giving a feck about petty criminals.

That scene at the beginning of BvS where he found the girl in the rubble, while the two Demigods of Supes and Zod battled it out laying waste to the city overhead was one of my favourite in the cinematic DCU. the way he looks skyward, and frowns, you know hes already starting to plot how to take them down.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117804412#Comment_117804412

I'm hugely biased against the man and own it, but Morbius may go some way to demonstrate if Jared Leto is Star enough to entice for what's a relatively unknown, side character within a much more interesting world. IIRC, generally he has acted as second fiddle, or part of a larger ensemble. His Joker was awful but wouldn't say that's the silver bullet for audiences either way.

EoinMcLovin

https://twitter.com/DexertoMarvel/status/1432719568628297731?s=19

Still on track for October release, the report on a delay was debunked the following day, forgot to post about it

Full_Circle_81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831358#Comment_117831358

That is one hideous poster 😄

There is barely any distinction between Venom and Carnage up top and I'm generally not a fan of the whole "floating heads" approach to posters these days. The wildly different lighting sources on their faces make the composition look extremely amateurish and Michelle looks like shes was literally just copy/pasted in from the poster for the first movie......Bizarre effort on the part of their marketing team 🤨

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117806796#Comment_117806796

Absolutely agree with this

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117806796#Comment_117806796

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