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Problems with garage sale

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭Oops!


    Lave it to them.... Get your few pound back and have a look on donedeal for something else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    No way will that shed be fixed.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭Iodine1


    At this end of the market, there are no guarantees, and no room for spending on repairs. They are not spending on this car so probably nothing happening. But you won't get any money back, people who sell in this market are well used to complaints, and you are stuck with the car. Going legal will probably be more money lost, they'll close the company a week before the case. As above flog the car and try again. Old clapped out bmw are only as good as a clapped out Lada, the only value is the look of it outside the door. Sorry for my negativity, and I wish you better look next time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Honestly who buys a 15 year old car from a dealership????

    I'm actually stumped!!!

    It's an old car, well used, not worth paying big money on an old car....

    If you want something cheap and that old go for an avensis or corolla or similar.

    Skoda fabia belt driven 1.2 under reliable also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 808 ✭✭✭FrankC21


    I remember when i bought my ford fiesta of donedeal, I went to the garda station and asked if they can do a background check of the car reg number, and they told me "Sorry but no, it really is a gamble at this point"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    FrankC21 wrote: »
    I remember when i bought my ford fiesta of donedeal, I went to the garda station and asked if they can do a background check of the car reg number, and they told me "Sorry but no, it really is a gamble at this point"

    Wtf??? That's not what Gardai are for...

    You do a check online or call likes of motorcheck etc....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭corks finest


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Being a member of the SIMI means nothing for the consumer, they are just a lobby group made up of member dealers.

    Unfortunately when buying at this end of the market from dealers there is a high risk in what you are buying as well as who you are buying from. Dealers selling €1200 cars are not going to spend much money on repairing them and the warranties that come with them can be practically worthless. Chances are that car was passed down through the trade as a cast off and lemon, the dealer most likely doesn't know what's wrong with it and ain't going to spend much time or money to fix it.

    SIMI helped me in the past


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 808 ✭✭✭FrankC21


    Wtf??? That's not what Gardai are for...

    You do a check online or call likes of motorcheck etc....

    Hehehe, I didn't know at that time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,697 ✭✭✭con747


    Your rights when you buy from a dealer https://www.ccpc.ie/consumers/cars/your-rights-if-things-go-wrong/
    When you buy from a dealer, the car should be:

    Of merchantable quality – it should be of reasonable, acceptable quality given the age and history of the car
    Fit for the purpose intended and roadworthy
    As described – it should match the description given verbally or in an advertisement.

    I would be looking for a refund.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭Bricriu


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Being a member of the SIMI means nothing for the consumer, they are just a lobby group made up of member dealers.

    Absolutely true.
    SIMI is not worth a fig to the consumer. I had to deal with them and they were worthless.
    It was set up to give the semblance of helping the consumer with problems with the motor industry.
    Same with all the Ombudmans - Insurance, etc. etc. - all a huge cod.
    Most people won't realise this until they come to rely on these straw organisations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭Iodine1


    con747 wrote: »
    Your rights when you buy from a dealer https://www.ccpc.ie/consumers/cars/your-rights-if-things-go-wrong/
    When you buy from a dealer, the car should be:

    Of merchantable quality – it should be of reasonable, acceptable quality given the age and history of the car
    Fit for the purpose intended and roadworthy
    As described – it should match the description given verbally or in an advertisement.

    I would be looking for a refund.

    I think you have no hope. At €1200, the age, and the car was driving and so on they could argue that it met those conditions. And as I said I think you'll find when you head towards the law and courts, the company will be in rented premises with no assets, and most likely close, only to reopen the following morning under a different spelling of the name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,204 ✭✭✭User1998


    I agree that courts always seem to side with dealers when it comes to stuff like this, even when cars have been found to be clocked they still seem to get away with it, but a decent sized business is probably not going to close and open under a new name for the sake of an unlikely €1,000 payment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,697 ✭✭✭con747


    Iodine1 wrote: »
    I think you have no hope. At €1200, the age, and the car was driving and so on they could argue that it met those conditions. And as I said I think you'll find when you head towards the law and courts, the company will be in rented premises with no assets, and most likely close, only to reopen the following morning under a different spelling of the name.

    I know he has virtually no hope of coming out of this on the right side, I was just making sure he knows the law as he seems to think he is not entitled to a refund which is not correct. Getting it is the problem.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    In all honesty, for €1,200 I'm surprised they're entertaining you at all. And I'm not trying to be funny when I say that, I genuinely am surprised they didn't give you the "trade sale" spiel and tell you not to come back no matter what happens. It couldn't possibly be worth their while selling the car if they also have to deal with fixing everything that goes wrong on it, too, on a 15 year old car with, what €500 worth of profit at best?

    Sounds like they got lumbered with the car, OP, and were probably delighted when you said you'd take it off their hands. Frustrating as it is, at least they're entertaining you and making some effort with it, rather than just ignoring you. Hopefully they'll get it sorted for you, but do beware, at that price point, they'll be cutting every corner possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭Doyler92


    Ok so I’ve decided to name the garage in question as it’s been nearly 4 weeks. I understand the times we are in that there are problems but this is gone beyond a joke.

    My brother bought a car similar to the one I bought from these guys. The car is still under warranty and there was a problem with something in it so he brought it back to them. They checked what was wrong and a couple of hours later they said it’s the fan belt and one will be coming in the morning and it will be replaced and ready to go. The reason I’m telling this story is because I sent the owner of the garage a message this morning and he told me he can’t get the part as nowhere is delivering. He also said the garage is closed because the police kept turning him around when their Facebook page is constantly being updated daily with cars for sale with the garage “open by appointment only”.

    I sent the owner back a message informing of this and he’s blocked me on WhatsApp and also on messenger so I cannot contact him. He also told me to contact him this week which makes it even more bizarre!

    The garage is <snip>. I would advise everybody to stay away from these guys when buying a car!

    "Naming and shaming" is not permitted OP, please don't do it again.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    I think at this stage you just have to take you medicine and learn a lesson.

    You test drove the car and warning lights came on …...and you still bought it!!! Jesus Christ like, if ever there was a bad omen when test driving a car! who does that?

    I am also confused that you say you are in some sort of financial trouble and yet you go out and buy a BMW, which is old and going to be trouble and big expense to keep running. Silly idea.
    If you are after cheap, realiable motoring you should be buying a basic specced petrol Fiesta, Nissan Tiida or Corolla or Auris. Not spent high end cars that are almost universally reliability nightmares when they are older.

    You've made your own bed here. Suffer the consequences and suck it up.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ..........

    You've made your own bed here. Suffer the consequences and suck it up.

    YEah, but at the moment he's without even the piece of sh1t he bought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Augeo wrote: »
    YEah, but at the moment he's without even the piece of sh1t he bought.

    That in itself is actually saving money.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Bricriu wrote: »
    Absolutely true.
    SIMI is not worth a fig to the consumer. I had to deal with them and they were worthless.
    It was set up to give the semblance of helping the consumer with problems with the motor industry.
    Same with all the Ombudmans - Insurance, etc. etc. - all a huge cod.
    Most people won't realise this until they come to rely on these straw organisations.

    Different folks different strokes, worked fine for me , maybe I was just lucky


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭Doyler92


    Just to let you guys know it’s been 8 weeks now since I’ve bought the car and I still haven’t received it!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 808 ✭✭✭FrankC21


    Doyler92 wrote: »
    Just to let you guys know it’s been 8 weeks now since I’ve bought the car and I still haven’t received it!

    Bloody hell man, that's ****ed up, did you receive any contact at all from them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,813 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Doyler92 wrote: »
    Just to let you guys know it’s been 8 weeks now since I’ve bought the car and I still haven’t received it!

    I’d say this will be a go around to collect it (wheel it out the gate) job. A 15 year old knackered bmw (they’re rubbish unless you know the cars history)- they’re just not going to repair it. If you get it fixed on the cheap elsewhere or just sell it off for parts/scrap is about all you can do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭veetwin


    Small claims court is your only hope OP. Getting a judgement against the dealers will be easy. Getting the money not so much..


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