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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,886 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    It’s not about everyone catching, it’s about everyone spreading it.

    I was going to post same but thought 'Jesus, whats the point at this stage' some people :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    It’s not about everyone catching, it’s about everyone spreading it.

    Worrying that people need to educated on this still. When you see what happened with the camp in Mayo then this is a prime example.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,819 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    This new phase has the earliest end date of 13th Sep which is a day before 'Intercounty' training is due to start


  • Registered Users Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Fred Daly


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    The training restriction is ludicrous, and in effect means that teams can no longer prepare properly.

    The % of positive tests that lead to hospitalization, severe illness and death for age groups taking part in sport are tiny. It is unlikely either that elderly people with underlying conditions are going to be going to see club games.

    Time to call a halt to this. If it is not going to go away then so be it. Can't close the country down for ever, or let it be run by medical bureaucrats.

    190 people to day a lot not elderly .


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭joebloggs32


    franglan wrote: »
    Think most people appreciate some form of direction or even logic to decisions being made but this very much seems to be lacking. So from what I can gather max of 15 boys training together from same club but "sporting events" (matches) can continue. We can't train together but could play another team with 48 players minimum plus management there no bother. Perhaps they are looking to force the hand of sporting organisations to call off their respective competitons as this set-up of no group training but matches continuing is not sustainable. I can hear a statement from John Horan with bad news incoming...

    You cant have 15 boys training.
    You need to include the coaches in thst too, so if dealing either children its a maximum of 13 players plus two adults.
    Now my own club has 3 pitches. Doe that mean we could have 3 separate groups training on each pitch?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 37,819 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,418 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    yop wrote: »
    Worrying that people need to educated on this still. When you see what happened with the camp in Mayo then this is a prime example.

    What's this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Good they should be challenged on such draconian measures


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,226 ✭✭✭howiya


    PTH2009 wrote: »

    Disappointed with that statement to be honest. Been refreshing the club email account all night waiting for guidance on how best to proceed and the only official word we get is this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    A more appropriate response by government would be to shut all off licences


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,038 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    howiya wrote: »
    Disappointed with that statement to be honest. Been refreshing the club email account all night waiting for guidance on how best to proceed and the only official word we get is this.

    Not sure what you were expecting. I imagine the GAA will meet tomorrow to discuss the new restrictions and give guidance afterwards. I think these restrictions have blindsided everyone


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭arctictree


    PTH2009 wrote: »

    So what happens if the GAA find that there is no evidence that their activities are spreading covid and reject the recommendations?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,102 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    From what I can figure* 58 different GAA clubs in 21 counties have suspended activites due to positive,possible or outbreaks in the local community since the big lockdown was lifted. This clubs in Kildare, Carlow, Laois werer all prior to the mini-lockdown.

    * This was based on some pretty quick Googling

    Raheny Dublin positive case
    Man O'War Dublin positive case
    James Stephens Kilkenny positive case
    Simonstown Meath possible case
    Nobber Meath possible case
    Ballinabrackey Meath positive case
    Park-Ratheniska Laois positive case
    Timahoe Laois positive case
    Carbury Kildare positive case
    Kilcormac/Killoughey Offaly possible case
    Clonmore Carlow positive case
    St Brigids Carlow possible case
    Rathvilly Carlow outbreak in the community
    Fenagh Carlow possible case
    Old Leighlin GAA Carlow positive case
    Killeavy Armagh 5 positive cases
    Eglish Tyrone positive case
    Aghaloo Tyrone possible case
    Banagher Derry outbreak in the community
    Claudy Derry outbreak in the community
    Ardmore Derry outbreak in the community
    Foreglen Derry outbreak in the community
    Drum Derry outbreak in the community
    Drumsurn Derry outbreak in the community
    Magilligan Derry outbreak in the community
    Glack Derry outbreak in the community
    Limavady Derry outbreak in the community
    Craigbane Derry outbreak in the community
    St Marys Banagher Derry positive case
    Atticall Down outbreak in the community
    Longstone Down positive case
    Dundrum Down positive case
    Four Masters Donegal possible case
    Naomh Conaill Donegal possible case
    Bundoran Donegal possible case
    Naomh Colmcille Donegal possible case
    Cloughaneely Donegal possible case
    Truagh Gaels Monaghan positive case
    Argideen Rangers Cork possible case
    Glanworth Cork positive case
    Ballinascarty Cork possible case
    St Oliver Plunketts Cork possible case
    Claughan Limerick positive case
    St Patricks Limerick positive case
    Ahane Limerick possible case
    Cappamore Limerick possible case
    St Kierans Limerick possible case
    Cratloe Clare 6 positive cases
    Clondegad Clare possible case
    Clerihan Tipperary possible case
    Ballinahinch Tipperary possible case
    Eastern Harps Sligo possible case
    Kinvara Galway outbreak in the community
    Moy Davitts Mayo possible case
    Loughmore Mayo possible case
    Balla Mayo outbreak in the community
    Louisburgh Mayo outbreak in the community
    Strokestown Roscommon possible case


    The 11 counties where a GAA club hasn't suspended action are

    Wicklow
    Wexford
    Westmeath
    Louth
    Longford
    Antrim
    Fermanagh
    Cavan
    Kerry
    Waterford
    Leitrim


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    arctictree wrote: »
    So what happens if the GAA find that there is no evidence that their activities are spreading covid and reject the recommendations?

    From direct experience I can tell you now that won`t happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,226 ✭✭✭howiya


    Not sure what you were expecting. I imagine the GAA will meet tomorrow to discuss the new restrictions and give guidance afterwards. I think these restrictions have blindsided everyone

    I was expecting some guidance as I said in the post you've quoted


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,923 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Boom__Boom wrote: »

    The 11 counties where a GAA club hasn't suspended action are

    Wicklow
    Wexford
    Westmeath
    Louth
    Longford
    Antrim
    Fermanagh
    Cavan
    Kerry
    Waterford
    Leitrim

    That has "handy one for Kerry" written all over it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭kksaints


    Boom__Boom wrote: »
    From what I can figure* 58 different GAA clubs in 21 counties have suspended activites due to positive,possible or outbreaks in the local community since the big lockdown was lifted. This clubs in Kildare, Carlow, Laois werer all prior to the mini-lockdown.

    * This was based on some pretty quick Googling

    Raheny Dublin positive case
    Man O'War Dublin positive case
    James Stephens Kilkenny positive case
    Simonstown Meath possible case
    Nobber Meath possible case
    Ballinabrackey Meath positive case
    Park-Ratheniska Laois positive case
    Timahoe Laois positive case
    Carbury Kildare positive case
    Kilcormac/Killoughey Offaly possible case
    Clonmore Carlow positive case
    St Brigids Carlow possible case
    Rathvilly Carlow outbreak in the community
    Fenagh Carlow possible case
    Old Leighlin GAA Carlow positive case
    Killeavy Armagh 5 positive cases
    Eglish Tyrone positive case
    Aghaloo Tyrone possible case
    Banagher Derry outbreak in the community
    Claudy Derry outbreak in the community
    Ardmore Derry outbreak in the community
    Foreglen Derry outbreak in the community
    Drum Derry outbreak in the community
    Drumsurn Derry outbreak in the community
    Magilligan Derry outbreak in the community
    Glack Derry outbreak in the community
    Limavady Derry outbreak in the community
    Craigbane Derry outbreak in the community
    St Marys Banagher Derry positive case
    Atticall Down outbreak in the community
    Longstone Down positive case
    Dundrum Down positive case
    Four Masters Donegal possible case
    Naomh Conaill Donegal possible case
    Bundoran Donegal possible case
    Naomh Colmcille Donegal possible case
    Cloughaneely Donegal possible case
    Truagh Gaels Monaghan positive case
    Argideen Rangers Cork possible case
    Glanworth Cork positive case
    Ballinascarty Cork possible case
    St Oliver Plunketts Cork possible case
    Claughan Limerick positive case
    St Patricks Limerick positive case
    Ahane Limerick possible case
    Cappamore Limerick possible case
    St Kierans Limerick possible case
    Cratloe Clare 6 positive cases
    Clondegad Clare possible case
    Clerihan Tipperary possible case
    Ballinahinch Tipperary possible case
    Eastern Harps Sligo possible case
    Kinvara Galway outbreak in the community
    Moy Davitts Mayo possible case
    Loughmore Mayo possible case
    Balla Mayo outbreak in the community
    Louisburgh Mayo outbreak in the community
    Strokestown Roscommon possible case


    The 11 counties where a GAA club hasn't suspended action are

    Wicklow
    Wexford
    Westmeath
    Louth
    Longford
    Antrim
    Fermanagh
    Cavan
    Kerry
    Waterford
    Leitrim

    Ferns in Wexford suspended all activities yesterday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,102 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    People don't mind tough decisions like this if there's logic, merit and/or common sense behind it, on all known evidence this decision lacks all 3 of the above...

    711 cases in the last week.
    Cases in 23 out of 26 counties in the last three days alone.
    This is two weeks out from the schools going back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭peejay1986


    Louth GAA moving all its Championship games to its facility in Darver.

    https://louthnow.ie/2020/08/18/all-championship-games-move-to-darver-as-gates-close-to-supporters/

    Bringing it all in-house now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Fred Daly


    Good they should be challenged on such draconian measures

    Wake up.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    From direct experience I can tell you now that won`t happen.

    What direct experience?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    Boom__Boom wrote: »
    711 cases in the last week.
    Cases in 23 out of 26 counties in the last three days alone.
    This is two weeks out from the schools going back.
    But we're free too travel abroad, have any many drinks as we want in 105 mins in a pub, you can have a church full of 50 people over 70, go to a wedding with 50 strangers but parents can't stand at the side of a field (19 times more likely to get it indoors rather than outdoors)while they're children are playing an underage blitz.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    Fred Daly wrote: »
    Wake up.
    just have a look at my reply to boom boom...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    robbiezero wrote: »
    What direct experience?

    Direct experience of the GAA following Government regulations and guidelines to the letter and beyond. It will be no different this time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Direct experience of the GAA following Government regulations and guidelines to the letter and beyond. It will be no different this time.

    Absolutely they won't reject the recommendations, but it would be quite the bloody nose for the Government if the empirical evidence is inadequate.
    This is the biggest backlash I have seen since the start of the pandemic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    robbiezero wrote: »
    Absolutely they won't reject the recommendations, but it would be quite the bloody nose for the Government if the empirical evidence is inadequate.
    This is the biggest backlash I have seen since the start of the pandemic.


    I wonder if NPHET will decline the invitation, I doubt they are under any obligation to accept it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,418 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Very public questioning of the public story.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    I wonder if NPHET will decline the invitation, I doubt they are under any obligation to accept it?

    I think it would look poor for their credibility if they do decline it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Boom__Boom wrote: »
    711 cases in the last week.
    Cases in 23 out of 26 counties in the last three days alone.
    This is two weeks out from the schools going back.

    How many cases have been spread through outdoor sporting activity?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    robbiezero wrote: »
    Absolutely they won't reject the recommendations, but it would be quite the bloody nose for the Government if the empirical evidence is inadequate.
    This is the biggest backlash I have seen since the start of the pandemic.

    In other words they may complain about the new rules all they want but at the end of the day they will comply with them. As they have from the start of the virus impacting this country.


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