Ruth Coppinger

A Knight of Ireland

So with Ruth Coppinger rejected by the people for the second time in a matter of weeks, what will become of the socialist presence in Dublin 15? Will socialism vanish into the ether of the past? Remembering that Matt Waine was also rejected by the people so no council representation either?

I often wonder if there was a wake up call by the people in Dublin 15 that socialism has no place in Irish politics when the country is governed by a 2 party system?? and thats not going to change in the near future

Pat Dunne

D15’s very own Troll has raised his head again.

A Knight of Ireland

Pat Dunne wrote: »

D15’s very own Troll has raised his head again.

Pat, please dont refer to yourself as a troll. Its not becoming of you

Pat Dunne

A Knight of Ireland wrote: »

Pat, please dont refer to yourself as a troll. Its not becoming of you

Well after your “outrage“ at the sale of Dildos in Boots, Roselawn. What do you expect!
Dublin 15’s Very Own Self Appointed Moral Guardian
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058064177

A Knight of Ireland

Pat Dunne wrote: »

Well after your “outrage“ at the sale of Dildos in Boots, Roselawn. What do you expect!
Dublin 15’s Very Own Self Appointed Moral Guardian
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058064177

Merely pointing out Boots decision to sell these toys on shelves where kids can mingle amongst does not warrant being a troll.

Now back to topic. Do you have anything to contribute to the original post? If not toddle on

LorelaiG

John Burtchaell is a Solidarity councillor sitting on Fingal CoCo for the Mulhuddart ward...

A Knight of Ireland

LorelaiG wrote: »

John Burtchaell is a Solidarity councillor sitting on Fingal CoCo for the Mulhuddart ward...

Oh yes..I forgot about him. Thank you

Ash.J.Williams

A Knight of Ireland wrote: »

Merely pointing out Boots decision to sell these toys on shelves where kids can mingle amongst does not warrant being a troll.

Now back to topic. Do you have anything to contribute to the original post? If not toddle on

A dildo never hurt anyone

Pat Dunne

A Knight of Ireland wrote: »

Merely pointing out Boots decision to sell these toys on shelves where kids can mingle amongst does not warrant being a troll.

Now back to topic. Do you have anything to contribute to the original post? If not toddle on

No intention of Toddling anywhere, Old Bean.
However based on your contributions during the Dub West General Election thread we all know how this is going to go. If I recollect correctly your own preferred candidate met expectations.

DaveCliftonAP

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

A dildo never hurt anyone

Try some of the bigger ones.

Pat Dunne

DaveCliftonAP wrote: »

Try some of the bigger ones.

Oh Matron!

hardybuck

Perhaps Ruth will reflect on her communication style and tactics. Imagine going into work with someone with a puss on them like hers everyday and listening to them moaning - you wouldn't want to be anywhere near them.

Her posters for the GE were hilariously bad. The week before the election I could see she'd become desperate because she'd put up ones about keeping a female representative in the area.

Apart from gender balance, there is a much better political balance in the constituency with the current lineup.

Pat Dunne

hardybuck wrote: »

Perhaps Ruth will reflect on her communication style and tactics. Imagine going into work with someone with a puss on them like hers everyday and listening to them moaning - you wouldn't want to be anywhere near them.

Her posters for the GE were hilariously bad. The week before the election I could see she'd become desperate because she'd put up ones about keeping a female representative in the area.

Apart from gender balance, there is a much better political balance in the constituency with the current lineup.

How, do you arrive at the conclusion that there is a much better political balance, within the constituency, now?

Iodine1

Ruth, and her silly antics and attention seeking, are no loss.

Baseball72

hardybuck wrote: »

Perhaps Ruth will reflect on her communication style and tactics. Imagine going into work with someone with a puss on them like hers everyday and listening to them moaning - you wouldn't want to be anywhere near them.

Her posters for the GE were hilariously bad. The week before the election I could see she'd become desperate because she'd put up ones about keeping a female representative in the area.

Apart from gender balance, there is a much better political balance in the constituency with the current lineup.

Yes, very hard to listen to Ruth. Always negative , confrontational. Sincere in her beliefs no doubt but certainly does not come across well in the media. Maybe she's ok on the doorstep and constituency representation.......

Rodney Bathgate

Baseball72 wrote: »

Yes, very hard to listen to Ruth. Always negative , confrontational. Sincere in her beliefs no doubt but certainly does not come across well in the media. Maybe she's ok on the doorstep and constituency representation.......

Probably not since she was rejected in the GE when there was supposed to be a surge to the left. If anything it is a double rejection.

hardybuck

Pat Dunne wrote: »

How, do you arrive at the conclusion that there is a much better political balance, within the constituency, now?

Well I believe our proportional electoral system provides that balance anyway.

However, I think Trotskyism doesn't represent the area well. I can remember when she advocated nationalism of multinational companies based in Ireland for example.

The Greens basically took her seat, and they along with SF are speaking to more younger voters who are hoping for change, and do so in a more constructive fashion in my opinion.

Rodney Bathgate

hardybuck wrote: »

Well I believe our proportional electoral system provides that balance anyway.

However, I think Trotskyism doesn't represent the area well. I can remember when she advocated nationalism of multinational companies based in Ireland for example.

The Greens basically took her seat, and they along with SF are speaking to more younger voters who are hoping for change, and do so in a more constructive fashion in my opinion.

Ha ha, forgot about the nationalise Dell brainfart. Worrying to think that someone like this will be allowed go back to teaching impressionable young minds.

A Knight of Ireland

I came across some of her campaign crew outside Tesco Roselawn and I found them quite pushy especially if you mentioned you were undecided on how to vote. I do think that it was a massive mistake to use womens rights as a basis for a campaign as it would alienate any male voters. Hopefully, she will mellow out in her retirement. Sure she must have a decent pension out of her Dail terms now anyway

Caranica

A Knight of Ireland wrote: »

I came across some of her campaign crew outside Tesco Roselawn and I found them quite pushy especially if you mentioned you were undecided on how to vote.

McManus' crew were the worst I encountered there. Targeted me on the way in and again on the way out. Needless to say he didn't get a preference from me.

landofthetree

hardybuck wrote: »

Well I believe our proportional electoral system provides that balance anyway.

However, I think Trotskyism doesn't represent the area well. I can remember when she advocated nationalism of multinational companies based in Ireland for example.

The Greens basically took her seat, and they along with SF are speaking to more younger voters who are hoping for change, and do so in a more constructive fashion in my opinion.

SF are pro multinationals and against them all at the one time.

PukkaStukka

A Knight of Ireland wrote: »

I came across some of her campaign crew outside Tesco Roselawn and I found them quite pushy especially if you mentioned you were undecided on how to vote.

I do think that it was a massive mistake to use womens rights as a basis for a campaign as it would alienate any male voters.

I'd be a left leaning voter by nature but I wouldn't vote for her or her party. The two points raised above are things I've seen first hand myself. Firstly a band of "followers" that seem to canvas in a quasi confrontational way. That's poor: if you want my vote then persuade me rather than berate me. They need to realise it's my vote to cast and theirs to loose.

Then there's the policy around women's rights and their circumstances. Don't get me wrong, I fully agree in absolute and scrupulously fair equality for all. But when women look at this sort of campaign - as a good number of my workplace peers have - and are put off by it for the same reasons given above then you have to feel that this particular campaign has missed its point, and failed to appeal to the very space it's trying to win.

Pat Dunne

A Knight of Ireland wrote: »

I came across some of her campaign crew outside Tesco Roselawn and I found them quite pushy especially if you mentioned you were undecided on how to vote. I do think that it was a massive mistake to use womens rights as a basis for a campaign as it would alienate any male voters. Hopefully, she will mellow out in her retirement. Sure she must have a decent pension out of her Dail terms now anyway

Just to be clear, I am in no way a supporter of RC. However I’m very interested to note that your own preferred Candidate, was equally as polarising and focused mostly on one topic.
With regard to the pension, Members of the Oireachtas and former Members are not eligible to collect their pension until they’re 65. Not like us poor saps at 67/68. The pension whilst more than generous in is now based on a percentage of the time the Individual served as a TD or Senator against their actual working life. To work out a TD’s basic pension you divide his or her salary by 40 and then multiply it by the number of years they’ve served in the Dáil. A cap of 20 years service applies.
Up until 1994, TD’s & Senators could claim a full pension upon leaving Leinster House at any age, even if only having server one or a partial term. Thankfully this no longer happens.

Rodney Bathgate

I haven't had the misfortune to come across Ruth.

Pat Dunne

landofthetree wrote: »

SF are pro multinationals and against them all at the one time.

The fence sitting exercise in which SF engaged in during the repeal of the 8th amendment finished them in my estimation as representing any potential change in how Irish politics has been conducted in the last 50 years.
SF are simply FF 2.0

A Knight of Ireland

Pat Dunne wrote: »

The fence sitting exercise in which SF engaged in during the repeal of the 8th amendment finished them in my estimation as representing any potential change in how Irish politics has been conducted in the last 50 years.
SF are simply FF 2.0

Totally agree Pat. Plus they have been completely absent from the public since the start of the Corona Virus pandemic

Larbre34

Not quite accurate, Doherty was on the wireless in recent days pleading a rather impotent case to be included in the advancing Government formation talks. Sounded like he didn't even believe what he was saying himself.

jimmyrustle

The most delicious irony is that after fraudulently passing herself off as some sort of firebrand for the provision of social and affordable housing, it was her refusal to back/ engage with the housing protest at Mulhuddart that made her base realise that she truly couldn't give a ****e about them if someone of a darker hue was competing with them for the same freebies. Without a doubt that (plus the SF surge to a lesser extent) finished her. Her fence sitting/ outright contempt hopefully won't be forgotten by next election as she will no doubt run again. And the same goes for Matt Waine and his flag shame.



An absolutely odious pair of people. Good riddance to them and their misandrist thug supporters.

LorelaiG

jimmyrustle wrote: »

The most delicious irony is that after fraudulently passing herself off as some sort of firebrand for the provision of social and affordable housing, it was her refusal to back/ engage with the housing protest at Mulhuddart that made her base realise that she truly couldn't give a ****e about them if someone of a darker hue was competing with them for the same freebies. Without a doubt that (plus the SF surge to a lesser extent) finished her. Her fence sitting/ outright contempt hopefully won't be forgotten by next election as she will no doubt run again. And the same goes for Matt Waine and his flag shame.



An absolutely odious pair of people. Good riddance to them and their misandrist thug supporters.

Funnily enough Ruth reached out to the protesters in mulhuddart and was turned away because of her parties policies on migrants. That protest was a racist pile of crap anyway...

jimmyrustle

LorelaiG wrote: »

Funnily enough Ruth reached out to the protesters in mulhuddart and was turned away because of her parties policies on migrants. That protest was a racist pile of crap anyway...

Reached out my hole. Listen, I know full well some of those at the protest aren't exactly the greatest and good of D15.

Regardless of that, the majority of them are living either in overcrowded parental households or, even worse, in black hole state schemes like HAP or long term social rental of private homes. They need somewhere to live and they need it now.

To suggest anyone who arrived in the country after these people joined the list should be handed brand new housing, in Dublin of all places, is obscene. It isn't just offensive to those on the list, it is offensive to people who don't qualify for the list, locals who have been forced out to Meath, Cavan, Westmeath to try and either gather a deposit, or maybe even never to return.

Ruth Coppinger lost her seat because she thinks foreigners are more important than Irish people, simple as.

Want proof?

Google Ruth's activism regarding Paddy Jackson. Ran him out of the country after his acquittal.

Then tell me why she didn't organise a similar protest against another professional sportsman, one Ismail Akinade. Who, unlike Jackson, was actually convicted.

There are three reasons she didn't.

One reason she didn't was because he wasn't from a wealthy, privileged background.

I'll let you work out the other two reasons.


While you're a it, you might ask her why she was vocal about shutting down building sites last week but hasn't raised a peep about hundreds of mostly migrant, gay or trans escorts (or all three) plying their trade online in Dublin tonight. Ruth only wants to shut down prostitution if there's a nasty rich man getting a cut off the profits, same as the building game.

She's a hypocrite, a parasite, a thug.

Gaspode

Folks can ye not discuss politics/politicians withou resorting to name-calling & slurs?
Honestly, you're making a show of yourselves.
Any more childish stuff & this thread is closed.

Pat Dunne

Gaspode wrote: »

Folks can ye not discuss politics/politicians withou resorting to name-calling & slurs?
Honestly, you're making a show of yourselves.
Any more childish stuff & this thread is closed.

In all fairness this topic is nothing more than a Trolling expedition in the first place.

LoonyLovegood

I didn't give Ruth a vote for the Dáil or the Seanad, and a lot of it was to do with her campaign team. I'm involved in a different political party, and the second I said I was, I got "Do you not care about working class people, how can you do that?". Cop on, we care about a lot of the same things.

not yet

By some accounts I've heard, someone mentioned on this thread is a Landlord:eek::eek:

LorelaiG

jimmyrustle wrote: »

Reached out my hole. Listen, I know full well some of those at the protest aren't exactly the greatest and good of D15.

Regardless of that, the majority of them are living either in overcrowded parental households or, even worse, in black hole state schemes like HAP or long term social rental of private homes. They need somewhere to live and they need it now.

To suggest anyone who arrived in the country after these people joined the list should be handed brand new housing, in Dublin of all places, is obscene. It isn't just offensive to those on the list, it is offensive to people who don't qualify for the list, locals who have been forced out to Meath, Cavan, Westmeath to try and either gather a deposit, or maybe even never to return.

Ruth did infact reach out to the protesters, it was stated on their own group, so if you don't think that's factual good enough for you.

You don't need to explain to me about the dire situation out here, I live out here, in the estate where a lot of the protersters are from and I am stuck in a black hole state scheme such as HAP with the added bonus of my landlord selling his house so we are being evicted. Nobody was suggesting that anyone is able to skip the list, there's no proof that anyone IS skipping the list.

piplip87

There's room for socialist policies in this country. We should look after the sick and disabled better.

The problem with PBP and their policies is that they want to give everything for free yet have no sensible way of providing it. They want up corporation tax to 25% for example potentially killing of hundred of jobs.

It was no surprise to see them gain traction after 2008 as many people lost jobs and the free everything mantra sounds good when you are scraping by on 188 per week.

It genuinely does sound good until your back to work, paying tax and you realise the free everything mantra will benefit those who got dole sign up sheets for their 18th Birthday and haven't looked back since rather than the working person.

hardybuck

hardybuck wrote: »

Perhaps Ruth will reflect on her communication style and tactics. Imagine going into work with someone with a puss on them like hers everyday and listening to them moaning - you wouldn't want to be anywhere near them.

Her posters for the GE were hilariously bad. The week before the election I could see she'd become desperate because she'd put up ones about keeping a female representative in the area.

Apart from gender balance, there is a much better political balance in the constituency with the current lineup.

Imagine her walking into your children’s classroom to teach them!

hardybuck

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Imagine her walking into your children’s classroom to teach them!

Imagine the parent teacher meeting...

Zaph

LoonyLovegood wrote: »

I didn't give Ruth a vote for the Dáil or the Seanad, and a lot of it was to do with her campaign team. I'm involved in a different political party, and the second I said I was, I got "Do you not care about working class people, how can you do that?". Cop on, we care about a lot of the same things.

I'd never given her a preference in any election as I have no time for her at all. She's possibly the most negative politician I've ever come across, she just continually moans and rarely has anything positive to say about anything. However in the Seanad election I did actually give her a fairly high preference (even taking into account her hypocrisy of running for an institution she wanted abolished) simply because I thought she had a better chance of unseating Ronan Mullen than most other candidates. That worked out well. :rolleyes:

Ash.J.Williams

DaveCliftonAP wrote: »

Try some of the bigger ones.

brb

Murt10

A Knight of Ireland wrote: »

I do think that it was a massive mistake to use womens rights as a basis for a campaign as it would alienate any male voters.

Her entourage called around to my house canvassing about 3-4 days before the election and I ran them. I hadn't seen sight nor sound of her prior to that.

Her campaign made it quite clear that she only wanted to represent 50% of the population and as I wasn't in that 50%, so why on earth would I vote for her.

A few female voters (feminists) in the area I spoke to also voted against her for that specific reason. Not only did they not vote for her, they voted against her. This became apparent in the final flood of votes that transferred to Roderick rather than her.

If she couldn't seek a vote without resorting to such short sighted, childish tactics, none of us wanted her representing in the Dail under any circumstances.

PukkaStukka

Murt10 wrote: »

Her campaign made it quite clear that she only wanted to represent 50% of the population and as I wasn't in that 50%, so why on earth would I vote for her.

A few female voters (feminists) in the area I spoke to also voted against her for that specific reason.

The view above tally with with those I mentioned in my post previously. A few good decent ladies I work with were very put out with the bias in that campaign.