Your CoVid-19 test queries and observations - the Megathread

Sexual Chocolate

Just rang my GP (as I was told to do so if I didn't hear anything back from the HSE) and to also apply for illness benefit and was told that there's at least a 7 day wait for referrals for the test.

IAMAMORON

I don't think there is any point in people cranking about testing. If you contract the virus you are going to know all about it sooner or later. If it doesn't put you in hospital you are going to generate an immunity, which is good news. I respect that people could be paranoid about passing it on to an elderly relative but given the widely known symptoms if you had a dry cough for a few days and a temperature well then the chances are...

As I said you will know all about it if you have a serious dose of it, the test will not matter at that point.

lawrencesummers

milhous wrote: »

From what I've read there's not much stock to the 75%. No proper journals are quoting figures so if they're not confident enough then I don't believe anyone can be.


The most comprehensive results were extrapolated from the study above but they weren't under ideal conditions coming from Wuhan at the beginning of this.

Negatives or weak positive are really high in the first 1 to 5 days (sorry don't have A source but I did read it). Then after that all I'm reading is it has a high % of accuracy. Suppose 75% could be considered high.

I for one would like to get tested now. A positive result would be ideal, get this **** out of the way.

How do you expect to be reading anything accurate when this is at such an early stage and the entire reaction is essentially firefighting not clinical analysis.

lawrencesummers

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I don't think there is any point in people cranking about testing. If you contract the virus you are going to know all about it sooner or later. If it doesn't put you in hospital you are going to generate an immunity, which is good news. I respect that people could be paranoid about passing it on to an elderly relative but given the widely known symptoms if you had a dry cough for a few days and a temperature well then the chances are...

As I said you will know all about it if you have a serious dose of it, the test will not matter at that point.

Firstly, if you contract the virus you won’t necessarily know about it and you can be infecting people without knowing about it.

Secondly your not generating any immunity by having it. You can become re-infected.

r3nu4l

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I don't think there is any point in people cranking about testing. If you contract the virus you are going to know all about it sooner or later. If it doesn't put you in hospital you are going to generate an immunity, which is good news. I respect that people could be paranoid about passing it on to an elderly relative but given the widely known symptoms if you had a dry cough for a few days and a temperature well then the chances are...

As I said you will know all about it if you have a serious dose of it, the test will not matter at that point.

The test does matter for our understanding of the spread of disease though. It matters for epidemiology studies. Massively important.

And yes, these studies are vital because if this disease raises up again, or when the next pandemic arrives, we need an accurate picture of the scale of the spread of disease. All of that matters for our knowledge on how to better manage in future.

Accurate numbers are vital, testing to establish this is vital.

aquarius10

aquarius10 wrote: »

Since 8am Thursday morning - Co. Clare

Got phonecall 8.45am this morning to be in Ennis @3pm tomorrow

ax530

safest is to act as if you have it symptoms or not.
obviously some people cant do that and have jobs need to get back to pity they can not get those people tested faster.
I also believe testing numbers will be one of the fastest ways to see if we are being successful in flattening the curve so I would like to see the testing process improve.
take care everyone hope feeling better soon

Snipp

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Secondly your not generating any immunity by having it. You can become re-infected.

I always find it hilarious how people are already experts on a novel virus. Nobody can say for sure either way whether we generate immunity by fighting off the virus but if one looks at previous pandemics, it would seem highly likely that we do develop an immune response. While you're correct in saying you can get re-infected, the magnitude of the response of our secondary immunity, remains to be seen.

Sexual Chocolate

Snipp wrote: »

I always find it hilarious how people are already experts on a novel virus. Nobody can say for sure either way whether we generate immunity by fighting off the virus but if one looks at previous pandemics, it would seem highly likely that we do develop an immune response. While you're correct in saying you can get re-infected, the magnitude of the response of our secondary immunity, remains to be seen.

Didn't somebody in Japan get infected a second time recently ?

MayoAreMagic

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

Just rang my GP (as I was told to do so if I didn't hear anything back from the HSE) and to also apply for illness benefit and was told that there's at least a 7 day wait for referrals for the test.

Interesting that Claire Byrne, who by her own admission had barely any symptoms to the point of thinking she just had a bit of a cold, got a test and then her results all in the space of a couple of days...

JMJR

Still waiting for a test, 7 days tomorrow.
No apology text received.
No real news on testing save the same line for the past 3 days that 40000 are waiting to be tested.
Isn’t it a grand country that if you are media person, politician or sleb you’ll get a quick test & result.
The difficulties are understandable but the cronyism and lack of true information is shameful.

_Brian

Obviously it’s vital that those waiting testing are observing isolation as if they had tested positive.

Waiting is a pain, but your actions are vital.

Emma2019

For those who have gotten results did your GP call you? I was debating ringing my GP for an update but don't want to bother them if the HSE contact you direct (don't really want to bother them either way but I have a few things I need to get for the house before we have full lock down!)

IAMAMORON

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Firstly, if you contract the virus you won’t necessarily know about it and you can be infecting people without knowing about it.

How long would it take to test 6 million people? I can only imagine a lot longer than 14 days. With all due respect even the testing of potential suffers could probably help to escalate unwanted contractions. The clandestine nature of the virus means that people need to practice social distancing. Whether you have the virus or not.

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Secondly your not generating any immunity by having it. You can become re-infected.

This sounds like scaremongering garbage. I would say that given it takes up to 14 days for symptoms to appear, it is highly likely that the virus is hanging around a lot longer after symptoms disappear. Getting it twice sounds like rubbish. You could potentially contract a mutation, but your immune system would recognise it surely?

Catching it twice is for the real armageddonistas. Panic junckies etc.

lawrencesummers

Snipp wrote: »

I always find it hilarious how people are already experts on a novel virus. Nobody can say for sure either way whether we generate immunity by fighting off the virus but if one looks at previous pandemics, it would seem highly likely that we do develop an immune response. While you're correct in saying you can get re-infected, the magnitude of the response of our secondary immunity, remains to be seen.

I’m not the one making a claim of immunity, I just read a bit and there are very qualified people who have been working treating this that have said there is no immunity generated outside of a short term effect. One particular person said that that immunity will defiantly not last past a short time.

The important thing is to err on the side of caution, and until enough quality research is completed and tested and published assume the worst, that testing can be wrong, that you can be reinfected, and people should be assuming they are infected and to behave accordingly.

In 12-18 months time we will all know a lot more for definite about this.

sekond

I'm on Day 8 now waiting for a test. No apology text either. Can't even get through to GP anymore as the line is always busy.

Have been self isolating for 2 weeks today on GPs instructions, despite HSE telling me at the time that I didn't need to. Am very glad I followed GPs instructions as the vague symptoms I had at that stage got a lot stronger and more typical of the virus 5 days in to self isolation. I could have easily been spreading it otherwise.

IAMAMORON

lawrencesummers wrote: »

I’m not the one making a claim of immunity, I just read a bit and there are very qualified people who have been working treating this that have said there is no immunity generated outside of a short term effect. One particular person said that that immunity will defiantly not last past a short time.

The important thing is to err on the side of caution, and until enough quality research is completed and tested and published assume the worst, that testing can be wrong, that you can be reinfected, and people should be assuming they are infected and to behave accordingly.

In 12-18 months time we will all know a lot more for definite about this.

If people are getting re-infected how come 80,000 people have not caught it again in China? Or in Italy?

lawrencesummers

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I don't think there is any point in people cranking about testing. If you contract the virus you are going to know all about it sooner or later. If it doesn't put you in hospital you are going to generate an immunity, which is good news. I respect that people could be paranoid about passing it on to an elderly relative but given the widely known symptoms if you had a dry cough for a few days and a temperature well then the chances are...

As I said you will know all about it if you have a serious dose of it, the test will not matter at that point.

IAMAMORON wrote: »

How long would it take to test 6 million people? I can only imagine a lot longer than 14 days. With all due respect even the testing of potential suffers could probably help to escalate unwanted contractions. The clandestine nature of the virus means that people need to practice social distancing. Whether you have the virus or not.



This sounds like scaremongering garbage. I would say that given it takes up to 14 days for symptoms to appear, it is highly likely that the virus is hanging around a lot longer after symptoms disappear. Getting it twice sounds like rubbish. You could potentially contract a mutation, but your immune system would recognise it surely?

Catching it twice is for the real armageddonistas. Panic junckies etc.

With all due respect you are posting some complete nonsense and you should stop. Below are some of your highlights.


People who don’t get hospitalised for it get immunity????
If you contract it you will know about it. (Look at the most high profile in Claire Byrne)

Because the Virus takes 14 days to appear (not true) it’s likely to hang around after. (You have nothing to back that up)


People need to assume the worse and hope for the best.
Assume you have it.
If your high risk or around anyone that is then strictly isolate
If you have any symptoms then assume you have it.
If your test returns negative for it then it could be wrong or you could still get infected.

lawrencesummers

IAMAMORON wrote: »

If people are getting re-infected hojw come 80,000 people have not caught it again in China? Or in Italy?

Honestly do you want me to answer that question?
Probably for the same reason that not everybody in the world has been infected in the first place.

Have a read of this if you want, there is nothing definitive about reinfection, like a flu it’s unlikely you get it twice in one season but it can happen, and I’m saying there is not enough known about this virus to say for definite so isn’t it best to err on the side of caution????

According to Li QinGyuan, director of pneumonia prevention and treatment at China Japan Friendship Hospital in Beijing, those who have been infected with Covid-19 develop a protective antibody - but it isn’t clear how long the protection lasts.

"However, in certain individuals, the antibody cannot last that long," Li told USAToday. "For many patients who have been cured, there is a likelihood of relapse."

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/coronavirus-immunity-reinfection-get-covid-19-twice-sick-spread-relapse-a9400691.html

mirrorwall14

I have it on good authority that it doesn’t matter who you are and there’s no priority list. Doc in a hospital waiting for a test. Has to stay home as is symptomatic and they don’t have any swabs in the hospital to take the test.....

IAMAMORON

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Probably for the same reason that not everybody in the world has been infected in the first place.

According to Li QinGyuan, director of pneumonia prevention and treatment at China Japan Friendship Hospital in Beijing, those who have been infected with Covid-19 develop a protective antibody - but it isn’t clear how long the protection lasts.

"However, in certain individuals, the antibody cannot last that long," Li told USAToday. "For many patients who have been cured, there is a likelihood of relapse."

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/coronavirus-immunity-reinfection-get-covid-19-twice-sick-spread-relapse-a9400691.html

Relapses are different to re-infections.

How come only 80,000 people have it in China when their population is 1.4 billion people? It sounds miniscule. If it is so contagious surely it would be annihilating mainland China by now?

We are all getting various information. A lot of it is dubious garbage posted online by hysterical armageddonists. Some people like the panic of it all, they get off on it.

You could be tested today .. get the all clear and then catch it at your cousin's birthday tomorrow. Testing negative only means you haven't caught the virus ...yet.

Cranking about testing is very counterproductive. It will not be curing anything.

Sexual Chocolate

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

and they don’t have any swabs in the hospital to take the test.....

This is what's causing the delay I believe. Just an assumption but I reckon the test centres are able for the capacity but don't have to tools to work.

michellie

Emma2019 wrote: »

For those who have gotten results did your GP call you? I was debating ringing my GP for an update but don't want to bother them if the HSE contact you direct (don't really want to bother them either way but I have a few things I need to get for the house before we have full lock down!)

You get a text if negative or a phone call if positive. How long ago did you get tested?

ch3rrypickin

6th day waiting for a test, anybody live in Kildare? Just wondering where i would be tested

TheStig2020

Phoned my doc last Monday morning (16th March), self isolating since Saturday 14th. So day 8 of waiting for any word of a test. Self isolating at my home, which I'm sharing with my wife who is 8 months pregnant.

All my symptoms have now gone and luckily enough my wife doesn't seem to have picked up any or show any symptoms.

TheStig2020

TheStig2020 wrote: »

Phoned my doc last Monday morning (16th March), self isolating since Saturday 14th. So day 8 of waiting for any word of a test. Self isolating at my home, which I'm sharing with my wife who is 8 months pregnant.

All my symptoms have now gone and luckily enough my wife doesn't seem to have picked up any or show any symptoms.

So by the time I'm likely to get a test, I could be day 10 of self isolation, add waiting for the results and I'll be way over the 14 days. I know of two people who have phoned theres in after mine and have been tested and given results. There's no consistency on who pr when they are testing people. (Dublin based)

Qwerty Dub

Frontline worker, Dublin.

First symptoms started Sunday 15th.

15th: Headache and Fatigue (evening only)
16th: Headache (morning)
17th: Small infrequent dry cough
18th: Headache, frequent dry cough mixed with loose cough and low temp

Self isolating on direction of GP since 18th and referred for a test. No contact from anyone since. Very frustrating when you are 800m from Croke Park where a lot of testing is going on.

Thought I was on the mend, but woke up today coughing more than last few days and feels like someone standing on my chest at times.

I imagine eventually people will have to start bypassing the waiting on a test and just call an ambulance. Assuming it’s quite serious.

IAMAMORON

Qwerty Dub wrote: »

Frontline worker, Dublin.

First symptoms started Sunday 15th.

15th: Headache and Fatigue (evening only)
16th: Headache (morning)
17th: Small infrequent dry cough
18th: Headache, frequent dry cough mixed with loose cough and low temp

Self isolating on direction of GP since 18th and referred for a test. No contact from anyone since. Very frustrating when you are 800m from Croke Park where a lot of testing is going on.

Thought I was on the mend, but woke up today coughing more than last few days and feels like someone standing on my chest at times.

How did you feel from the 19th to today the 24th?

Have your symptoms abated? Did you get better or worse?

How old are you?

xalot

Late 30's, healthy, Dublin area.

12th - sore throat, headache, chills, metallic taste in mouth like getting a cold. Advised by HSE to self isolate, not suitable for testing.
13th - very tired.
15th - diarrhea and vomiting, really nasty dose
16th - cough
20th - burning chest - referred for test. Told 36-48 hours of a wait.

Since then have been mostly fine, very tired and still have a feeling that I'm getting a cold.