Supporting craft breweries

AhhHere

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121653246#Comment_121653246

I like your thinking.

IrishStuff09

Apologies if this has already been discussed but i'm curious - do the requirements for the deposit return scheme mean that any imported drinks (e.g. cans I might personally import online from France or elsewhere) need to comply with the DRS too? Would Customs deem such items as non-compliant and destroy them? I would hope not..

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121681509#Comment_121681509

Customs used to destroy all drinks; I could see them return to that. Its only the last few years that they ever allowed people to pay the duty.

AhhHere

https://m.independent.ie/business/were-back-and-were-enthusiastic-irish-distillers-sell-craft-beer-business-eight-degrees-brewing-back-to-its-founders/a648846555.html?s=09

the beer revolu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121683672#Comment_121683672

Thats crazy!

AhhHere

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121683921#Comment_121683921

Hopefully they bought it back for less than it sold for. Good news they can still access the distribution network as part of the deal.

From a personal perspective I'm excited to see what they can do at the helm again. Really enjoyed their beers when getting into crafts but haven't returned to them in recent years

Citizen Six

I'd love to see Black Ball metric stout come back!

flended12

Vic Secret was another belter from 8 degrees.

irish_goat

Excellent news. They used to do some great hop forward beers but the brewery had seemed to just wither away in recent years.

the beer revolu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121688281#Comment_121688281

But the drift from their early magnificent heights had happened before they ever sold the brewery.

I'd love to they returned to the quality and innovation of their early days!

Citizen Six

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121688281#Comment_121688281

I could be wrong, but wasn't it mainly used as a donor for stout and IPA barrels for whiskey maturation? IDL probably didn't care much about any other business.

the beer revolu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121688631#Comment_121688631

It seems they were quite good at getting the core range cans into supermarkets in volume.

irish_goat

Core range definitely took a dive prior to the sale but there was usually the odd nice special at least.

Insect Overlord

Their Bret yeast specials were amazing, and the big 8 Ball stout mentioned above. Most of us would fondly remember Amber Ella as well. Shame that got too expensive to brew!

irish_goat

Kinnegar appear to have acquired a nitrogenator and have released a nitro black lager and American red. Can't say I've ever had a nitro lager before, will be keen to try that one.

Beanstalk

Heading to the Taproom on Saturday for the wee event looking forward to it!

Pen Rua

Happy(!) Deposit Return Scheme launch day.

Check your receipts carefully…

https://x.com/sdaly213/status/1752991843741048896?s=46&t=wyBQBLlE_5FkH__21DnApg

the beer revolu

if you read that thread you'll see Suervalu claiming that the the machines will still process that bottle for a refund. n

Not sure how that works but they are adamant.

flended12

Rascals Inchicore 50% off slab a cans

50% off core beer cases!

Yep, we've lost the plot. For all you lucky subscribers out there, we're lashing out a 50% discount on full cases (24 cans) of Happy Days session pale ale, Yankee White IPA, Wunderbar IPA, Jailbreak lager, and Hazy in Love IPA. Absolute madness!

The code to apply at the checkout is SPRINGCANS4ME and it's valid for the webshop only, for orders placed before 17/02/24, and for 24-can cases of the above listed core beers. Go and fill your boots!

10-10-20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121705396#Comment_121705396

Think the website crashed!! 😁

Edit... yep!

Yep!

L1011

Clearing non-logo stock ala Lidl I wonder?

TaurenDruid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121705396#Comment_121705396

Presumably stock without the logo?

Basq

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121705618#Comment_121705618

Shouldn't they be notifying purchasers if that's the case..?

EDIT: Gonna preface this by saying I don't want to get into a Re-turn Scheme squabble.. just curious!

BeerNut

No. The cans don't have the logo so there's no reason purchasers would expect to be able to return them.

Twee.

They can also free sell them for weeks yet...!?

Twee.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121705387#Comment_121705387

Deposits are linked to barcodes, not the logo. If a registered product is scanned the POS will allocate a deposit. The reverse vending machines have the same barcode data, so if said barcode is then scanned by the RVM, it'll issue the refund.

Basq

Working on Megamix Box so presuming a mistake.. can't remember which of the Rascals IPA's I'm fond of.. 😀

BeerNut

Huh! Well 15c x 24 isn't €1.80, so either that's a mistake or some are deposit and some aren't. But I guess if the cans arrive and aren't refundable, you can claim that deposit back from them.

Twee.

Bit of a pain with ecomm, am dealing with this myself at the moment! The main Shopify apps for deposits all bundle the total added deposits as one line item so if you have a mix of deposit and non deposit gear you won't see what's with what. They should put it in the product name if it's added so you can reference the receipt when it comes to recycling time. Obviously won't be a long term problem, just until old stock is shifted.

BeerNut

But wouldn't the deposit/non-deposit items have different SKU barcodes, so Shopify knows which ones to charge deposit on, same as the machines know which to refund on?

Twee.

Many products are retaining their barcodes and not changing particularly if they are also international barcodes.

ben.schlomo

Was in Limerick yesterday and found Crew Brewing, had their Dunkel Weisse and Brown Ale. Both very enjoyable. Hope they do well down there.

BeerNut

They certainly seem to be going about things in the right way. Great place, great beer, great people. Every city should have something like it.

Bobson Dugnutt

https://thecurrency.news/articles/141276/interim-examiner-appointed-to-six-well-known-pubs-in-dublin-and-galway/

Turns out downgrading your food options and charging 7 quid for your own beer isn’t going to wash with punters.

BeerNut

Nor is brewing an absolutely stellar Baltic porter, unfortunately. Tharapita: get it before the liquidators liquidate it.

Shame. I thought they owned all the Dublin ones

Citizen Six

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121707234#Comment_121707234

Is that a new one? Hard to keep up. They'll survive this though, right?

BeerNut

Yes it is and I have no idea if they will or not.

L1011

These are possibly all leased off the same landlord who owns multiple pubs in Galway and Dublin - but does not operate any Dublin ones.

Two in Dublin don't seem to be included, Beer Temple and Gasworks, which are definitely not leased off him.

So this may be a procedural thing to renegotiate rents. I hope.

ben.schlomo

Surprised by that. Are the Dublin ones quiet? Salt House is always busy. Oslo does well but wouldn't be very busy I'd say. Dew Drop wouldn't be as busy since they took it over.

hynesie08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121707234#Comment_121707234

Ok, fine......

Pen Rua

I had understood these to be “Galway Bay Brewery” bars. I’m guessing they’re linked but separate legal operations? So whilst the pubs are now subject to examinership, the brewery operations are not?

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121708068#Comment_121708068

They're linked but different companies

It isn't even all of the Brú Hospitality (the division of the overall setup that runs the pubs) bars in Dublin - Gasworks and Beer Temple are not under Pizza Eile Limited. I don't know if they are still involved in Urban8 in Kilmainham.

MidlanderMan

The parent company applied for an extension on their accounts in the middle last year so they wouldn't have to publish them for the end of the current tax year, that was a massive red flag.

They also made their head brewer redundant, which is a bizarre move for any company that plans to continue as a functional brewery in the long run.

The company over all is split into about 6 holding companies and a seperate parent company.

Pizza Ella's main debter will be the parent company, they also don't lease most of the pubs listed, they bought most of them over the years, the Oslo was owned by the O'Connell family (co-founder's parents to be exact).

I'd be surprised if GBB existed in it's current form in 18 months time.

I feel bad for any debters, as the parent company being the primary debtor will recieve the bulk of any money raised from the probable liquidation.

ben.schlomo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121709096#Comment_121709096

O'Connell, as in dry lining?

squonk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121709096#Comment_121709096

Exodus a lot over the last while IMHO. I’ve been on here previously complaining about there relatively high prices for the beer. I know the 330ml can the is a whole other debate but I just largely stopped buying the stuff as I felt it represented bad value. I felt they were price gouging which nags since sense of other parts of the business were under pressure. Mind you with different companies involved in the vitality and brewing side it might just be gouging the the sake of gouging anyway. Mind you sobering has to pay for the expansion in recent years. Personally I hope they trim the fat and end up leaner and back to where they were in about 2011 which is when I came across them first. Good beer and two decent pubs in Galway. This started to go downhill with them IMHO in the last few years.

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121705765#Comment_121705765

There bloody well is, I got charged the deposit on them! 😀

Got two 24 can boxes of Wunderbar for half price so even if I write off the deposit it's still a bargain. I expect to get the deposit back though.

Hotblack Desiato

How on earth can a brewer make its head brewer redundant?

As RTE have found out, it's a fake redundancy if you replace the person - you fire a person, but you make a role redundant, and how can a brewer not have a head brewer?

Plenty of nasty tax implications and possibly WRC hearings if they weren't very careful.

Haven't considered buying any GBB core range in a long while, just far too expensive for what it is.

ben.schlomo

I consume far less beer these days than I would have previously (young kids so don't go out often and too tired to start a beer when they've gone to bed usually).

I'd have always frequented the Salt House back in the day but then all their own stuff just got too expensive on draft and the place was full of alternative types with dogs.

Getting rid of Stormy Port years ago still irks. Would never have been a lover of Bay Ale or Full Sail but some of the others like Ostara I'd buy the odd time, or if there was an interesting special. Hopefully they'll slim down the operation and keep one or two of the Galway pubs and just concentrate on decent beer.

flended12

Splurged on blacks brewery latest offer.

96 cans for 139!

https://www.blacksbrewery.com/shop/drs1/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=happy_st_brigids_day&utm_term=2024-02-01