Meeting people.

S.G.M.

A friend of mine wants to meet for a walk tomorrow.
Haven't seen her in a few weeks. We wud be in the fresh air in a quiet area in nature.

Should I still avoid it?
Thanks

rob316

Don't see why not, just a bit of distance at all times. I'm meeting my friend later for the same.

S.G.M.

rob316 wrote:

Don't see why not, just a bit of distance at all times. I'm meeting my friend later for the same.

I get ya, I just wasn't sure cos I don't want to be doing unnecessary stuff to put more strain on healthcare workers.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

S.G.M. wrote: »

A friend of mine wants to meet for a walk tomorrow.
Haven't seen her in a few weeks. We wud be in the fresh air in a quiet area in nature.

Should I still avoid it?
Thanks

The risk would be low.

Not non-existent, but quite low!

Everyone has to make these decisions for themselves really... we don't know enough about this virus yet, to be certain of much really.

You'll probably be fine if you keep a 2 meter distance. (But then what do I know about viruses?)

deathbomber

rob316 wrote: »

Don't see why not, just a bit of distance at all times. I'm meeting my friend later for the same.

the more people that does this, the longer the virus will be present! do you know all the places and contacts your mate has been, this kind of stuff is wha tis wrong, we need to grind it out, quite silly:rolleyes:

Seamai

My workplace shut down yesterday (we're not even working from home). The longer we stay shut, the greater the chance of not reopening but I can't dwell on that now. For me getting out for a walk every day will be vital to keep me sane and get some exercise as I've stopped going to the gym, I'm planning to meet a friend later this afternoon for a walk, that's all it will be, no going back to the house for a coffee, no hugging, not even elbow bumps, we'll keep our distance.

deathbomber

from the consultant doing the AMA - CLEAR AS DAY!!

Social Isolation:

Lets be very clear the best way to avoid catching SARS-CoV2 and avoid passing it on to other is Social Isolation. Social Isolation is far superior to any other strategy but it isn’t always feasible, especially if you’ve got a job which involves public interaction. With that said the safest thing you can do is socially isolate yourself as much as possible.

What does this mean? If you’re retired or otherwise not working at this time then stay at home. Don’t go out unless it is a matter of life and death – you must get food or you will starve or you must get medicines. Even in these cases I would ask why you have to go out? Have it delivered by the shop or pharmacy or have a relative who has to be out and about for work pick it up for you and drop it at your door without coming inside.


Social Distancing:

If you absolutely must go out to the shop then don’t touch others, don’t stand within 1 metre ( preferably two metres ) of them and don’t dally. Don’t lean against counters, don’t use cash, go contactless or if you absolutely must pay in cash let them keep the change or put it in the charity box. Don’t touch staff’s hands to get a few pence back and then put potentially infected money in your pocket contaminating your hands, clothes etc. Get in, do what needs doing and get out. SARS-CoV2 is very infections even with limited contact.

If you are working in a job where you cannot work from home then socially isolate as much as possible from other employees and members of the public. All of the above advice applies.

If you decide to go out for something non-essential then simply don’t. By doing that you risk catching and spreading SARS-CoV2. If you catch it and pass it to two people and they pass it to two others and the doubling rate is 4 days then after 28 days you will be responsible for 128 people having it. Of those 128 people 2 to 3 will die. Was that worth the price? I

deathbomber

Seamai wrote: »

My workplace shut down yesterday (we're not even working from home). The longer we stay shut, the greater the chance of not reopening but I can't dwell on that now. For me getting out for a walk every day will be vital to keep me sane and get some exercise as I've stopped going to the gym, I'm planning to meet a friend later this afternoon for a walk, that's all it will be, no going back to the house for a coffee, no hugging, not even elbow bumps, we'll keep our distance.

IGNORANCE IS BLISS! pathetic really

go on your own if you really must!

Seamai

deathbomber wrote: »

the more people that does this, the longer the virus will be present! do you know all the places and contacts your mate has been, this kind of stuff is wha tis wrong, we need to grind it out, quite silly:rolleyes:

Going to a supermarket poses an infinitely greater risk than walking 2m from someone.
I'm pretty paranoid but the risk of walking with someone doesn't worry me.

deathbomber

Seamai wrote: »

Going to a supermarket poses an infinitely greater risk than walking 2m from someone.
I'm pretty paranoid but the risk of walking with someone doesn't worry me.

more ignorance, what about everybody else, diid you read the feedback and advice from the Consultant. People need to get it together and stop acting like dumb selfish dicks! It's not all about you, take care of yourself but be smart. What you suggest is not smart, it is dumb!

nthclare

Im going to hit an isolated headland this evening and do a bit of fishing, luckily I live rurally and will be driving alone.

Got to get out and about too

Stewball

I'm just back from walking my dog. Went to our regular place in the woods - it's usually deserted during the week. Met lots of people/kids walking in groups not taking any notice of the guidelines.

Will people ever learn?

KiKi III

deathbomber wrote: »

IGNORANCE IS BLISS! pathetic really

go on your own if you really must!

Ummm the HSE advice is that people should go for walks, as long as you keep some distance between you.

So the words “ignorance” and “pathetic” are out of place here.

Cop on and don’t be attacking people who are following government guidelines.

deathbomber

people are just not paying attention and thinking it is not serious. Just give it 2 weeks and these clowns (sorry but it's true) will be probably quaking in their boots. We have a real chaance of suppressing the virus but it is simply not happening, yes there will be still a positive impact but not as much as there should of been. We are therefore heading towards full lockdown and these people are partially to blame! It's not a game, many people will probably die and some young with unknown conditions

SmartinMartin

Nothing wrong with a couple of people going for a walk out in the open, once they're suitably apart. It's face to face conversations and touching that'll spread the virus, not talking to someone 4ft away in a forest ffs.

Seamai

deathbomber wrote: »

more ignorance, what about everybody else, diid you read the feedback and advice from the Consultant. People need to get it together and stop acting like dumb selfish dicks! It's not all about you, take care of yourself but be smart. What you suggest is not smart, it is dumb!

Take yourself somewhere else if you want to pick an argument you're obviously at fever pitch from staying locked up in that cabin of yours.
2m is the guideline and I'm sticking to it.

deathbomber

KiKi III wrote: »

Ummm the HSE advice is that people should go for walks, as long as you keep some distance between you.

So the words “ignorance” and “pathetic” are out of place here.

Cop on and don’t be attacking people who are following government guidelines.

sorry i won't, i have been following the outbreak since early January, we are heading down the Italian route, same thing happened in Italy, people were too laid back about it, meeting friends. We need to leaarn, it is hugely selfish and pathetic. Go out on your own or with your partner (if living and wfh/at home together) but not with mates etc. it is dumb!

rob316

The fear and hysteria really kills any common sense in people. Go for a walk with your mate just both of ye don't touch surfaces or each other. Boards is the wrong place for any sane advice anyway that was your first mistake.

KiKi III

deathbomber wrote: »

people are just not paying attention and thinking it is not serious. Just give it 2 weeks and these clowns (sorry but it's true) will be probably quaking in their boots. We have a real chaance of suppressing the virus but it is simply not happening, yes there will be still a positive impact but not as much as there should of been. We are therefore heading towards full lockdown and these people are partially to blame! It's not a game, many people will probably die and some young with unknown conditions

What do you mean it’s not happening? The HSE guy leading the response said people are cooperating with social distancing to a remarkable degree.

Criticising people who are following guidelines is silly.

People are allowed to go outside, go for walks etc. If you see groups walking close together, it’s likely they already live together.

deathbomber

Seamai wrote: »

Take yourself somewhere else if you want to pick an argument you're obviously at fever pitch from staying locked up in that cabin of yours.
2m is the guideline and I'm sticking to it.

time will tell, what goes around comes around. fool!

deathbomber

rob316 wrote: »

The fear and hysteria really kills any common sense in people. Go for a walk with your mate just both of ye don't touch surfaces or each other. Boards is the wrong place for any sane advice anyway that was your first mistake.

the ama consultant has just given advice of what to do and what not to do, which i posted earlier in the thread! Reality check needed!

deathbomber

KiKi III wrote: »

What do you mean it’s not happening? The HSE guy leading the response said people are cooperating with social distancing to a remarkable degree.

Criticising people who are following guidelines is silly.

People are allowed to go outside, go for walks etc. If you see groups walking close together, it’s likely they already live together.

we need to nail it, yes many are following the advice, many are not, such a speople going for walks with mates etc etc!

_Whimsical_

They mentioned on the news last night that the HSE are concerned that people taking up outdoor activities like walking with friends and not maintaining a social distance. They said just because you are outdoors does not mean that you are safe.

You could go alone and chat on the phone while you both walk if you wanted to be very careful and still have a social element.

KiKi III

deathbomber wrote: »

we need to nail it, yes many are following the advice, many are not, such a speople going for walks with mates etc etc!

Going for a walk with friends outside is allowed under HSE guidelines for social distancing.

What part of that are you struggling with?

deathbomber

KiKi III wrote: »

Going for a walk with friends outside is allowed under HSE guidelines for social distancing.

What part of that are you struggling with?

were allowed but they are now concerned!!!, what do you not understand about it, more so, have you got an ounce of kop on, it is common sense NOT TO

deathbomber

i could say don't come on here to ask a question to seek justification for an action to make yourselves feel better when deep down you know it is not the right thing to do! You are contributing directly or indirectly to people dying in the near future i.e. when other fools like you see you out and about walking with mates then they may follow suit and hence the virus will spread.

KiKi III

deathbomber wrote: »

i could say don't come on here to ask a question to seek justification for an action to make yourselves feel better when deep down you know it is not the right thing to do! You are contributing directly or indirectly to people dying in the near future i.e. when other fools like you see you out and about walking with mates then they may follow suit and hence the virus will spread.

This kind of fearmongering is precisely why the government is advising people to consult HSE and WHO websites and not random WhatsApp groups or internet boards.

Deathbomber, you’ve worked yourself up into a panic that has gone beyond the rational precautions we are all being asked to take.

Maybe you need a break from Boards/ the news. It sounds like a bit of fresh air would do you no harm to be honest.

sleepysue

Now is our chance to slow the spread of this virus. People should only be going out if they have to. Do you have to meet your friend? Is it a matter of life and death? Really people need to cop on and comply with the guidelines. We all need to work together on this. If everyone thought 'sure I will just meet my friend today for a walk' where will be in 2 weeks time. You may be in relatively good health and if you did get the virus you most likely will be fine. But this is not the case for a lot of people. Don't be so selfish and stay at home...please.

deathbomber

KiKi III wrote: »

This kind of fearmongering is precisely why the government is advising people to consult HSE and WHO websites and not random WhatsApp groups or internet boards.

Deathbomber, you’ve worked yourself up into a panic that has gone beyond the rational precautions we are all being asked to take.

Maybe you need a break from Boards/ the news. It sounds like a bit of fresh air would do you no harm to be honest.

no i haven't, i am quite calm, not with stupid actions though. It iis clear as day from a consultant here and many others, do not meet mates. I am not fear mongering, it is reality. Be a good citizen, help the vulnerable, don't be selfish, we are all in the same boat. Go out f you must but only on your own or with your partner who has also been at home/wfh etc. it is quite simple. Lead by example, lead by example, lead by example!

I am telling you now, the Italians done this (meeting mates) and they are getting hammered, don't do it!

CtevenSrowder

deathbomber wrote: »

sorry i won't, i have been following the outbreak since early January, we are heading down the Italian route, same thing happened in Italy, people were too laid back about it, meeting friends. We need to leaarn, it is hugely selfish and pathetic. Go out on your own or with your partner (if living and wfh/at home together) but not with mates etc. it is dumb!

You complain that people aren't following the guidelines even though you don't know them yourself.

KiKi III

deathbomber wrote: »

no i haven't, i am quite calm, not with stupid actions though. It iis clear as day from a consultant here and many others, do not meet mates. I am not fear mongering, it is reality. Be a good citizen, help the vulnerable, don't be selfish, we are all in the same boat. Go out f you must but only on your own or with your partner who has also been at home/wfh etc. it is quite simple. Lead by example, lead by example, lead by example!

I am telling you now, the Italians done this (meeting mates) and they are getting hammered, don't do it!

Cool.

Well you make up your own rules and I’ll follow the HSE guidelines.

deathbomber

CtevenSrowder wrote: »

You complain that people aren't following the guidelines even though you don't know them yourself.

you should listen to the consultants advice, that is the way to go, anti virals will soon be with us, sacrifices need to be made until then, grind it out

KiKi III

On a side note, calling people pathetic over and over again is a poor strategy for winning them over to your point of view.

It doesn’t make you sound like a rational person with advice worth following.

Realt Dearg Sec

deathbomber wrote: »

no i haven't, i am quite calm, not with stupid actions though. It iis clear as day from a consultant here and many others, do not meet mates. I am not fear mongering, it is reality. Be a good citizen, help the vulnerable, don't be selfish, we are all in the same boat. Go out f you must but only on your own or with your partner who has also been at home/wfh etc. it is quite simple. Lead by example, lead by example, lead by example!

I am telling you now, the Italians done this (meeting mates) and they are getting hammered, don't do it!

When you're trying to persuade people to see things from your perspective, do you normally find it effective to repeatedly insult them and call them names?

Probably helps you with your own social isolation to be fair, but my experience is it tends not to have the effect of making people agree with you.

CtevenSrowder

deathbomber wrote: »

you should listen to the consultants advice, that is the way to go, anti virals will soon be with us, sacrifices need to be made until then, grind it out

No. I will listen to the advice of the HSE. The consultant is one person, and we don't know his speciality. You argument is the same as saying "I'm going partying cos this one consultant said it's fine". When the HSE advice changes I will change accordingly.

deathbomber

lol very true but sorry it is quite apparent, we are heading for a longer lockdown because of such actions from others and the thing is deep down most people know it is probably not the right thing to do to meet their mates, reality will soon kick in though. we must be strict and hold out for anti virals or we will be likely in the Italian scenario very soon. Nearly 500 died there yesterday - apologies for the frustration but people need to get it together!

Mr E

Mod: @deathbomber - tone down the aggression please. As long as space between the walkers is maintained, going for walks with others is perfectly fine. He isn't talking about sitting around in confined spaces, elbow to elbow or across a table from each other. Let's be sensible here without the fearmongering.

Beasty

deathbomber wrote: »

time will tell, what goes around comes around. fool!

deathbomber wrote: »

i could say don't come on here to ask a question to seek justification for an action to make yourselves feel better when deep down you know it is not the right thing to do! You are contributing directly or indirectly to people dying in the near future i.e. when other fools like you see you out and about walking with mates then they may follow suit and hence the virus will spread.

Attack the post, not the poster. You have made your points. Others have made theirs. However "right" you may feel does not mean those who disagree should be insulted

deathbomber

CtevenSrowder wrote: »

No. I will listen to the advice of the HSE. The consultant is one person, and we don't know his speciality. You argument is the same as saying "I'm going partying cos this one consultant said it's fine". When the HSE advice changes I will change accordingly.

i see your point but it is incorrect, revisit this thread in 2 weeks time! best of health to everybody here. i wish everybody well and i am not trying to be dramatic but people need to be PROACTIVE!:pac:

deathbomber

Beasty wrote: »

Attack the post, not the poster. You have made your points. Others have made theirs. However "right" you may feel does not mean those who disagree should be insulted

FAIR ENOUGH AND AGREED, OUT OF HERE, REGARDS

garyskeepers

rob316 wrote: »

The fear and hysteria really kills any common sense in people. Go for a walk with your mate just both of ye don't touch surfaces or each other. Boards is the wrong place for any sane advice anyway that was your first mistake.

I agree,, boards is not the place to get proper advice, it IS the place to come if you want a bunch of arrogant ignorant d*cks jumping over everything you say and exercising their right to poke fun and call names.

Personally, I have not been meeting friends, not going for walks with anyone but the wife and kids, and basically staying away from people, including family and co workers.

CtevenSrowder

deathbomber wrote: »

i see your point but it is incorrect, revisit this thread in 2 weeks time! best of health to everybody here. i wish everybody well and i am not trying to be dramatic but people need to be PROACTIVE!:pac:

If you believe the HSE is incorrect that is fair enough. I, however, am willing to put my trust in them.

Realt Dearg Sec

deathbomber wrote: »

lol very true but sorry it is quite apparent, we are heading for a longer lockdown because of such actions from others and the thing is deep down most people know it is probably not the right thing to do to meet their mates, reality will soon kick in though. we must be strict and hold out for anti virals or we will be likely in the Italian scenario very soon. Nearly 500 died there yesterday - apologies for the frustration but people need to get it together!

Most definitely, and I'm very much in the camp that if it's not necessary you shouldn't do it, but when people say we're in it together that has to include everyone showing respect for each other as well. Personally I'm in Texas where everyone is STILL panic buying long after it stopped back home, and yet lots of people aren't taking isolation seriously at all. I think you'll be very glad in the long run to have been in a place like Ireland as opposed to a place like here. A bit of leadership, some community spirit and selflessness, and a sense of proportion all go a long way.

Texans on the other hand take the consumption part super seriously but regard the isolation as scaremongering nonsense, and nobody seems to have a selfless thought in their head, in a place where half these people don't even have health insurance.

Anyway I'm getting off topic! Be good to each other lads!

S.G.M.

garyskeepers wrote:

I agree,, boards is not the place to get proper advice, it IS the place to come if you want a bunch of arrogant ignorant d*cks jumping over everything you say and exercising their right to poke fun and call names.

What is it with this? I read some threads and read the OP and be like 'ok, interesting to see what replies they get' and what follows is a siege of personal attacks cloaked as 'advice'.
You shouldn't sugar coat things but it's not hard to get your point across in a respectful way.

KiKi III

garyskeepers wrote: »

I agree,, boards is not the place to get proper advice, it IS the place to come if you want a bunch of arrogant ignorant d*cks jumping over everything you say and exercising their right to poke fun and call names.

Personally, I have not been meeting friends, not going for walks with anyone but the wife and kids, and basically staying away from people, including family and co workers.

I think your choice is totally understandable, but for people who live alone, days and weeks without any real human interaction will be extremely difficult and take a harsh toll on mental health.

If we go into lockdown, as we might, we'll have to deal with that then, but for now anyone who wants to take a walk with a friend while following sensible precautions should not be made to feel bad for doing so.

lainey_d_123

deathbomber wrote: »

the more people that does this, the longer the virus will be present! do you know all the places and contacts your mate has been, this kind of stuff is wha tis wrong, we need to grind it out, quite silly:rolleyes:

Ah now. I'd be the first to say we should be careful and take this seriously, but mental health issues are very real. If two friends meet up for a walk and some fresh air, keep their distance and then return to their isolated homes, that's probably the lesser of the two evils compared to the mental state someone could be in from spending weeks alone.

deathbomber

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Ah now. I'd be the first to say we should be careful and take this seriously, but mental health issues are very real. If two friends meet up for a walk and some fresh air, keep their distance and then return to their isolated homes, that's probably the lesser of the two evils compared to the mental state someone could be in from spending weeks alone.

i hear you and i hear them, i have said my part and indeed in a disrespectful manner at times, which i apologise for but the fact is we need to come together and follow suit, we need to grind it out, it is going to be real tough, once in a lifetime experience, sadly! Talk to people on the phone if need be.

mean gene

deathbomber wrote: »

no i haven't, i am quite calm, not with stupid actions though. It iis clear as day from a consultant here and many others, do not meet mates. I am not fear mongering, it is reality. Be a good citizen, help the vulnerable, don't be selfish, we are all in the same boat. Go out f you must but only on your own or with your partner who has also been at home/wfh etc. it is quite simple. Lead by example, lead by example, lead by example!

I am telling you now, the Italians done this (meeting mates) and they are getting hammered, don't do it!

they got hammered due to the amount of chinese working there

garyskeepers

KiKi III wrote: »

but for now anyone who wants to take a walk with a friend while following sensible precautions should not be made to feel bad for doing so.

totally true. That is just my choice. But I do think it would be safe enough to go for a walk outdoors with a friend, once distance is maintained and there is no touching. I just chose not to do it, but I totally understand people who do.

However, I had the little girl on a cycle the other day, and around the corner was around 7 or 7 young teenage girls all hanging around with each other. Mad that parents are allowing that

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

mean gene wrote: »

they got hammered due to the amount of chinese working there

No, from what I read they got hammered because nobody was taking the social distancing advice seriously... very much like many of our population!

I can totally understand why many people will struggle badly with some of these guidelines. But we will only have ourselves to blame, if we make excuses and don't follow them! It's a sacrifice, but has to be done!

Suggesting we will be Italy in a few weeks, is not scaremongering... it's very possible!

mohawk

garyskeepers wrote: »

However, I had the little girl on a cycle the other day, and around the corner was around 7 or 7 young teenage girls all hanging around with each other. Mad that parents are allowing that

I live with my son and Fiancé so I have company when going for a walk and will not be meeting friends for walks. For people who are not showing symptoms, observing the hygiene guidelines from HSE and are keeping a social distance from their walking companion they are still following the guidelines.
I definitely think if you meet a friend then make sure it’s only one and your not hanging around chatting afterwards.

As for the teenagers if they don’t cop on we will all be forced to stay indoors and not even get a walk. I would be more sympathetic if they met one friend but a group of them they may as well be at school. If My 10 year old understands he can’t do his normal activities then a teenager should be able to understand it.