COVID-19: Vaccine/antidote and testing procedures Megathread [Mod Warning - Post #1]

JimToken

Is anyone here currently working on an antidote?

I think I know something that might work

Fairy liquid , bleach and the flu vaccine shot

ILoveYourVibes

JimToken wrote: »

Is anyone here currently working on an antidote?

I think I know something that might work

Fairy liquid , bleach and the flu vaccine shot

Im three for three!;)

Good point though ...i would expect someone here to be working on one somewhere. If its as well funded as our world leaders would say.

JimToken

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Im three for three!;)

Good point though ...i would expect someone here to be working on one somewhere. If its as well funded as our world leaders would say.

I meant anyone on boards as a side hobby

ILoveYourVibes

JimToken wrote: »

I meant anyone on boards as a side hobby

You might actually get someone working in a real lab on it if you wait around!

Gael23

What’s the story with Johnson & Johnson, are they back in business?

ILoveYourVibes

anyway i got my flu shot ...will hopefully get the pneumonia vaccine soon ....they wouldn't let me take it on the same day

And whenever the first covid vaccine i get that too.

ILoveYourVibes

Gael23 wrote: »

What’s the story with Johnson & Johnson, are they back in business?

As far as I know as of yesterday STILL on pause. Not releasing details.
Putting this in the hands of such companies ..has its downfalls. They are being so cagey. What type of vaccine is it? 'A NEW VACCINE MAM' *said in a mickey mouse voice*.

They say they hope to restart it soon ..etc etc. They prob will restart after a while.

walshb

What are chances that Xmas week, including day and up to new year will see is at L4/5 restriction?

ILoveYourVibes

I hope we all win the vaccine lottery.

Hmmzis

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

As far as I know as of yesterday STILL on pause. Not releasing details.
Putting this in the hands of such companies ..has its downfalls. They are being so cagey. What type of vaccine is it? 'A NEW VACCINE MAM' *said in a mickey mouse voice*.

They say they hope to restart it soon ..etc etc. They prob will restart after a while.

Here is the full list:
https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/draft-landscape-of-covid-19-candidate-vaccines (pdf download).

ILoveYourVibes

Hmmzis wrote: »

Here is the full list:
https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/draft-landscape-of-covid-19-candidate-vaccines (pdf download).

Now THIS i can believe.

is_that_so

AstraZeneca’s Covid-19 vaccine trial in the US is expected to resume as early as this week after the US food and drug administration (FDA) completed its review of a serious illness.

charlie14

JimToken wrote: »

Is anyone here currently working on an antidote?

I think I know something that might work

Fairy liquid , bleach and the flu vaccine shot

I get the fairy liquid, it would make it easier to swallow the bleach .Assuming the flu shot has to be given at the same time as you are drinking the other two. :rolleyes:

Gael23

Hmmzis wrote: »

Here is the full list:
https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/draft-landscape-of-covid-19-candidate-vaccines (pdf download).

This makes great reading. What makes the AZ candidate so promising is that it’s only one dose

hmmm

is_that_so wrote: »

AstraZeneca’s Covid-19 vaccine trial in the US is expected to resume as early as this week after the US food and drug administration (FDA) completed its review of a serious illness.

This is fantastic news. The FDA have spent nearly a month reviewing this incident, and have looked at similar vaccines from the same Oxford group for any similar events. A really in-depth review of safety.

eastie17

Pfizers is due end of November, over 40K people in the test group.
Only issue with it is that it requires a cold chain supply chain and requires two shots. That makes it more difficult to distribute

FintanMcluskey

Is this the first vaccine ever produced that the majority of the population will take for the benefit of protecting others?

marno21

Has anyone seen a figure for the number of doses of the AZD1222 (Oxford/AstraZeneca) vaccine that they plan to have manufactured before year end?

Looking very optimistic now.

cgc5483

Gael23 wrote: »

This makes great reading. What makes the AZ candidate so promising is that it’s only one dose

I'm not sure about the logic that if it's a single dose it's more promising. Whilst it may mean less doses need to be produced what is more relevant is it's efficacy levels. In any case that main Phase 3 trial is 2 doses.

Stheno

marno21 wrote: »

Has anyone seen a figure for the number of doses of the AZD1222 (Oxford/AstraZeneca) vaccine that they plan to have manufactured before year end?

Looking very optimistic now.

100 million i think

JimToken

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Is this the first vaccine ever produced that the majority of the population will take for the benefit of protecting others?

That's the elephant in the room

Vaccine/antidote uptake and the consequences

Gael23

cgc5483 wrote: »

I'm not sure about the logic that if it's a single dose it's more promising. Whilst it may mean less doses need to be produced what is more relevant is it's efficacy levels. In any case that main Phase 3 trial is 2 doses.

Yes exactly by only needing more doses surely supply goes further and can be distributed faster?

Hmmzis

Stheno wrote: »

100 million i think

That's what Pfizer have been promising, AZ are going higher. Some articles from June are stating 400mln doses by end of year. Since then they've added more capacity, up to 3bn doses yearly is the latest what I'm gathering.

marno21

Gael23 wrote: »

Yes exactly by only needing more doses surely supply goes further and can be distributed faster?

Less issues with non-vaccine supply chain elements too such as glass vials.

timsey tiger

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Is this the first vaccine ever produced that the majority of the population will take for the benefit of protecting others?

Only if you take a short term defeatist view of the vaccine and ignore how covid19 will evolve and mutate in the population if it is allowed to become endemic.

Take the vaccine now eradicate covid 19 in humans and remove the risk that you succum to a mutated version in 30 years time, or at least remove the need for you to take a vaccine to the mutated form in 30 years time or possibly a yearly vaccine as per flu.

Take the vaccine for your future self.

stephenjmcd

Hmmzis wrote: »

That's what Pfizer have been promising, AZ are going higher. Some articles from June are stating 400mln doses by end of year. Since then they've added more capacity, up to 3bn doses yearly is the latest what I'm gathering.

Just to note from my reading tonight Pfizer have the agreement in principle with the EU, final contract talks on going at the moment. Deal signed with J&J recently after initial talks finished end of August. Should expect a final contract soon.

With all contracts EU buying about a billion doses if not more initially, contract options for more. Option to donate to less well off countries also

Gael23

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Just to note from my reading tonight Pfizer have the agreement in principle with the EU, final contract talks on going at the moment. Deal signed with J&J recently after initial talks finished end of August. Should expect a final contract soon.

With all contracts EU buying about a billion doses if not more initially, contract options for more. Option to donate to less well off countries also

Are all these to be delivered in 2021?

Stheno

humberklog wrote: »

Prepped one of my shops for closing today, I'll finish it off tomorrow when I've put the stock from my other shop into safer storage for the foreseen future. On top of that I was to have an exhibition running in the Seamus Ennis Centre Nov/Dec, can't see that happening

I'm very fortunate to have independent (not a large corp.), generous and considerate landlords. Most SMEs don't.

This year these coming 6 weeks were as equally important to a lot of SME retail businesses as xmas itself because money coming in now would go to suppliers in order to take stock in for December. That's as simple as I can make that without getting boring about the current state supply chains.

I don't want to get into a business V. national health debate. There's a Michael O' Leary for every Tony Holohan on here with better formed arguments for and against than I can make at the moment.

But there's one thing that's bothered me for the last few months- this government took their foot off the diesel. Since about July the re-enforcement of the message and the enforcement of the measures of what was to be adhered to and why seemed to dissolve. That's not to take away from personal responsibility- but if a nation is to behave in a novel way for a period of time that requires continuous guidance.

Hopefully the government aren't going to spend the next 6 weeks having farting competitions and staring at numbers on Worldometer but figure out what they can do better at the next lowering of levels to give guidance and maintain adherence of what that level requires.

tldr: I'm gutted, mad as hell and blame the gubberment on all my woes.

So sorry to read this its awful for small businesses

On a side note one of the things the OH and I cherished most when the last restrictions were lifted was a lazy couple of hours in the cafe in Seams Enniskillen if you are talking about the one in Naul

humberklog

***edited as posted in wrong Covid thread ).

humberklog

Stheno wrote: »

So sorry to read this its awful for small businesses

On a side note one of the things the OH and I cherished most when the last restrictions were lifted was a lazy couple of hours in the cafe in Seams Enniskillen if you are talking about the one in Naul

Yeah, The Naul. Was looking forward to that.