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The UK response to Covid-19 [MOD WARNING 1ST POST]

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Dominic Cummings mother Morag is a special needs teacher and behavioural specialist

    Do they not have any of those skills in London?
    Is there anyone under the age of 70 in London with those skills?
    Does the cheif advisor to the PM have the means to locate people with those skills in London?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    Dominic Cummings mother Morag is a special needs teacher and behavioural specialist


    That is nice, what does this have to do with him breaking quarantine when his wife displayed symptoms?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,291 ✭✭✭AllForIt




  • Registered Users Posts: 13,589 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    robinph wrote: »
    Whatever it is that Cummings has on Johnson must be good.

    Was Johnson playing the role of the pigs head at Camerons Bullingdon club incident?

    Would he even need something? Johnson is a charlatan in plain sight. His cabinet is stuffed with lackeys who are alien to policy.

    They have hitched their wagons to Cummings on the back of his Brexit campaign and are scared shítless of releasing the tow.

    Their hope is that all this will blow over but the backlash is widespread so I reckon their hope if forlorn.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 38,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    AllForIt wrote: »
    But its ok now to ignore the rules, isnt it?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭REXER


    AllForIt wrote: »

    Thats fine, they were following their instincts! Nothing to see here.
    (News hound instincts) LOL


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    AllForIt wrote: »

    I'm sure I've seen police enforcing the now non existent rules standing closer than 2m to each other without wearing masks etc. It's part of their job and they accept the risks it brings. They are also outside and not actually next to each other for more than a second or two.

    Now what about "Don't leave home under any circumstances" is it that means you should drive to Durham?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    AllForIt wrote: »


    Stop deflecting. This is the same crap when the deaths were soaring in the UK on this thread, a few posters throwing in posts that is meant to deflect and distract. Either engage with other posters or don't bother posting because this does nothing for this topic.


    In other news, a complaint has now been made in Durham against Cummings.

    Dominic Cummings reported to police as ex-chief constable accuses him of risking lives
    Dominic Cummings was reported to police tonight for an alleged breach of lockdown as an ex-chief constable accused him of ‘selfishly’ ignoring the rules - and risking lives.

    Mike Barton, who retired from the top job with Durham Police last year, warned that in driving almost 260 miles North when his wife was showing signs of infection, Mr Cummings was ignoring vital safety advice.

    His attack came as Robin Lees, 71, reported Cummings for a suspected breach of lockdown.

    The retired teacher believes he spotted him out in Barnard Castle, Co Durham on April 12.

    Now he can get away with it, barely, with driving all that way from London. But if he was found to have visited the town 30 miles away he has no legs to stand on and should be fined for breaking the lockdown guidance. Then Johnson would have wasted all this capital on defending him and it would be untenable if it is found he didn't just stay indoors while being there.

    https://twitter.com/LisaWWilkins/status/1264601641090678784?s=20


    Edit to add: Another member of the sub-group making their feelings known,

    https://twitter.com/robertjwest/status/1264618752848642048?s=20


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,455 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    robinph wrote: »
    Do they not have any of those skills in London?
    Is there anyone under the age of 70 in London with those skills?
    Does the cheif advisor to the PM have the means to locate people with those skills in London?
    His mother is retired and in her seventies....


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,587 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    AllForIt wrote: »

    That's what I thought about the tweeter when I went and looked at his previous tweets. So full of hate and double standards. Says a lot when you have to resort to tweets from wacky far right people like him do deflect from the story.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    Beasty wrote: »
    His mother is retired and in her seventies....


    So she is in the vulnerable group and needed to be shielded and couldn't look after the child as he was exposed to people who had suspected cases of coronavirus.

    You are behind, they didn't go to the parents after they realised the story of them going to his elderly parents who are over 70 is worse than just breaking the lockdown so they went to his sister and his niece who offered their help. So the talk of what his mother did or her skills are irrelevant.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,587 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Be prepared for Round 3 tomorrow:
    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1264620185010438152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1264620185010438152&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.sky.com%2Fstory%2Fminister-faces-questions-after-new-claims-about-cummings-breaking-lockdown-11993673
    Reckon the front pages should start to be released in a couple of hours or so, would imagine that they have something else against Cummings. The fact that the Government don't think it will damage them when they've already shot a bigger hole in a boat that's already leaking water shows you how deluded they are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,995 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    I don't normally copy Rowling tweets due to her stance on Scottish Independence but she is spot on with this series of tweets

    https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1264595014295990278


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,455 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Assuming this is not brought to a "close" beforehand, it will be interesting to see who the Government put in front of the cameras tomorrow, and how they handle the inevitable questions about Cummings (and then Tuesday, with PM questions on Wednesday as well)

    It's going to be a "interesting" few days one way or other


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,995 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,291 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Can you believe that since the briefing some ppl are so enraged they didn't get their way after a couple of days of the media presenting it as a dead cert they would, are running around hysterically saying 'Lockdown is over'. They really need to stop watching Sky News and get a grip.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    Beasty wrote: »
    Assuming this is not brought to a "close" beforehand, it will be interesting to see who the Government put in front of the cameras tomorrow, and how they handle the inevitable questions about Cummings (and then Tuesday, with PM questions on Wednesday as well)

    It's going to be a "interesting" few days one way or other


    Even if he resigns or is fired tomorrow the questions will still be about how people can trust the government when they defended him for so long. They should have fired him today and Johnson taken the questions on it to defuse it so by tomorrow the story is forgotten. But the longer they wait the longer you see the likes of the scientists starting to post their disgust and this is just as damaging.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    devnull wrote: »
    Be prepared for Round 3 tomorrow:
    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1264620185010438152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1264620185010438152&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.sky.com%2Fstory%2Fminister-faces-questions-after-new-claims-about-cummings-breaking-lockdown-11993673
    Reckon the front pages should start to be released in a couple of hours or so, would imagine that they have something else against Cummings. The fact that the Government don't think it will damage them when they've already shot a bigger hole in a boat that's already leaking water shows you how deluded they are.

    There has to be CCTV footage of some sorts. Seriously cannot believe this is the hill Boris is willing to die on. I have grossly underestimated his stupidity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    AllForIt wrote: »
    Can you believe that since the briefing some ppl are so enraged they didn't get their way after a couple of days of the media presenting it as a dead cert they would, are running around hysterically saying 'Lockdown is over'. They really need to stop watching Sky News and get a grip.


    What are you posting about? What people? What way? Can you clarify what you are trying to say or it just looks like some unintelligible rambling, much like Johnson.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,995 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    AllForIt wrote: »
    Can you believe that since the briefing some ppl are so enraged they didn't get their way after a couple of days of the media presenting it as a dead cert they would, are running around hysterically saying 'Lockdown is over'. They really need to stop watching Sky News and get a grip.

    Did you actually answer the previous question about the actions of Cummings?


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    AllForIt wrote: »
    Can you believe that since the briefing some ppl are so enraged they didn't get their way after a couple of days of the media presenting it as a dead cert they would, are running around hysterically saying 'Lockdown is over'. They really need to stop watching Sky News and get a grip.

    Cummings drove 400km and then did it again... He absolutely violated the lockdown, a face you aren't willing to address. I worry that such behaviour will make things worse. This has been the fault of a spineless government. You'll blame it on the media but that's not the reality.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,486 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    AllForIt wrote: »
    Can you believe that since the briefing some ppl are so enraged they didn't get their way after a couple of days of the media presenting it as a dead cert they would, are running around hysterically saying 'Lockdown is over'. They really need to stop watching Sky News and get a grip.

    Lockdown is over. The PM announced it as the press conference today.

    Any father can travel to bring his child to people he thinks can look after them, well he loves them enough.

    Instincts overrule advice and the law.

    You might have missed it.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,455 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    AllForIt wrote: »
    Can you believe that since the briefing some ppl are so enraged they didn't get their way after a couple of days of the media presenting it as a dead cert they would, are running around hysterically saying 'Lockdown is over'. They really need to stop watching Sky News and get a grip.
    Are you telling me I need to get a grip?

    Seriously??

    Clearly we have a couple of posters trying to defend Cummings, and that is their right. However please don't try and claim any high ground on this particular situation. Some of us have been posting throughout this crisis and I think our views remain as valid as anyone else's, but here it's a case of "sheer weight of numbers" on both sides of the Irish Sea that can see as clear as day the absurdity of the position adopted by Cummings and his side-kick


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,995 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,335 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I'm flabbergasted that Johnson has wasted so much political capital on Cummings. He's not even that popular with the Conservative party as far as I can tell. This is one of those issues that unites the entire population and it won't be forgotten about simply because the lockdown is a daily imposition that impacts everyone.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,455 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    There has to be CCTV footage of some sorts. Seriously cannot believe this is the hill Boris is willing to die on. I have grossly underestimated his stupidity.

    I'm sure if Dominic allowed his provider to release his mobile phone records he could clear this all up....


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,291 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    This is gas craic altogether. I think what the last few days show is the Civil Service, journos, celebrity pundits, loosers i.e socialist's and remainers, have an opinion of themselves so elevated that when they are denied they loose the rag altogether. And their jobs as well some of them.

    https://twitter.com/przemekg18/status/1264617671125020673


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,995 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 38,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Cummings drove 400km and then did it again... He absolutely violated the lockdown, a face you aren't willing to address. I worry that such behaviour will make things worse. This has been the fault of a spineless government. You'll blame it on the media but that's not the reality.
    For reference, it was ~400km each way!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 379 ✭✭Mike3287


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    There has to be CCTV footage of some sorts. Seriously cannot believe this is the hill Boris is willing to die on. I have grossly underestimated his stupidity.

    True

    Press will ruin him now

    What's the story with these old blokes and newborns/young kids in Domning Street?

    Is he on his 2nd or 3rd wife like Boris

    Cummings looks like young kids grandad


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