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Coronovirus - Gamsat MARCH 2020
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Hopeful GEM wrote: »No news yet
Why do you think you won't be able to get in?
I'm applying as a non-mature student. As I suspected they announced that they're using predicted grading for leaving certs - might result in grade inflation, but who knows. Thought I'd try the GAMSAT as everything seems to be on hold.0 -
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They said they'll be ready on our CAO about the same time as the results for the May sitting of GAMSAT when I emailed them about itDoes anyone know if the CAO email us/acknowledge receipt of our GAMSAT results in any way? I entered my CAO number on my ACER account but I can't see anything about it on my CAO account. 0 -
Hopeful GEM wrote: »They said they'll be ready on our CAO about the same time as the results for the May sitting of GAMSAT when I emailed them about it
Thanks Hopeful GEM0 -
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Does anyone know if the CAO email us/acknowledge receipt of our GAMSAT results in any way? I entered my CAO number on my ACER account but I can't see anything about it on my CAO account.
Yes they confirm by email when the results are available to view in your CAO application. They then give you a chance to tell them if the result showing isn't your highest score (see below).
For those applying this year, just watch your email and check your application occasionally. They do have procedures in place to correct issues even if your score isn't your highest (didn't hear of this happening to anyone though) or if there is an issue with your application (ie they deem you not eligible the week before the offers are out - they will tell you what to do to correct it - sometimes people don't send totally correct documents). Given the timelines are a little shorter this year I would guess, I have no doubt they'll give you time to correct things but I'd also advise checking every now and again.
Having learned from my application, basically the CAO handles just the applications and organisation of scores, etc. So the CAO don't actually play any part in validating your application other than collating all paperwork and scores. But you do need to make sure you double check they received your score and it is your highest. You will see your score in your application
Sometime in July the university admissions staff go to the CAO office to inspect all the applications to determine eligibility. The applications need to be complete before this happens so the CAO GAMSAT results are uploaded and the email is sent to applications well before the admissions officers go in to inspect.
Once the admissions officers are finished inspecting all applications, you get notified by email from the CAO to say whether you are eligible/not eligible. If not eligible, it tells you why (e.g. you didn't sent an official transcript) and gives you a week or so to "appeal" and forward the correct paperwork.
If you are not eligible, I wouldn't automatically panic (unless you didn't actually get a 2.1 on your first level 8 degree) because they do this to a lot of people it seems.
Personally, I had to send some additional paperwork. The reason I was deemed ineligible was unclear to me on the email but *important* the CAO can't tell you why or what you need to do to correct it - you need to contact the admissions office of each university if you have questions. (This point will be helpful when you are trying to call the CAO endlessly and they don't answer :P) This email also got released at 4:45pm on a Friday - I did't sleep all weekend. FUN. (The admissions offices did offer some apology for the timing at least
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They confirmed the appeal result a few days before the actual offers are out - it is a torturous wait but once you hit all the criteria (2.1 or higher is your first level 8 degree) you should be totally fine with the appeals process. Again a lot of people get deemed ineligible for varying weird reasons and it all ends up fine. Again I freaked out and need not have lost like 4 years of my life to stress that week so don't do what I did.
Hope this helps. Good luck everyone.
Dear Applicant,
This is an automated e-mail generated by the e-mail address provided in your CAO application.
Your GAMSAT results are available to view on our website www.cao.ie under 'My Application'.
If you find that we have no GAMSAT score recorded for you or if your previous GAMSAT score is higher, a copy of such results should be forwarded to CAO.
If they are incorrect or you have a better result, a copy of such results should be forwarded to CAO.
These should be posted by 15 June showing your CAO Application Number, GAMSAT Candidate Number, and Section results.0 -
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Yes they confirm by email when the results are available to view in your CAO application. They then give you a chance to tell them if the result showing isn't your highest score (see below).
For those applying this year, just watch your email and check your application occasionally. They do have procedures in place to correct issues even if your score isn't your highest (didn't hear of this happening to anyone though) or if there is an issue with your application (ie they deem you not eligible the week before the offers are out - they will tell you what to do to correct it - sometimes people don't send totally correct documents). Given the timelines are a little shorter this year I would guess, I have no doubt they'll give you time to correct things but I'd also advise checking every now and again.
Having learned from my application, basically the CAO handles just the applications and organisation of scores, etc. So the CAO don't actually play any part in validating your application other than collating all paperwork and scores. But you do need to make sure you double check they received your score and it is your highest. You will see your score in your application
Sometime in July the university admissions staff go to the CAO office to inspect all the applications to determine eligibility. The applications need to be complete before this happens so the CAO GAMSAT results are uploaded and the email is sent to applications well before the admissions officers go in to inspect.
Once the admissions officers are finished inspecting all applications, you get notified by email from the CAO to say whether you are eligible/not eligible. If not eligible, it tells you why (e.g. you didn't sent an official transcript) and gives you a week or so to "appeal" and forward the correct paperwork.
If you are not eligible, I wouldn't automatically panic (unless you didn't actually get a 2.1 on your first level 8 degree) because they do this to a lot of people it seems.
Personally, I had to send some additional paperwork. The reason I was deemed ineligible was unclear to me on the email but *important* the CAO can't tell you why or what you need to do to correct it - you need to contact the admissions office of each university if you have questions. (This point will be helpful when you are trying to call the CAO endlessly and they don't answer :P) This email also got released at 4:45pm on a Friday - I did't sleep all weekend. FUN. (The admissions offices did offer some apology for the timing at least)
They confirmed the appeal result a few days before the actual offers are out - it is a torturous wait but once you hit all the criteria (2.1 or higher is your first level 8 degree) you should be totally fine with the appeals process. Again a lot of people get deemed ineligible for varying weird reasons and it all ends up fine. Again I freaked out and need not have lost like 4 years of my life to stress that week so don't do what I did.
Hope this helps. Good luck everyone.
Dear Applicant,
This is an automated e-mail generated by the e-mail address provided in your CAO application.
Your GAMSAT results are available to view on our website www.cao.ie under 'My Application'.
If you find that we have no GAMSAT score recorded for you or if your previous GAMSAT score is higher, a copy of such results should be forwarded to CAO.
If they are incorrect or you have a better result, a copy of such results should be forwarded to CAO.
These should be posted by 15 June showing your CAO Application Number, GAMSAT Candidate Number, and Section results.
I had the same situation...had to appeal and only got confirmation that my appeal was successful one day before offers came out. I believe it was the 31sr of July!
To avoid being deemed ineligible, make triple sure your transcripts are official and complete.0 -
I contacted the UL branch about the loan. Essentially you must have a guarantor, who must live in Ireland. Unfortunately this rules me out. So I have a 64 on GAMSAT, and cannot afford to study in Ireland. The financial barrier towards accessing GEM courses are ridiculous - especially since they have literally calling doctors back from overseas to cope with the covid crisis. I thought the point of these courses was to broaden access.
Avalon68 I feel your pain!! I applied 1st in 2017 and got UL.. Didn't take up the place as my first preference was Dublin for accommodation with family and other reasons. Reapplied in 2018 but got UL again so I accepted.. This time around I applied for the grad med loan but got rejected, even with a guarantor because I had been on the credit bureau because of a mortgage from 2007 (which is on track now).. I started but had to leave as financial pressure was too much of a strain. Have reapplied again! and hoping Dublin will work out this time but still have to try and get loan over the line. I went back to work for the past two years to save but my word they don't make it easy in this country.. Qatari students who come here have their fees paid as long as they commit to working for 10years back in Qatar after graduating (as far as I'm aware) In the Scot Gem programme if you commit to the NHS Scotland for a few years after graduation you will have a lot of your fees covered.. I mean we need Drs, a lot of them.. Yet half our graduates feel pressure to leave for foreign shores to better conditions and sometimes better pay after their intern year..the lack of incentives to work in the HSE and stay in it after graduating is a pity not to mention the lack of financial support opportunities to graduate students who are often already dealing with other pressures. Its tipping a little too close to the American model of 3rd level Ed. Will you take a place abroad or what are you thinking? Hope it works out for you. 0 -
Avalon68 I feel your pain!! I applied 1st in 2017 and got UL.. Didn't take up the place as my first preference was Dublin for accommodation with family and other reasons. Reapplied in 2018 but got UL again so I accepted.. This time around I applied for the grad med loan but got rejected, even with a guarantor because I had been on the credit bureau because of a mortgage from 2007 (which is on track now).. I started but had to leave as financial pressure was too much of a strain. Have reapplied again! and hoping Dublin will work out this time but still have to try and get loan over the line. I went back to work for the past two years to save but my word they don't make it easy in this country.. Qatari students who come here have their fees paid as long as they commit to working for 10years back in Qatar after graduating (as far as I'm aware) In the Scot Gem programme if you commit to the NHS Scotland for a few years after graduation you will have a lot of your fees covered.. I mean we need Drs, a lot of them.. Yet half our graduates feel pressure to leave for foreign shores to better conditions and sometimes better pay after their intern year..the lack of incentives to work in the HSE and stay in it after graduating is a pity not to mention the lack of financial support opportunities to graduate students who are often already dealing with other pressures. Its tipping a little too close to the American model of 3rd level Ed. Will you take a place abroad or what are you thinking? Hope it works out for you.
It would make a lot of sense to offer some financial supports to med students in return for a guarantee of working here for at least a certain period of time. It makes sense on so many levels, if the government could just find a way to make it work...0 -
Avalon68 I feel your pain!! I applied 1st in 2017 and got UL.. Didn't take up the place as my first preference was Dublin for accommodation with family and other reasons. Reapplied in 2018 but got UL again so I accepted.. This time around I applied for the grad med loan but got rejected, even with a guarantor because I had been on the credit bureau because of a mortgage from 2007 (which is on track now).. I started but had to leave as financial pressure was too much of a strain. Have reapplied again! and hoping Dublin will work out this time but still have to try and get loan over the line. I went back to work for the past two years to save but my word they don't make it easy in this country.. Qatari students who come here have their fees paid as long as they commit to working for 10years back in Qatar after graduating (as far as I'm aware) In the Scot Gem programme if you commit to the NHS Scotland for a few years after graduation you will have a lot of your fees covered.. I mean we need Drs, a lot of them.. Yet half our graduates feel pressure to leave for foreign shores to better conditions and sometimes better pay after their intern year..the lack of incentives to work in the HSE and stay in it after graduating is a pity not to mention the lack of financial support opportunities to graduate students who are often already dealing with other pressures. Its tipping a little too close to the American model of 3rd level Ed. Will you take a place abroad or what are you thinking? Hope it works out for you.
Wow thats quite a journey! It really highlights the ridiculousness of the funding situation. The UK system of loans is better - you pay back directly from salary once you earn over a certain level. That completely takes away the worry of what happens if you get sick/take time off etc as you wont have to pay until you are working again. Ireland needs a similar system. Not just for medicine, but all round - I imagine a lot of people do not attend university due to cost - even back when I did my first degree I could never have considered Dublin universities sue to cost of living there. To take up a GEM course in Ireland without a loan you would need about 100k saved to cover fees and living costs. Even with a loan youd probably need another 40-50k to just live. Thats almost impossible without support from a partner/parents/lottery win. I'm not sure about taking up a place in the UK - Ive been away a long time and just want to return home really. I guess I have a few more weeks to decide. Hopefully Dublin works out for you!0 -
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