Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Seamai

amadangomor wrote: »

It is sad but if the virus was deadlier for younger people the consequences for society would be far worse.

Let's hope there will be more sympathy for the elderly when that time comes around for you but chances are there wont.

cnocbui

cnocbui wrote: »

Well no kidding. It's got close to four times the population and something like 8.2% of the residents of Sydney alone have Chinese ancestry, most of them being born there. Not to mention Australia hosts about a million Chinese students in it's universities. Consequently, Australia was well placed to get the virus directly from the source, early on.

Wait. A million chinese nationals go university in Australia. So 4% of the people resident in Australia are students from China?? How many people are in third level education over there?

igCorcaigh

igCorcaigh wrote: »

https://twitter.com/cmyeaton/status/1236631771707592710?s=19

This this this times a million. Simply everybody has to buy in to it. Only way to mitigate the situation IMO.

frillyleaf

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Is there anywhere you can select a country, and see the daily new cases confirmed starting from their first case? Don't see such an option on Worldometer or John Hopkins...

There is a good map that showed timeline but can’t find it. Please post if you do! It’s in the thread somewhere !

dxhound2005

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Does anyone else just not trust the government to act in our best interests?

I want to believe the HSE is doing the right thing...whatever that is...but I dont.

What countries are doing the things you want to see done?

VinLieger

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Does anyone else just not trust the government to act in our best interests?

I want to believe the HSE is doing the right thing...whatever that is...but I dont.

Why would we? Cervical Check, annual trolley crisis, year long waitlists, symphysiotomy, endless maternity hospital and childrens hospital shenanigans

faceman

A good friend of mine lives in one of the hot zones in Italy. He’s been sending me regular updates. He is saying today they people are feeling the pinch of the lockdown with things shutting down but that they’re just getting on with it. He’s been living his life as normal within the scope of the restrictions over the past weeks.

Poor_old_gill

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I am not trained medical staff these people are.


We are in crisis like none the nation has ever faced the HSE management says this is required end of story.


We all only going in circles let's agree that we are not going to agree.

I know we are not going to agree but these are people who work in absolutely sh*t conditions every day and they are being told well these conditions are going to be much worse and you just need to get on with it.

It's crap planning and crap management and to be honest the HSE/Gov need to make assurances that they will stop treating nurses, etc like crap once this is sorted out.

I wouldnt risk my life for any less, i doubt you would either

Mic 1972

State pensions will soon no longer be an issue in Europe

Spook_ie

Spook_ie wrote: »

You still not giving a source?

I don't understand. Italy has 9% more it's population >65. No? What is the point you are trying to make?

Ipso

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This this this times a million. Simply everybody has to buy in to it. Only way to mitigate the situation IMO.

Takes too much responsibility. Easier to blame the government and expect them to do something, what that something is exactly no one can say but it has to be something.

Jim_Hodge

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Is there anywhere you can select a country, and see the daily new cases confirmed starting from their first case? Don't see such an option on Worldometer or John Hopkins...

Click on the country for it's particular charts.

https://virusncov.com/

TimeToShine

Ipso wrote: »

Takes too much responsibility. Easier to blame the government and expect them to do something, what that something is exactly no one can say but it has to be something.

Banning flights from the north of Italy would be a start. Not exactly rocket science

Ipso

dxhound2005 wrote: »

What countries are doing the things you want to see done?

I don’t envy the people having to deal with this. They have to walk a fine line of not being complacent and not spreading panic.

Yurt2

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Italy 5th oldest (in the world): https://www.statista.com/statistics/264727/median-age-of-the-population-in-selected-countries/


Ireland youngest in Europe: https://www.idaireland.com/invest-in-ireland/ireland-demographics

During my aborted academic career, at the start of the semester, I warned undergrads that using Statista as a source would result in a fail. I'm not sure what I would have done if someone tried to cite the IDA website, probably make them sit outside the room.

dxhound2005

TimeToShine wrote: »

Banning flights from the north of Italy would be a start. Not exactly rocket science

Why not all of Italy?

Drumpot

faceman wrote: »

A good friend of mine lives in one of the hot zones in Italy. He’s been sending me regular updates. He is saying today they people are feeling the pinch of the lockdown with things shutting down but that they’re just getting on with it. He’s been living his life as normal within the scope of the restrictions over the past weeks.

What’s the story with food, electricity, water and broadband? I’m guessing at this stage these are not problems but a good message from government on how these will be protected and kept going would give some comfort

stephenjmcd

pjohnson wrote: »

Community spreading.


Who could have seen that coming?

A close contact with an existing case is also community spreading

paleoperson

I notice Washington Post has altered their article headed: "Why you can't 'boost' your immune system to protect from coronavirus" to "No, you probably can't boost your immune system to protect from coronavirus", targeting such items as vitamin c and garlic.

It's pretty ironic that people who write articles like this supposedly to banish ignorance and set people straight usually haven't the slightest ****ing clue about what will help the immune system. Taking vitamin c and garlic will absolutely improve the average person's immune system and put them in a better position to fight it if they get it. It's no bullet proof of course, but for an unknown pathogen there's a high likelihood it will be an incremental improvement. Vitamin C helped with SARS and many others. Whether it's worth the bother is another thing, but it certainly will help.

dwayneshintzy

Deleted User wrote: »

Gonna have to choose soon whether to have a 'Chinese' type solution to the crisis, and suspend individual rights for the greater good or carry on with a western model that doesn't seem to be working.

Well, there can be something in between. Hong Kong and Macau didn't have the type of shutdown as seen in China; individual rights weren't suspended. But public gatherings were stopped, schools were closed, civil servants worked from home, etc.

Ipso

TimeToShine wrote: »

Banning flights from the north of Italy would be a start. Not exactly rocket science

What about Irish people that may be stuck there? Are they to be left in a hot zone, I’m all for mitigating risk but there are grey areas.

Away With The Fairies

This is worse than 9/11

cyclops999

No plans in places for the 2000 part- time/ retained firfighters, if it gets into a station that will bring station off call . It's a specialist job so for arguement sake you lose 20 of the 200 stations nationwide for 14 days frightening to think of the consequences.

Nijmegen

Community spread cases with no known vector means that the actual number of cases is, by definition, higher than confirmed.

Really worrying seeing the Italian health system falling over.

givyjoe

Drumpot wrote: »

I see where this is going

It’s only in China
It’s only in Asia
It’s only in Italy
It’s not really in Ireland
It’s not that many in Ireland
It’s only old people In Ireland
It’s only old and vulnerable people in Ireland
It’s only old, vulnerable and people having ongoing Medical conditions in Ireland
It’s only old, vulnerable, people having ongoing medical conditions and the over extended healthcare workers in Ireland

How did this happen?

It was China’s fault, there was absolutely nothing we could of done.........

It's infuriating to listen to/read. Basically the real life equivalent of this.. https://youtu.be/6EFF3BmxEq0

CIARAN_BOYLE

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I am not trained medical staff these people are.


We are in crisis like none the nation has ever faced the HSE management says this is required end of story.


We all only going in circles let's agree that we are not going to agree.

I see two points here. Annual leave is essential. We see in Italy and China a very high level of cases among medical staff. A part of this is exposure and a part is overwork as they try and deal with the criss.

If a doctor could take a week off in the next month and if that would half the level of cases amoung front line medical staff I would love to give it to them. Can the HSE afford to do this though?

I honestly don't thinks so. If staff take holidays during crisis there won't be enough people on the front line.

blanch152

Downlinz wrote: »

There is near universal support for cancelling the St Patricks Day parades and banning flights from Italy, they aren't divisive issues at all. The only ones opposed are from business interest groups.

It really makes you wonder if this is a democracy at all.

There is near universal stupidity among people claiming to know what the people support.

There is a mob on social media panicking and crying wanting to stop the St. Patrick’s Day parade while they have no issue with their neighbours and friends travelling to Anfield and Old Trafford this weekend and Cheltenham next week.

It is pathetic. If you are afraid of the Parade, stock up on toilet rolls and Brennan’s bread and stay at home under the table.

TimeToShine

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Why not all of Italy?

Start with the low hanging fruit and work your way up, those three flights from Milan should be grounded.

tillyfilly

Ipso wrote: »

What about Irish people that may be stuck there? Are they to be left in a hot zone, I’m all for mitigating risk but there are grey areas.

they are in quarantine now so can't leave anyways?

dxhound2005

Drumpot wrote: »

What’s the story with food, electricity, water and broadband? I’m guessing at this stage these are not problems but a good message from government on how these will be protected and kept going would give some comfort

Any announcement will just cause panic. Better to say nothing, and hope that everyone will be sensible. Especially by not forming queues to get unnecessary stockpiles.