Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

sweetie

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I know, but I said upthread that I think it's the actual concentration/amount of alcohol in the homemade antiviral soup, eg, fill the bottle with 8/10ths alcohol, and 2/10ths liquid soap. Now I am useless at the oul sums, but I think that's what friend meant.

so it's now 30-32% alcohol....

Kermit.de.frog

Italian cases have surged to 374 so far today (up on 270 yesterday). Death toll stands at 12...

blingrhino

Any update on a cure?
I heard that on thursday there would be an annoucement re tests?

solidasarock

blingrhino wrote: »

Any update on a cure?
I heard that on thursday there would be an annoucement re tests?

Dont know where you would here that. That will probably take years.

Cold temperatures may favour its spread, warm weather may mitigate it. Get somewhere hot and stay there. Get out of the air conditioning into the warmth, if this is true.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.22.20025791v1

BanditLuke

Its now over a month since the city of Wuhan was locked down (23rd January) and only now does it look like they maybe (if we can believe the regime in China) are getting a handle on it.

Either way the Chinese must be applauded for the monumental effort they have made to stop the spread of this virus and the sacrifice of the medical community in China which has been very costly in itself.

Hector Savage

blingrhino wrote: »

Any update on a cure?
I heard that on thursday there would be an annoucement re tests?

I read yesterday that Chinese scientists wanted to start testing a vaccine, but that will take months, winter 2021 at the earliest for a vaccine.

MarkY91

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Cold temperatures may favour its spread, warm weather may mitigate it. Get somewhere hot and stay there. Get out of the air conditioning into the warmth, if this is true.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.22.20025791v1

Who wants to sell their tickets to Tenerife to me in the cheap?

solidasarock

solidasarock wrote: »

Dont know where you would here that. That will probably take years.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-clinical-trial-remdesivir-treat-covid-19-begins

IF this proves helpful, we might possibly start to benefit by its use within weeks to months.

one armed dwarf

blingrhino wrote: »

Any update on a cure?
I heard that on thursday there would be an annoucement re tests?

"Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in the US, told reporters: “You’re talking about a year to a year and a half” before any vaccine would be ready for widespread use."

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https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-51628990

charlietheminxx

MarkY91 wrote: »

Who wants to sell their tickets to Tenerife to me in the cheap?

Ha if you're interested, I'll sell you my accommodation from tomorrow to Monday - but you'll need to sort your own flights

timmyntc

Hector Savage wrote: »

I read yesterday that Chinese scientists wanted to start testing a vaccine, but that will take months, winter 2021 at the earliest for a vaccine.

Vaccines need to be tested extensively, like a sh*tload.
Because it's something that would be given to the majority of the population (in order to be effective, herd immunity etc).
So if there was a side effect that they didnt catch - it could have severe consequences across the world.

BanditLuke

BarryD2 wrote: »

Sure, there's a cost / benefit analysis at play. We live on an island and are in a far better position to keep this out than many states. Most people have to enter/ exit by a small number of airports or ferries. We could close these or restrict to absolutely essential travel by permit, allow in containers by permit with strict controls etc. Would have a significant impact on the economy though, what is the cost of that versus the prospect of perhaps a few 10s or 100s of premature deaths?

The government seems to be waiting till the sh*t hits the fan and then they'll throw their hands in the air and say it's too late. Wash your hands and say a few prayers.

Only today Harris was telling us we can't do anything as we are all part of one big happy European family seemingly forgetting we aren't landlocked between France and Germany.

Also is Varadkar gone into hiding?

Titclamp

timmyntc wrote: »

Vaccines need to be tested extensively, like a sh*tload.
Because it's something that would be given to the majority of the population (in order to be effective, herd immunity etc).
So if there was a side effect that they didnt catch - it could have severe consequences across the world.

Vaccines don't have side effects stupid

2ygb4cmqetsjhx

In Germany myself. Got a cold. Probably not corona but staying home just in case.

timmyntc

timmyntc wrote: »

Vaccines need to be tested extensively, like a sh*tload.
Because it's something that would be given to the majority of the population (in order to be effective, herd immunity etc).
So if there was a side effect that they didnt catch - it could have severe consequences across the world.

Well, giving it to loadsa people is by definition extensive testing

BanditLuke

blingrhino wrote: »

Any update on a cure?
I heard that on thursday there would be an annoucement re tests?

It will take a monumental effort to have a vaccine ready before next Winter.

MarkY91

MarkY91 wrote: »

Who wants to sell their tickets to Tenerife to me in the cheap?

Outdoor camping in individual tents is probably the way to go

ChikiChiki

BanditLuke wrote: »

Only today Harris was telling us we can't do anything as we are all part of one big happy European family seemingly forgetting we aren't landlocked between France and Germany.

Also is Varadkar gone into hiding?

He is away sulking but appears on social media every now and again to have a pop at Sinn Fein.

Kermit.de.frog

Latest:

First case in Pakistan.

New case in Helsinki. 2nd in Finland.

First case in Macedonia.

Sigma101

SeaBreezes wrote: »

I keep waiting for a question on re-infection at any of the WHO news reports.
It seems that docs in China are warning it's a very real thing and more dangerous 2nd time. But only heresay, nobodies asking official folk.

The lack of discussion about the potential to get re-infected is conspicuous at this stage. I would imagine if it is the case that one can get re-infected the virus will be far less discriminatory in terms of age and medical condition of fatalities. Maybe those who think we should press ahead and let the virus take its course should reflect on that.

Cork Boy 53

UsBus wrote: »

I was afraid to even mention Liverpool... Need those 4 games to be played out quickly..!

Would make no difference. If the PL,or any other league for that matter , is suspended then all results and league table positions would be null and void.

DrumSteve

Titclamp wrote: »

Vaccines don't have side effects stupid

They can do if they are not tested. See all the crap that went down with the Swine Flu Vaccine.

BanditLuke wrote: »

It will take a monumental effort to have a vaccine ready before next Winter.

There really needs to be a "manhattan project" to fix this.

I know there are competing labs trying to get this up and running; if you get the vaccine for this out; the issue is mass production. I think GSK have the facilities to do it and they are working on something at the moment with Moderna?

MarkY91

charlietheminxx wrote: »

Ha if you're interested, I'll sell you my accommodation from tomorrow to Monday - but you'll need to sort your own flights

Unfortunately flights are still expensive. No drop in price lol

DrumSteve

Sigma101 wrote: »

The lack of discussion about the potential to get re-infected is conspicuous at this stage. I would imagine if it is the case that one can get re-infected the virus will be far less discriminatory in terms of age and medical condition of fatalities. Maybe those who think we should press ahead and let the virus take its course should reflect on that.

I think there is some truth in that and probably why a lot of those doctors died in Asia.

It could also be the case that people were being released before they were fully cured.

fr336

This crap would make you miss Brexit

ceadaoin.

I'm at the dentist right now. I did have second thoughts but then if everything does go tits up for a while when's the next time I'll be able to get it sorted? Right now its weighing up the risks vs the reality that there are no cases where I live. Same in ireland. Live your life as normal for as long as you can while still being prepared, and taking reasonable precautions like handwashing etc and hopefully it will come to nothing. Theres literally nothing else anyone can do

weldoninhio

Hodors Appletart wrote: »

have heard that a confirmation of a patient in beamount is imminent

and a hse helpline is being set up and probably available from tomorrow or friday

There was a school from Rush in Northern Italy from Weds-Sun of last week. Apparently a few are unwell this week, message went out on iSchool app today.

SleetAndSnow

Add pakistan to the list of countries, just declared their first confirmed infection. Person travelled from Iran to Karachi

SeaBreezes

WHO mini course on the COVID19 virus:

https://openwho.org/courses/introduction-to-ncov