Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

ceadaoin.

Hurrache wrote: »

Good point.

That's why it's so hard to get tested without travel or contact history, there is no option to get it done privately right now.

McGiver

Runaways wrote: »

Exactly my experience yesterday. Bounced back and forth between the two with no result.

They’re not dealing with this at all

I’m beginning to think it’s a smokescreen to save the paddy’s week festival and the precious tourist dollars. And I laughed at that suggestion when it’s been made here earlier

Don't think so. Stupidity is always the most simple and realistic explanation.

Hanlon's razor:
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

It's pure stupidity & incompetence like almost any other government organisation in this country. But HSE trumps them all.

McGiver

wakka12 wrote: »

Thats interesting. Wonder why they believe it. I find it hard to believe several thousand cases worldwide in a few days is not spreading freely

FFS you're literally generating unnecessary panic with your posts. Are you doing it intentionally? Yes, it's serious but making people panic isn't OK.

Here's why - global air travel! Hope you get it now. Not a rocket science.

citysights

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I dont think the test itself costs anything for the patient, given that it is provided by the CDC and is in the interests of public health. Treatment however is a different story and would probably run into the thousands depending on insurance coverage.

Yes of course you’re right it’s the treatment that costs. Sad state of affairs for the poor in the US then, surely though with this virus being so serious they could not refuse treatment to poor people receiving a diagnosis or could they?

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1233438301786443779

Yeh see Iran may be lying but also a better indicator as to the true nature of what we are dealing with and why China is terrified and took extraordinary measures so quickly to shut much of it's country off.

These are not the actions against something akin to flu.

fr336

Repoets that latest UK case could be a GP

blade1

fr336 wrote: »

Don't panic don't panic don't panic

The time to panic is when people start saying don't panic.:pac:
It's like telling someone to calm down or chill out.

MrMusician18

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/faxw4q/cbc_canada_dropping_the_ball_empty_streets/

Health Officials in Vancouver say containment measures will actually be relaxed if coronavirus begins to spread widely within the province

That's a very uncaring, hard nosed approach. Dropping containment measures will almost certainly lead to the virus overwhelming it's health system leading to countless needless deaths.

Containment isn't really about stopping the spread completely it's about slowing it so society can cope

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1233438301786443779

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1233438715088973824


Yeh see Iran may be lying but also a better indicator as to the true nature of what we are dealing with and why China is terrified and took extraordinary measures so quickly to shut much of it's country off.

These are not the actions against something akin to flu.

Peatys

Everyone, calm down and chill out.

And whatever you do, DON'T PANIC!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sigma101

Some reports of the virus being identified again in a passenger from the Diamond Princess cruise ship after he had fully recovered in a hospital in Japan and flew home to Isreal. All those who shared the flight home with him to be quarantined.

Peatys

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1233438301786443779

Nothing about that from BBC though?

Edit, as i typed the post..

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1233443539914252289?s=19

ceadaoin.

citysights wrote: »

Yes of course you’re right it’s the treatment that costs. Sad state of affairs for the poor in the US then, surely though with this virus being so serious they could not refuse treatment to poor people receiving a diagnosis or could they?

They dont refuse treatment. They treat people and then bill them afterwards. That's how it works. A person presenting at a hospital is not going to be sent away, in fact it's illegal to refuse emergency treatment because of a lack of insurance.

Also, uninsured people can visit an urgent care facility and see a doctor for about the cost of a doctors visit in ireland. Yes it's bad here but its not as bad as people make out. The majority of people have some form of insurance with Medicaid being provided to the poorest

quokula

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1233438301786443779

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1233438715088973824


Yeh see Iran may be lying but also a better indicator as to the true nature of what we are dealing with and why China is terrified and took extraordinary measures so quickly to shut much of it's country off.

These are not the actions against something akin to flu.

There's not many sources less trustworthy than the Iranian authorities, but Paul Joseph Watson is one of them.

banie01

Hurrache wrote: »

It's called Coronita in some places already.

They really should just called it Kung Flu!

bodhrandude

blanch152 wrote: »

Did you even read that before you posted it.

Zero cases in Ireland = a huge problem in Ireland?????

We live in a world where people have a right to travel and a right to privacy. Within those constraints, we have managed to delay the arrival of coronavirus as long as possible and there is no evidence of it being a "huge problem in Ireland". So what more could and should be done?

Hysterical overreaction and panicking are not necessary, certainly not yet.

Just wait and see, a few weeks like.

fr336

I miss the days when my biggest worry was if my computer could upgrade to Windows 10

DellyBelly

Jenbach110 wrote: »

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2020/02/the-most-dangerous-thing-about-coronavirus-is-the-hysteria/

Snow Garden wrote: »

Back to the Indian so DellyBelly?

Yep. Hope it doesn't hit Thailand 😜

one armed dwarf

So I wonder what the actual infected number is in Iran. With a death toll like that you'd hope it's high to match..

fritzelly

Sigma101 wrote: »

Some reports of the virus being identified again in a passenger from the Diamond Princess cruise ship after he had fully recovered in a hospital in Japan and flew home to Isreal. All those who shared the flight home with him to be quarantined.

Just for translation

Jewish Link Mexico and Israel - Israeli Shimon Dahan was released Thursday from a hospital in Japan, where he was treated for getting the new type of coronavirus on the Diamond Princess cruise.

Upon his arrival in Israel on Friday, and after further preventive tests were carried out, it was confirmed that he tested positive for the virus again, the Israeli Channel 13 news reported .

Dahan returned to Israel on a commercial flight by Turkish Airlines, first from Tokyo to Istanbul, and then to Ben Gurion Airport. Given this, the Ministry of Health urged all passengers who traveled on that flight to immediately enter a home quarantine for 14 days.

Sh!t is getting real

Sigma101

Today's numbers from Italy just published - now 821 infected and 21 dead.
source

coolshannagh28

China threw the kitchen sink at this virus and stock markets which represent smart money are crashing while the HSE assessment is that this is slightly worse than a common cold .

citysights

ceadaoin. wrote: »

They dont refuse treatment. They treat people and then bill them afterwards. That's how it works. A person presenting at a hospital is not going to be sent away, in fact it's illegal to refuse emergency treatment because of a lack of insurance.

Also, uninsured people can visit an urgent care facility and see a doctor for about the cost of a doctors visit in ireland. Yes it's bad here but its not as bad as people make out. The majority of people have some form of insurance with Medicaid being provided to the poorest

Thanks for clarifying good post.

wakka12

https://tg24.sky.it/cronaca/2020/02/28/coronavirus-italia-notizie.html?intcmp=hp-tg24_hero_main-title_null
Italian cases rise to over 820

Fr_Dougal

Sigma101 wrote: »

Today's numbers from Italy just published - now 821 infected and 21 dead.
source

Yeah but it’s not as bad as it seems:

At 5pm there are 821 people suffering from Coronavirus in Italy. In addition there are 46 recovered and 21 deceased. Among the 821 patients, 412 are asymptomatic or with mild symptoms, and are in home isolation. 345 are hospitalized, 64 in intensive care. ". Said the head of civil protection Angelo Borrelli." 4 people have died today, three of whom are over 80 years old and a 77 year old. We still don't know if they died as a consequence of the coronavirus. The higher health institute will tell us, "he added, making it clear that the elderly also had other pathologies. Then he reassured:" "The assistance to the population continues: on Monday the post offices will reopen to pay pensions. In the red areas the life will continue regularly. "

froog

reports coming from Iran are saying death toll is way higher than official figures - 210.

Also reports coming Iran has suspended parliament.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-51669434

scary.

pc7

‘64 in intensive care’

Is that in one area of Italy or spread out, is there anyway Ireland today could put 64 people in ICU?

Kermit.de.frog

one armed dwarf wrote: »

So I wonder what the actual infected number is in Iran. With a death toll like that you'd hope it's high to match..

It's disturbing situation in that part of Iran. What are the chances a minister goes on TV looking unwell and is then diagnosed that evening? Then another official happens to get diagnosed.

They must be seriously under reporting the cases. The official confirmed cases to death ratio looks alarming whatever way they are going about this.

Another concern must be Turkey. Not hearing much from there despite the confirmed transits of coronavirus incumbents through Istanbul.

It's very disconcerting.

freshpopcorn

Doesn't anybody read this thread before they post the link that's being posted several times already!

wadacrack

345 being hospitalized out of 821 in Italy, would be a worry for hospitals here