Law Firm Summer Internships 2020

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any word from beauchamps

smiles_1998

Does anyone here know if the date/time of your interview is an indication of how interested a firm is in you? Like for example is it a disadvantage having an interview at like 5.30/6 compared to earlier in the day or having your second round interview over a week after a group interview?

Elemonator

Coulter97 wrote: »

Does anybody know if it reflects quite badly if you accept an offer, then subsequently turn it down because you got an offer from another firm that you prefer?

A close friend of the family is a senior partner in a firm in Dublin City Centre. When I was interning there this exact situation came up and somebody cancelled on them. They were very annoyed. As far as they are concerned, you have committed to them. Did quite a lot of damage to the person who recommended them too.

Hamerzan Sickles

smiles_1998 wrote: »

Does anyone here know if the date/time of your interview is an indication of how interested a firm is in you? Like for example is it a disadvantage having an interview at like 5.30/6 compared to earlier in the day or having your second round interview over a week after a group interview?

No, I imagine that would be completely arbitrary.

rightytighty

Elemonator wrote: »

A close friend of the family is a senior partner in a firm in Dublin City Centre. When I was interning there this exact situation came up and somebody cancelled on them. They were very annoyed. As far as they are concerned, you have committed to them. Did quite a lot of damage to the person who recommended them too.

People should be getting interviews on merit, not on recommendations. Summer internship stage is rank with nepotism.

Coulter97

rightytighty wrote: »

People should be getting interviews on merit, not on recommendations. Summer internship stage is rank with nepotism.

That's not true at all. I have no legal connections whatsoever and I've received offers from most of the top 5. I didn't even have a lot of experience -- never mind any legal experience -- before I applied, but I have a 1.1 from Trinity.

In fact, the top firms are far more meritocratic than any small or local firms are. The process is far more calculated and they'll eliminate applicants based on grades, etc. At a few of the top 5 they completely remove the name and gender before they start the process of cutting down the numbers. At the end, it's mostly the senior solicitors and partners that take a look and decide who they want to interview.

It's a sophisticated process but they end up with the best 40/50 applicants out of circa~800 or so.

rightytighty

Coulter97 wrote: »

That's not true at all. I have no legal connections whatsoever and I've received offers from most of the top 5. I didn't even have a lot of experience -- never mind any legal experience -- before I applied, but I have a 1.1 from Trinity.

I often see people make this excuse about how the big firms are apparently 'full of nepotism' to justify why they couldn't get offers. It's completely false.

In fact, the top firms are far more meritocratic than any small or local firms are. The process is far more calculated and they'll eliminate applicants based on grades, etc. At a few of the top 5 they completely remove the name and gender before they start the process of cutting down the numbers. At the end, it's mostly the senior solicitors and partners that take a look and decide who they want to interview.

It's a sophisticated process but they end up with the best 40/50 applicants out of circa~800 or so.

For the record I got two top 5 training contracts, I’m familiar with the process. The fact some (probably most) places are awarded on merit doesn’t mean there isnt some nepotism going on with respect to others. I’m only speaking from experience and what I’ve been told by people that have directly benefitted from what I’ve described. Congratulations on your internships all the same, you deserve them with those grades.

Coulter97

My bad. I came across as rude.

amusicalfrog

anyone know if there’s much precedent for leaving one of the top 5 internships a week early? dla piper made me an offer but it starts last week of june which overlaps with another internship which i’ve been offered but haven’t accepted yet

smiles_1998

amusicalfrog wrote: »

anyone know if there’s much precedent for leaving one of the top 5 internships a week early? dla piper made me an offer but it starts last week of june which overlaps with another internship which i’ve been offered but haven’t accepted yet

A girl I did a top 5 internship with last year left ours a week early to do a London internship so it does happen!

amusicalfrog

smiles_1998 wrote: »

A girl I did a top 5 internship with last year left ours a week early to do a London internship so it does happen!

if this was mccanns i think i'm friends with that person lol

Coulter97

Has any firms gotten back about internships being cancelled/postponed due to coronavirus?

amusicalfrog

Coulter97 wrote: »

Has any firms gotten back about internships being cancelled/postponed due to coronavirus?

No but at this rate I'm not sure I want to head to London as early as June for DLA Piper

Whether or not it does have an impact probably depends entirely on how the next 2-3 months play out, I'd say even they haven't a clue

Coulter97

amusicalfrog wrote: »

No but at this rate I'm not sure I want to head to London as early as June for DLA Piper

Whether or not it does have an impact probably depends entirely on how the next 2-3 months play out, I'd say even they haven't a clue

Will be devastated if they end up cancelling it. worked too hard for this

we're also heading into a global recession - that's going to hit the firms. expect reduced number of TC's and greater competition I'd imagine.

amusicalfrog

Coulter97 wrote: »

Will be devastated if they end up cancelling it. worked too hard for this

we're also heading into a global recession - that's going to hit the firms. expect reduced number of TC's and greater competition I'd imagine.

I’ve heard tell that some firms (example i saw was McCanns, where i quite inconveniently have a TC) rescinded offers made pre-crash when it all went down in 2008, will be interesting to see if anything like that happens now

Coulter97

amusicalfrog wrote: »

I’ve heard tell that some firms (example i saw was McCanns, where i quite inconveniently have a TC) rescinded offers made pre-crash when it all went down in 2008, will be interesting to see if anything like that happens now

Terrifying more like. What a nightmare. Although to be fair the general expectation is that the global economy will rebound quickly from COVID recession.

amusicalfrog

cox offers out

Lawstudent2020

Are they calling?

amusicalfrog

Lawstudent2020 wrote: »

Are they calling?

I got an email

Lawstudent2020

Was it general or specific can I ask?

amusicalfrog

Lawstudent2020 wrote: »

Was it general or specific can I ask?

Mine was definitely specific to me

smiles_1998

Just wondering have many people not heard anything one way or another from AC yet? My friend got a PFO earlier but I haven’t heard anything one way or another?

amusicalfrog

smiles_1998 wrote: »

Just wondering have many people not heard anything one way or another from AC yet? My friend got a PFO earlier but I haven’t heard anything one way or another?

one of my friends is the same so maybe they haven’t announced yet

Law97

I haven't heard anything from AC either way

Lawstudent2020

AC called with my offer this morning

lawgrad15

Did anybody hear anything from RDJ yet?

biglawhead420

Apparently some firms are emailing about potential cancellations? is this true?

Coulter97

biglawhead420 wrote: »

Apparently some firms are emailing about potential cancellations? is this true?

Which ones? Seems a bit early for that

smiles_1998

biglawhead420 wrote: »

Apparently some firms are emailing about potential cancellations? is this true?

I’ve also heard this- bit of a questionable source but apparently a friend of a friend received an email from one of the big 6 saying they may rescind some offers

biglawhead420

yeah that's what i had heard as well.