Twitter ‘storm’ creates news #45633 - Colm o rourke in hot water

carq

In the latest created news story from twitter, colm o rourke is now a ‘homophobe’ for saying the below





If a person isn't going to have the ability to go for a ball and take a chance on hitting somebody, then we'll have nothing in the game. It will be a namby-pamby pansy-boy game and I think none of us want that," he said.


Getting a bit tired of lazy journalists grabbing 2 tweets and creating the news instead or reporting it.

Jim Root

it's a silly phrase to be using on TV in this day and age, twitter virtue signaler twats aside

perrito caliente

I don't understand. Why does he dismiss the feelings of gays? What gives him the right??

Feisar

perrito caliente wrote: »

I don't understand. Why does he dismiss the feelings of gays? What gives him the right??

Where does he do that?

He’s from a different era so probably doesn’t even realise what he’s saying. Couldn’t see him meaning offence and I’d say he won’t say it again.

That said, the way RTE are now and after Brolly, he’ll be gone. We are ruled by the outraged masses these days.

Dyr

I knew the moment he said it there's be outraged whingers reaching for their smelling salts on twitter.

Buncha big girls blouses.

jimgoose

perrito caliente wrote: »

I don't understand. Why does he dismiss the feelings of gays? What gives him the right??

"Namby-pamby pansy boy" has nothing to do with gays, it's just a figure of speech for cosseted, effeminate, ineffectual gameplay. Ya big Jessie!

elefant

I honestly didn't even know the term had homophobic connotations. I thought it was just used for slagging someone acting delicate or soft.

ReginaldSmythV

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

He’s from a different era so probably doesn’t even realise what he’s saying.

To be fair, I'm getting the feeling that anyone over 30 is from a different era these days. The world has become far too pc and full of people just seeking to be offended especially with regards to remarks not even directed at them.

Honestly, I don't have a lot of patience for the "sensitive" era we're all supposed to accept. Bugger that. Tip toeing around for fear someone might be offended.. or rather pretend to be offended just so they can virtue signal.

elefant

elefant wrote: »

I honestly didn't even know the term had homophobic connotations. I thought it was just used for slagging someone acting delicate or soft.

I’d say that’s exactly what he was thinking too.

super_furry

Honestly didn’t know that it was considered homophobic, mostly because I haven’t heard anyone called a pansy since the late 70s.

BPKS

Bambi wrote: »

I knew the moment he said it there's be outraged whingers reaching for their smelling salts on twitter.

Buncha big girls blouses.

Yeah I broke my hole laughing when he said it. You could see Gooch trying his hardest to stay expressionless.

I was waiting for the offended to get offended and hey presto.

enricoh

David Gough the ref outraged over it on Twitter, naturally. God bless Twitter outrage, we'd be lost without it!

Better Than Christ

jimgoose wrote: »

"Namby-pamby pansy boy" has nothing to do with gays, it's just a figure of speech for cosseted, effeminate, ineffectual gameplay. Ya big Jessie!

Pansy - Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a contemptuous term used to refer to a male homosexual.

I'm sure he didn't deliberately set out to say anything homophobic. His comment in its entirety is a good example of toxic masculinity though - the idea that effeminate = inferior. Disappointing attitude from a school principal.

jimgoose

Better Than Christ wrote: »

Pansy - Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a contemptuous term used to refer to a male homosexual.

I'm sure he didn't deliberately set out to say anything homophobic. His comment in its entirety is a good example of toxic masculinity though - the idea that effeminate = inferior. Disappointing attitude from a school principal.

I see you quote one of two slang usages that suits your particular opinion, as one does. And effeminate in this context is inferior on a hurling field. And before you reply with something about ladies GAA, I know all about it, and their gameplay is not effeminate. "Toxic masculinity", in the name a' Jaysis...

tritium

Better Than Christ wrote: »

Pansy - Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a contemptuous term used to refer to a male homosexual.

I'm sure he didn't deliberately set out to say anything homophobic. His comment in its entirety is a good example of toxic masculinity though - the idea that effeminate = inferior. Disappointing attitude from a school principal.

Haha haha

Toxic masculinity?

This is where the internet is in 2020. Make believe concepts used to fan made up outrage. Internet clearly didn’t get the memo that was sent to Gillette when their customer base largely told them to **** off with their systemic man shaming

Seamu$

enricoh wrote: »

David Gough the ref outraged over it on Twitter, naturally. God bless Twitter outrage, we'd be lost without it!

See his tweet on the 20th Jan...things change quickly!

Larbre34

You do you Colm lad, you do you.

Colm Cooper has no business struggling with it as he struts around daily owning his nickname taken from that frontier bit between your turkey's neck and your sheriff's badge.

Better Than Christ

jimgoose wrote: »

I see you quote one of two slang usages that suits your particular opinion, as one does.

You said the term had "nothing to do with gays". I was merely pointing out that you were wrong, whilst also acknowledging that his intent was probably not homophobic.

jimgoose wrote: »

And effeminate in this context is inferior on a hurling field. And before you reply with something about ladies GAA, I know all about it, and their gameplay is not effeminate. "Toxic masculinity", in the name a' Jaysis...

He's an educated man. I'm sure it's possible to refer to sporting inadequacies without using the language of toxic masculinity.

jimgoose

Better Than Christ wrote: »

You said the term had "nothing to do with gays". I was merely pointing out that you were wrong, whilst also acknowledging that his intent was probably not homophobic.



He's an educated man. I'm sure it's possible to refer to sporting inadequacies without using the language of toxic masculinity.

It actually hurts at this stage, reading this sort of scutter.

IAMAMORON

What does Namby Pamby mean?

I know what a pansy is,ffs everyone knows that.

Bob Harris

Better Than Christ wrote: »

Pansy - Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a contemptuous term used to refer to a male homosexual.

I'm sure he didn't deliberately set out to say anything homophobic. His comment in its entirety is a good example of toxic masculinity though - the idea that effeminate = inferior. Disappointing attitude from a school principal.

Toxic masculinity :pac: get up the yard

sydthebeat

Absolutely nothing homophobic in that comment.

Itssoeasy

I doubt he meant it as a homophobic slur. Intent and context seem to have gone the way of the dodo.

The funniest thing about this whole faux offended( a opposed to legitimate offense ) is when a celebrity for example get called something or something is said about them and said celebrity doesn't take offence to it. It's funny to see the terminally offended not be able to grasp the fact that celebrity X isn't offended.

My worry is that because there is a mentality of being permanently offended that the moment of actual offense will be washed out and not picked up and rightly called out.

Winning_Stroke

His Toxic masculinity has me literally shaking rn.

Why couldn't he just restrict his commentary and analysis, to wishing that both teams have a good time? I mean in this day and age do we really need to keep score during a game?

TheValeyard

Just stick to calling folks cnuts and you'll be grand.

Jurgen Klopp

The meaning of pansy has changed from a slur on homosexuals to referring to a weak, soft ****e of a person

The same way idiot and moron were once medical terms for people with intellectual disabilities.

It makes about as much sense as accusing someone of hating on the intellectually challenged by using the word idiot

Better Than Christ

jimgoose wrote: »

It actually hurts at this stage, reading this sort of scutter.

Maybe read a bit more about the concept of toxic masculinity, albeit with a less incurious mindset. A bit of learning might alleviate the pain.

Jurgen Klopp

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I doubt he meant it as a homophobic slur. Intent and context seem to have gone the way of the dodo.

The funniest thing about this whole faux offended( a opposed to legitimate offense ) is when a celebrity for example get called something or something is said about them and said celebrity doesn't take offence to it. It's funny to see the terminally offended not be able to grasp the fact that celebrity X isn't offended.

My worry is that because there is a mentality of being permanently offended that the moment of actual offense will be washed out and not picked up and rightly called out.

Did you see the rage towards the guy that played Elton John in his biopic lately cause he wasn't s gay man? According to the Twitter mob a gay guy can only play a gay character

Twas funny to hear Eltons response to Twitter outrsge "it's all bull****"

jimgoose

Better Than Christ wrote: »

Maybe read a bit more about the concept of toxic masculinity, albeit with a less incurious mindset. A bit of learning might alleviate the pain.

I know exactly what it is. I submit that you, notwithstanding your enthusiasm to virtue-signal, don't!

Better Than Christ

jimgoose wrote: »

I know exactly what it is.

Go on then...

Jurgen Klopp

TheValeyard wrote: »

Just stick to calling folks cnuts and you'll be grand.

Eh excuse me? You are referring to the slang word for vagina in a disparaging way? You obviously have issues with women you toxic misogynist.

This is another example of far we still have to come to overcome toxic masculinity in our society

jimgoose

Better Than Christ wrote: »

Go on then...

Sorry, you don't get to examine me. Just carry one with the Toxic Righteousness.

Muahahaha

elefant wrote: »

I honestly didn't even know the term had homophobic connotations. I thought it was just used for slagging someone acting delicate or soft.

Me neither, never knew it was homophobic till I googled it just there and I doubt Colm oRourke did either. Have always associated it with the flower or someone who is a bit soft. If he loses his job as a pundit over this then the world has gone officially mad. Clearly he should have just called them snowflakes :rolleyes:

Junkyard Tom

Theatrically effeminate men are annoying though.

LineOfBeauty

I'd love to know where some Boardsies work because apparently these workplaces have an awful issue with "virtue-signalling" or "PC culture" they seems to impede these people's freedom of speech on a daily basis. Where I work, or just in general life, I don't think I've ever encountered this problem. You'd swear people are just looking for something to be offended about...like some kind of reverse virtue signalling.

LineOfBeauty

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Theatrically effeminate men are annoying though.

Some people might find theatrically masculine men are annoying too.

Better Than Christ

jimgoose wrote: »

Sorry, you don't get to examine me. Just carry one with the Toxic Righteousness.

...and you carry on with your toxic incuriousness. Sure you're only hurting yourself.

Bio Mech

The term “namby pamby” is actually highly offensive to American ‘Nam veterans who struggled during the war.

Doesn’t matter how he meant it, he needs to be deplored for using an obscure term that someone somewhere might not like. That’s Twitter people. That why I don’t have an account. Cesspit.

jimgoose

Better Than Christ wrote: »

...and you carry on with your toxic incuriousness. Sure you're only hurting yourself.

You're disappearing completely up your own arse now.

Bio Mech

LineOfBeauty wrote: »

Some people might find theatrically masculine men are annoying too.

Some people just find men annoying. I know a few.

Junkyard Tom

LineOfBeauty wrote: »

Some people might find theatrically masculine men are annoying too.

Yeah they're annoying too.

topper75

IAMAMORON wrote: »

What does Namby Pamby mean?

I know what a pansy is,ffs everyone knows that.

Wexford left half forward. Look at him there. Scared to go in under the high ball.

silverharp

surely it would be homophobic to get upset by the comment, basically link effeminacy with being gay? when most people don't now

IAMAMORON

Toxic Masculinity.

The phrase of the week for sure.

Drumpot

This sort of crap is one of the reasons I’m cutting down my online presence which is generally limited to this website as it is (use Facebook really just for work and have never used twitter).

The less you say, the less faux outrage and absolute bullsh*t from stupidly soft people you will have to endure. I get the impression that a lot of people have had either sheltered lives or they’ve learned very bad techniques at dealing with different peoples opinions. I also get the impression that many people are quite parochial in their thinking and lack the capacity for meaningful engagement beyond “you agree with me or I will tell you why you are wrong” .

Everybody is a victim nowadays , you see some people getting more upset sometimes then the people that words have supposedly insulted. And there will always be somebody from a minority taking up the righteous Baton so that online justice can be swiftly bestowed on the wicked tongue of the unclean....

freshpopcorn

I'd say the one's who got offended by it never heard of the guy and the only reason they know about it is because they now follow David Gough on Twitter because he's a gay icon now.

Dyr

Better Than Christ wrote: »

Pansy - Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a contemptuous term used to refer to a male homosexual.

I'm sure he didn't deliberately set out to say anything homophobic. His comment in its entirety is a good example of toxic masculinity though - the idea that effeminate = inferior. Disappointing attitude from a school principal.

Effeminate is inferior in Gaelic Football, its a manly sport.for toxic males.

Timberrrrrrrr

jimgoose wrote: »

Sorry, you don't get to examine me. Just carry one with the Toxic Righteousness.

Oh I'm stealing this for future use :pac:

Better Than Christ

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Theatrically effeminate men are annoying though.

LineOfBeauty wrote: »

Some people might find theatrically masculine men are annoying too.

I wonder if it's the theatrical aspect that's annoying - the perceived affectation, rather than the characteristics themselves. Like when you hear an Irish adult going around with a strange nondescript American accent, despite never having lived in America.

mikecope

Better Than Christ wrote: »

Pansy - Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a contemptuous term used to refer to a male homosexual.

I'm sure he didn't deliberately set out to say anything homophobic. His comment in its entirety is a good example of toxic masculinity though - the idea that effeminate = inferior. Disappointing attitude from a school principal.

That bolded bit is what surprised me. I checked his wiki entry and as you say he's the principal of a secondary school. I wonder would he use that language at assembly and if he did he probably wouldn't be the principal for very long.