2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

Loafing Oaf

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Sleepy Joe was very excited yesterday, you'd almost think he genuinely believes he has a chance.

Not sure about if/when he goes up against the Prez, but he's in to odds on with a lot of bookies for the Dem nomination. I'd imagine if Bloomberg looks like a busted flush after today Biden will emerge as a very strong favourite.

notobtuse

dark crystal wrote: »

Is Tulsi Gabbard still running?

Yeah, but her chances are exactly ZERO, so why even talk about her at this point!

notobtuse

Chris Matthews of MSNBC quit on-air last night. I’m really gonna miss his election coverage in November with the veins popping out of his temple as his head explodes.

Oh, yeah, can’t wait for Super Thursday!

James Brown

Bernie is too lefty for the Democrats. They'll all rally around Biden.
Trump will likely walk that one.
Unless hundreds drop dead from COVID19 due in no small part to Trump's dislike for science and playing to the loony christian lobby.

Boggles

Bowie wrote: »

Trump will likely walk that one.

Fox News Poll last week had Biden by 8 points. *

The average from all the polls is Biden by 5.4 points. *

* polls are about as reliable as a chocolate kettle but still can't be ignored all the same.

notobtuse

Boggles wrote: »

Fox News Poll last week had Biden by 8 points. *

The average from all the polls is Biden by 5.4 points. *

* polls are about as reliable as a chocolate kettle but still can't be ignored all the same.

Dream On!

Boggles

notobtuse wrote: »

Dream On!

Neither a dream nor my polls.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html

notobtuse

Boggles wrote: »

Neither a dream nor my polls.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html

Did 2016 suspect polling now teach anyone anything? In 2016 with two weeks before election day H Clinton was leading Trump nationally by about six points which gave her about an 85% chance of winning the election. The 2016 polls disregarded the shy voters and those who refused to participate in polling. The same is being done again today. And these polling clowns still draw a paycheck?

Boggles

notobtuse wrote: »

Did 2016 suspect polling now teach anyone anything? In 2016 with two weeks before election day H Clinton was leading Trump nationally by about six points which gave her about an 85% chance of winning the election. The 2016 polls disregarded the shy voters and those who refused to participate in polling. The same is being done again today. And these polling clowns still draw a paycheck?

Did you miss this part?

polls are about as reliable as a chocolate kettle but still can't be ignored all the same

Loafing Oaf

Bowie wrote: »

Bernie is too lefty for the Democrats. They'll all rally around Biden.
Trump will likely walk that one.
Unless hundreds drop dead from COVID19 due in no small part to Trump's dislike for science and playing to the loony christian lobby.

If I was Bloomberg I'd be milking the threat of a covid epidemic for all it's worth. He's just the kind of experienced, seemingly unflappable technocrat a lot of people like to see in charge during a 'national emergency'.

Foxtrol

notobtuse wrote: »

Did 2016 suspect polling now teach anyone anything? In 2016 with two weeks before election day H Clinton was leading Trump nationally by about six points which gave her about an 85% chance of winning the election. The 2016 polls disregarded the shy voters and those who refused to participate in polling. The same is being done again today. And these polling clowns still draw a paycheck?

Polling in 2016 wasn't as bad as people make it out to be. Trump won the election by 77,000 votes across a couple of states.

Exit polls show Trump won a large number of late deciding voters and Hillary won the popular vote by 2.1%. Two weeks out is a huge amount of time for change, especially with all the email nonsense that came out during that period.

You can weight polls to adjust them for those who haven't been responding. General consensus was that for 2016 they hadn't weighted education correctly, showing less educated not participant.

notobtuse

Foxtrol wrote: »

Polling in 2016 wasn't as bad as people make it out to be. Trump won the election by 77,000 votes across a couple of states.

Exit polls show Trump won a large number of late deciding voters and Hillary won the popular vote by 2.1%. Two weeks out is a huge amount of time for change, especially with all the email nonsense that came out during that period.

You can weight polls to adjust them for those who haven't been responding. General consensus was that for 2016 they hadn't weighted education correctly, showing less educated not participant.

The polls have been showing Trump losing to all 12,367 democrats who where running this time for president, and all of who dislike or seemingly hate the US. Who believes this? I think the pollsters play to the mainstream media who are in whatever democrat’s camp that is running. The pollsters get the coverage and notoriety that way. I predict Trump will trail in the majority of polls until November, just like before. And it doesn’t matter one iota who the democrat is. Then the pollsters get to come in front of the cameras again after the election, ad nauseum, and explain what went wrong.

Foxtrol

notobtuse wrote: »

The polls have been showing Trump losing to all 12,367 democrats who where running this time for president, and all of who dislike or seemingly hate the US. Who believes this? I think the pollsters play to the mainstream media who are in whatever democrat’s camp that is running. The pollsters get the coverage and notoriety that way. I predict Trump will trail in the majority of polls until November, just like before. And it doesn’t matter one iota who the democrat is. Then the pollsters get to come in front of the cameras again after the election, ad nauseum, and explain what went wrong.

The poll you had issue with two weeks out from the election was right in 2016, Trump lost popular vote.

It will be the same this time because again, barring a complete collapse of the democratic nominee, Trump will lose the popular vote, likely be an even bigger margin.

Aside from his ego, that doesn't matter because it is the electoral college that would hand him another 4 years and those polls are much tighter than the national ones, some showing a path to Trump winning again.

notobtuse

Well, Super Tuesday (not to be confused with Super Thursday) results has made it evident my early prediction for the democrat candidate is toast. If Elizabeth Warren, who finished third in Massachusetts, can’t convince the people of her own state, filled with self-proclaimed hoity-toity intellectuals, that she’s the best candidate how can she convince voters of other states?

So that leaves 2-½ standing? An angry old forgetful guy, an angry old crazy guy, and an angry old little rich guy... all of who think the US is a terrible place to live at the moment. Tulsi Gabbard is probably informing her staff at the moment it’s all over. Warren and Bloomberg should give up the ghost but I think Warren will hold out a little longer and Bloomberg hasn't quite spent his billion dollar slush fund yet. Is Warren holding out for the VP pick from Biden so she can siphon off votes for a time from Sanders? Is Sanders hoping Bloomberg remains arrogant and doesn’t mind pissing away a billion dollars so he can siphon off votes from Biden?

With 40% of the delegates now awarded time is quickly running out for Hilllary Clinton to throw her hat into the ring for any hopes the superdelegates would have a legitimate reason to hand her the nomination in a brokered convention. But I can see why Clinton is dawdling. Does she really want to be know forever as the person who lost to Donald Trump, twice?

Outlaw Pete

alchemist33 wrote: »

I know each of these words in isolation but have no idea what they're meant to mean in combination.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwVrg6UtxXQ

Course if Trump had said this to someone I wouldn't need to post the clip as there would no doubt have been a thread started on it.

Outlaw Pete

dark crystal wrote: »

A Trump supporter going after someone for lying :D

Oh, cause Trump has told 13,712 lies, amirite?

notobtuse

What is it with crazed vegans rushing the stages at Biden and Sanders' rallies?

With the gals that rush Sanders' events thinking going topless gives them a bit more titillating exposure to their causes I might just have to attend a Sanders rally when he comes to the area.

Outlaw Pete

More of Biden's lies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYs5HMky1qY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1j0FS0Z6ho

Gonna be TV gold watching this guy over the coming months.

duploelabs

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

More of Biden's lies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYs5HMky1qY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1j0FS0Z6ho

Gonna be TV gold watching this guy over the coming months.

Projection much?

notobtuse

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwVrg6UtxXQ

Course if Trump had said this to someone I wouldn't need to post the clip as there would no doubt have been a thread started on it.

Can you see the headlines after a Trump and Biden debate? 'Young Guy Abuses Old Guy, Causing Him To Lose Control And Break Down.' I guess 73 is the new 40 and 77 is the new 85.

Harry Palmr

The United States of Ancient Mariners. Warren is the kid at 70 crazy united states of affairs.

notobtuse

Wow, team Biden now includes Samantha Power, Susan Rice, James Comey and John Brennan. So Biden has a cabal of treasonous abusers of justice who set out to covertly spy on a candidate and then take down a duly elected president.

Notice how something isn’t getting any press? It's been announced that the Ukraine has opened an investigation into Joe Biden for creating a quid pro quo in getting the prosecutor fired in exchange for a billion dollars? With Trump it was non-stop front page news for over a year… with Biden barely a mention in the news on page 8 for a day or two.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/ukraine-court-forces-probe-into-biden-role-in-firing-of-prosecutor-viktor-shokin/2020/02/27/92710222-5983-11ea-8efd-0f904bdd8057_story.html

Outlaw Pete

Haha, gas when the liberal left turn on one another over the MSM lying.

They had no problem with such lies when they were about Trump though of course.


https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1235131233283084288

Boggles

Attacks have increased on Biden from The Big Bad Orange Man beat me harder cheer leaders.

It would appear sleepy Joe has awoken.

The Phantom Jipper

I was reading that Biden had sex with a porn star and paid her hush money, all whilst his wife was in hospital recovering from giving birth to his youngest child. There's no way somebody like that could get elected.

Edit: apologies that was actually Trump.

Englo

Boggles wrote: »

Attacks have increased on Biden from The Big Bad Orange Man beat me harder cheer leaders.

It would appear sleepy Joe has awoken.

Yup, I'm still saying Sanders is/was the better candidate myself but the two posts above yours show Trumpists don't seem to agree!

dark crystal

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Oh, cause Trump has told 13,712 lies, amirite?

That could well be a conservative estimate, but even it was only a quarter of that figure, it's pretty bad, amirite? I mean, a lot of them were really really emabrrassingly stupid lies too. Stuff like claiming Obama was a Kenyan or suggesting Ted Cruz's father was involved in the JFK assassination. There's even a Wikipedia page entirely dedicated to his numerous lies - is there another president who holds such a distinction?

You see, the problem with being a Trump supporter, is that he has set the bar so immeasurably low, that any mud you try to sling at anyone else will just be catapulted back at you threefold. It's a pointless pursuit.

You can't support a lying, nepotistic, narcissistic, cheating, crass, climate change denying idiot and then try to denegrate another guy because he said something slightly off colour. It simply doesn't hold water, I'm afraid.

Englo

dark crystal wrote: »

You can't support a lying, nepotistic, narcissistic, cheating, crass, climate change denying idiot and then try to denegrate another guy because he said something slightly off colour. It simply doesn't hold water, I'm afraid.

Again, cult vs. political party.

For example, I'm quite sure Pete would be the type to give out about "violent leftists" while being entirely supportive of (or wilfully trying to ignore) Trump encouraging his supporters to assault non supporters with the promise that he would cover their legal fees, or of his claiming attendees of a neo nazi rally were 'very fine people'.

You can add the above promise to the list of Trumps lies, by the way. Which he tried to cover up with yet another lie that he never said it, despite it being right there on video.

Hande hoche!

Will be fascinating to see the DNC debate this month. Curious as to when Warren will drop out? If she sticks with it much longer will add credence to rumours that she is acting as a spoiler for Bernie.

notobtuse

Oh no! Michael Bloomberg has quit the race after a poor showing on Super Tuesday. He’s spent about a half a billion dollars on his campaign and has gotten 44 delegates. That works out to about $12 million per delegate. I guess he finally figured out is wasn’t such a good bargain.

Warren is reassessing her campaign after a Super Tuesday wipe-out. In other words... the fat lady is singing.

And the DNC just changed the rules so Tulsi Gabbard will no longer be allowed to participate in a DNC debate if she doesn’t drop out.

Biden versus Sanders... a gathering of crazies.