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FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Sorry to be so full of questions but is causation usually the first q or is it random ?

    No it can pop up anywhere really! It is usually on the first half of the paper but it has been near the end too...so not much help there unfortunately

    Every other FE1 exam I have found to be grand but I just find Tort absolutely brutal. Failed it last sitting so really hoping I can get past it this time :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭HappyKitten62


    No it can pop up anywhere really! It is usually on the first half of the paper but it has been near the end too...so not much help there unfortunately

    Every other FE1 exam I have found to be grand but I just find Tort absolutely brutal. Failed it last sitting so really hoping I can get past it this time :(

    Is it brutal because of the amount of topics?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Is it brutal because of the amount of topics?

    Yeah. I did Constitutional this sitting which also has a huge amount of topics but I found it grand to study for. I think I just have a mental block about Tort. In fairness, depending on what comes up it could be a lovely exam!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭EAA123


    What are people cutting for Tort? I was planning on cutting vicarious and animal/fire only but with the virus etc my concentration is gone down the toilet and won't make it through everything.

    Appreciate any gut feelings too

    both them topics you are cutting have both been predicted by city colleges so I wouldn't completely leave them out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 isawitfirst


    EAA123 wrote: »
    both them topics you are cutting have both been predicted by city colleges so I wouldn't completely leave them out

    typical

    So basically we can cut nothing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    EAA123 wrote: »
    both them topics you are cutting have both been predicted by city colleges so I wouldn't completely leave them out

    Any other predictions from city colleges? Although I think with Tort predictions are almost useless because it's so broad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭EAA123


    typical

    So basically we can cut nothing?

    i would cut stuff that was up on the last paper that doesn't make an appearance very often

    but i think the key to passing tort is cover as much as possible because I have sat it before and I always find i fail because my last 2 questions are my worse because i haven't covered enough of the course


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Lawofattracti


    Any other predictions from city colleges? Although I think with Tort predictions are almost useless because it's so broad

    They also predicted a question on Duty of care!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭EAA123


    Any other predictions from city colleges? Although I think with Tort predictions are almost useless because it's so broad

    https://citycolleges.ie/night-before-notes-2020/

    here is a link to their 2020 Night before notes and the man focuses on duty of care as it has not been up in a while

    he also says a few more predictions but still try cover a good amount of the course because as stated they are only predictions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 isawitfirst


    EAA123 wrote: »
    https://citycolleges.ie/night-before-notes-2020/

    here is a link to their 2020 Night before notes and the man focuses on duty of care as it has not been up in a while

    he also says a few more predictions but still try cover a good amount of the course because as stated they are only predictions

    Thanks very much lads! by DoC do ye just mean english v irish historical approached and all that lark?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭EAA123


    also if you know duty of care very well it applies to a lot of other topics in the syllabus such an negligent mistatement, professional negligence etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭EAA123


    Thanks very much lads! by DoC do ye just mean english v irish historical approached and all that lark?

    yep. apparently it usually comes up in the form of an essay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 isawitfirst


    EAA123 wrote: »
    yep. apparently it usually comes up in the form of an essay

    that could actually be quite a nice question tbf!

    Thanks for your help, hope it goes well for you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    Sorry to be so full of questions but is causation usually the first q or is it random ?

    With tort problem questions.... sometimes the examiner puts in the last line of the question exactly what he’s looking for, e.g. advise such a person if they are responsible for the cause of this of such an accident! You’d know that is causation! Really read the last line for hidden tips!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 isawitfirst


    ok I've made a decision. Backtracking on not doing animal and fire and will cover that now.Will leave vicarious liability because I have a mental block on it for some reason. Going to leave defamation too (have notes made and will flick through them before going in but won't spend time learning by heart) and cover everything else.

    Defamation was just too long and bitty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    ok I've made a decision. Backtracking on not doing animal and fire and will cover that now.Will leave vicarious liability because I have a mental block on it for some reason. Going to leave defamation too (have notes made and will flick through them before going in but won't spend time learning by heart) and cover everything else.

    Defamation was just too long and bitty.

    Defamation up last 4 sittings, surely, surely it's due a rest!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    Defamation up last 4 sittings, surely, surely it's due a rest!

    Here’s hoping, I’m not covering it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Here’s hoping, I’m not covering it

    I'm cutting topics left, right and centre at the minute


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭HappyKitten62


    With tort problem questions.... sometimes the examiner puts in the last line of the question exactly what he’s looking for, e.g. advise such a person if they are responsible for the cause of this of such an accident! You’d know that is causation! Really read the last line for hidden tips!

    Yes that’s so helpful I saw that on a few qs! was worried that I didn’t understand but that makes sense that it be causation. At least it isn’t Constitutional where is could literally be any topic lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭20082014


    are people covering res ipsa loquitur? I know its a small topic (I only have one page of notes done), but is it likely to even come up?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 isawitfirst


    Defamation up last 4 sittings, surely, surely it's due a rest!

    If ye hear a screech in the exam hall at 9:31 on monday, it's me opening the paper and seeing defamation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭HappyKitten62


    20082014 wrote: »
    are people covering res ipsa loquitur? I know its a small topic (I only have one page of notes done), but is it likely to even come up?

    I did but it’s honestly a few lines and a few cases in my manual in the negligence chapter there’s no way I could answer an essay on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    Yes that’s so helpful I saw that on a few qs! was worried that I didn’t understand but that makes sense that it be causation. At least it isn’t Constitutional where is could literally be any topic lol

    This was the case before but it wasn’t in the last paper


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭Vegetarian2017


    Im cutting product liability and another haven't decided yet keeping all the sub topics as they mix in with questions.

    Just saw an email come in from law society saying they actively monitoring the advices from hpsc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 isawitfirst


    Im cutting product liability and another haven't decided yet keeping all the sub topics as they mix in with questions.

    Just saw an email come in from law society saying they actively monitoring the advices from hpsc.

    got very nervous when i saw the email, just waiting for the cancellation to come in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    got very nervous when i saw the email, just waiting for the cancellation to come in

    Would have to be some additional government instructions I’d say. I almost wouldn’t mind, but given the severity of thursdays instructions I think it’ll be a few days before they consider upping the ante in a way that would lead to the exam being cancelled.

    Hard to know whether I want the relief of finishing or a better chance at passing haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Would have to be some additional government instructions I’d say. I almost wouldn’t mind, but given the severity of thursdays instructions I think it’ll be a few days before they consider upping the ante in a way that would lead to the exam being cancelled.

    Hard to know whether I want the relief of finishing or a better chance at passing haha

    Take this with a pinch of salt, but someone previously said on here that they were told by the law society that those who sit EU and Tort now can still avail of the summer sitting if they fail. Obviously not ideal, but at least it's an option


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭20082014


    Take this with a pinch of salt, but someone previously said on here that they were told by the law society that those who sit EU and Tort now can still avail of the summer sitting if they fail. Obviously not ideal, but at least it's an option

    Yes thats true, it was confirmed in a reply email from the Law Society. anyone who sits tort on Monday or sat EU on Friday, can do the additional sitting also!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭Vegetarian2017


    I wish I had known that for Friday. It won't be a great attempt Monday for sure!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    I wish I had known that for Friday. It won't be a great attempt Monday for sure!

    You're better off giving it a go now anyway! You never know you could end up passing, and at least there is a bit of a safety net there if not

    I'm definitely feeling a bit under prepared for this one myself but I always say that you know more than you think you do


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