Airport alert as lethal coronavirus on our doorstep

Asitis2019

Bryce Numerous Comedy wrote: »

Remember when Ebola was going to kill us all? Or SARS? Or Swine Flu? Mass hysteria as usual and the media are loving it. Wait until this illness becomes boring and you won't hear anything more about it. Live your life, relax and don't believe the sensationalist nonsense out there..

Except, these diseases did kill many people

Just because you live on an island, don't think it can't happen

Read Robin Cook's 1997 book on Ebola - trust me, you won't sleep

NIMAN

irishrover99 wrote: »

Yeah I wonder if fox will report on the 6600 deaths in the US this flu season. Figures released by the CDC on the 22 January.

Of course not, doesn't fit the narrative.

Same as Ireland's 84 flu deaths this winter.

Feisar

Asitis2019 wrote: »

Except, these diseases did kill many people

Just because you live on an island, don't think it can't happen

Read Robin Cook's 1997 book on Ebola - trust me, you won't sleep

See the posts above and below yours, standard flu is killing way more people.

Cheerful Spring2

If this got out and spread across the world, it be a killer. China admits to 1000 infected, 41 dead.  It not the way to do it, but just for argument- 10,000 got infected in a small town that'll be over 400 death people. In a country like Ireland that could cause thousands of deaths.

People fear China lowballing the number of people dying from this virus, and still unclear if this unnecessary panic and they have under control and Social media overreacting.  

We still have not got a breakdown of the ages of people dying and their medical condition after this virus started spreading in last week to two weeks. 

Lets hope, this not some virus that somehow escaped from one of those Biolabs in Wuhan?

Pretzill

This isn't something you can draw parrallel's with when it comes to any countries flu outbreak - we lose 100's here every year from flu but it mainly kills groups of people who already have depleted immune systems. By the looks of it this strain of Coronavirus could doesn't care of you're formally healthy or not...it doesn't discriminate.

Hopefully it will be contained that is getting harder to do these days

Graces7

Apart from the rampant NIMBY ism here, are old folk suddenly dispensable?

The authorities are 100% right to take all possible precautions. They know what they are doing and why.

ohnonotgmail

Feisar wrote: »

See the posts above and below yours, standard flu is killing way more people.

In absolute terms it is but only because the new virus hasn't spread all around the world the same way flu has. The more intelligent thing to ask is what is the fatality rate of the virus compared to the flu and how contagious is it compared to the flu. If it has a higher fatality rate and/or it is more contagious then we should be worried.

drunkmonkey

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Airport alert as lethal coronavirus on our doorstep, Belfast patient in isolation
Symptoms: Chinese man had travelled from Wuhan, now in isolation in Belfast hospital
Five other patients were being tested for the virus in Scotland
Safety measures stepped up in the Republic as hospitals, GPs and the ambulance service were issued with guidelines


https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/airport-alert-as-lethal-coronavirus-on-our-doorstep-belfast-patient-in-isolation-38891044.html?token=1767156484

No security measures in Dublin Airport. I flew in from Xi'an on Wednesday night arriving on Thursday morning at 10 am. Not one check in Xi'an, Istanbul, or Dublin.

ldy4mxonucwsq6

Asitis2019 wrote: »

Read Robin Cook's 1997 book on Ebola - trust me, you won't sleep

Do you know the title, would be interested in reading but he seems to have a few different ones. Is it Outbreak?

Delta2113

This is going to be a big story - every person passes on to 2.5 people.

The incubation period can vary from one to 14 days, with a typical duration of about 10 days.

This could be an election issue if we start getting cases.

smelly sock

Bryce Numerous Comedy wrote: »

Remember when Ebola was going to kill us all? Or SARS? Or Swine Flu? Mass hysteria as usual and the media are loving it. Wait until this illness becomes boring and you won't hear anything more about it. Live your life, relax and don't believe the sensationalist nonsense out there..

Big pharma generally create the hysteria. HIV and cancer cures and vaccines are available. It doesnt serve their interests though.

smelly sock

Am i correct in saying this will be only an issue for people with compromised immune systems?

For the population of china and the current death rate id assume the common flu etc has killed more over there in the last week.

alchemist33

smelly sock wrote: »

Big pharma generally create the hysteria. HIV and cancer cures and vaccines are available. It doesnt serve their interests though.

If some drug company has a vaccine for cancer, they'd become extremely rich. It doesn't serve their interests to hide it.

Eric Cartman

alchemist33 wrote: »

If some drug company has a vaccine for cancer, they'd become extremely rich. It doesn't serve their interests to hide it.

+1 steve jobs would not have died and some pharma exec would be worth 10 billion quid handy.

smelly sock

alchemist33 wrote: »

If some drug company has a vaccine for cancer, they'd become extremely rich. It doesn't serve their interests to hide it.

Unless theyd make more from treatment.

ILoveYourVibes

Honestly we should put countries in quarantine with a travel ban until its sorted.

NIMAN

Surely being a small island nation with a limited number of entry points it should be (relatively) easy to control people coming in?
Maybe I am being naive?

Duke of Url

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Honestly we should put countries in quarantine with a travel ban until its sorted.

Exactly. Close our borders. Nobody allowed on or off our Island incase either a foreigner or one of our own arrives with it.

NIMAN

NIMAN wrote: »

Surely being a small island nation with a limited number of entry points it should be (relatively) easy to control people coming in?
Maybe I am being naive?

Considering that I, and many other Irish people (I personally know four other Irish people who returned), along with Chinese nationals have already arrived in Ireland from China within the last week or so.... it might be a bit late...

Spring festival is a popular time for Irish people living in China to return home for a holiday.

But I can't imagine it would be too difficult to do... although it might make more sense to actually start screening arrivals..

Hamsterchops

Dealz.ie/ Safety dust mask (filtered) X 2 pack €1.50.

Might buy a few packets and start wearing thrm on the Dart if things get much worse

RebelButtMunch

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Dealz.ie/ Safety dust mask (filtered) X 2 pack €1.50.

Might buy a few packets and start wearing thrm on the Dart if things get much worse

Much worse in China and you're going to wear a mask on the dart?
Or much worse here considering we've no cases?

smelly sock

smelly sock wrote: »

Am i correct in saying this will be only an issue for people with compromised immune systems?

For the population of china and the current death rate id assume the common flu etc has killed more over there in the last week.

This above.

Hamsterchops

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

Much worse in China and you're going to wear a mask on the dart?
Or much worse here considering we've no cases?

No, I meant much worse if it comes over here, in which case I probably won't be alone in wearing one in public areas.

circadian

Hamsterchops wrote: »

No, I meant much worse if it comes over here.

Those face masks will do nothing for you.

RebelButtMunch

Hamsterchops wrote: »

No, I meant much worse if it comes over here, in which case I probably won't be alone in wearing one in public areas.

How can it be much worse here? It's not even existing over here!

Hamsterchops

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

How can it be much worse here? It's not even existing over here!

I know it's a Monday morning so things are slow

If the outbreak gets much worse on a Worldwide basis and comes over here to Ireland (and gets serious), then I might buy a face mask to help me resist inhaling the airborne virus (on the Dart) for example. Millions of people in China & other countries are wearing face masks to try and stop the spread.

Is that any clearer?

Duke of Url

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Millions of people in China & other countries are wearing face masks to try and stop the spread.

Is that any clearer?

Whats the success rate of not catching it when using the mask?

Hamsterchops

I doubt there are stats.

Millions of people in Asia wearing them as a precaution, can they all be misled or wrong?

I'm guessing a paper dust mask would provide some protection. Maybe goggles too?

1641

It is fairly obvious that BigFaceMask are behind this.

VinLieger

Hamsterchops wrote: »

I know it's a Monday morning so things are slow

If the outbreak gets much worse on a Worldwide basis and comes over here to Ireland (and gets serious), then I might buy a face mask to help me resist inhaling the airborne virus (on the Dart) for example. Millions of people in China & other countries are wearing face masks to try and stop the spread.

Is that any clearer?

Add a set of goggles to your list as its just as possible to be infected via your eys as it is your mouth, just wearing a face mask really doesn't reduce infection chance at all.